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[GYBS]

where has this fascination come from about scoring from further than 6 yards out ? ! Does a goal from further out give you anything extra ? Didnt last time i looked . A goal is a goal and means the same if from inside 6 yards or from the halfway line . Its getting ball into the onion bag that matters . First it was kuyt doesnt score enough or create enough , then when people prove he scores a fair amount it changes to he only scores inside 6 yards and when its proved he is only behind gerrard in assists it gets changed too he cant take a man on or dribble - well both lennon and penannet can dribble and take men on but neither created as much as kuyt - isnt it end product that matters , kuyts end product as a right sided player last season was second only to ronaldo in the league , was second only to gerrard in terms of assists was only behind torres and gerrard in terms of goals this season . There is another proof to show how important and how well he has done for us - the facts are undenyable

[Judge]

a goal from the halfway line would be more spectacular

[maguskwt]

well let's look at the cases of Xabi and Dirk according to some people on here...

Xabi creates or is creative but he doesn't score enough goals...

Dirk scores and assists but he's not creative...

Now there's a pattern isn't there? What do these people want? a feckin Diego Maradona or a Roberto Baggio? 

Maybe you are onto something there mate. Perhaps as you say thats the reason we didn't win the league last season?

Where can we find today's Maradona and Baggio though?

[GYBS]

it is judge your right but doesnt mean its worth any more - end of the day its just a goal and gets your the same result as one blasted in from a yard of someones nose . Its all about the end result .

[stmichael]

it makes me laugh when all people do is criticise what he can't do rather than what he can. at the end of the day, he could be a lazy for all i care. in the position that he mostly plays it's about product.

last season he was the joint sixth highest scorer in the premiership and had the sixth highest number of assists aswell.

[bigmick]

it makes me laugh when all people do is criticise what he can't do rather than what he can.

Mike don't get drawn into the argument mate and assume that there has been some slagging off of Kuyt, there hasn't. GYBS said earlier that he was important a player as anybody else in the squad, and he got pulled up on it. Nobody said Kuyt isn't a decent player, nobody said he isn't worth his place in the team, nobody said he didn't have a good season last time around.

It's just when people make utterly daft statements that it kicks off rows. He's a decnt player, he had a good season, and he deserves his place in the team. Lets leave the silliness aside though just for once.

[GYBS]

mick read through the thread and you will see plenty of people slagging him off and changing the angle of attack once he proves one bit wrong . Yes words like sh.t cr.ap inept useless twa.t pathetic embarresment , excuse of a football etc etc have been used by people on here to describe kuyt .

[kazza]

mick read through the thread and you will see plenty of people slagging him off and changing the angle of attack once he proves one bit wrong . Yes words like sh.t cr.ap inept useless twa.t pathetic embarresment , excuse of a football etc etc have been used by people on here to describe kuyt .

Don't forget ugly 

In all seriousness two years ago when Kuyte's father died and he had a poorer season he got slagged off constantly (some football and some personal) even though he never stopped giving it his all by supposed supporters. Some clever poster even suggested we sell him for 5 million (a big loss) without hesitation, the same poster that seemed shocked when we sold Keane (at a lesser loss).

I like these long threads because you see just how full of sh1t some people are.

[GYBS]

In your opinion it is mick but not in mine - only have to look at the winners and the important crucial goals he scored for us throughout the season to show how damn important he was for us . the goal against leige alone was massively important . so yes i do believe he was damn important for us last season , and we wouldnt of been as successful if he didnt play last season .

There's a backtrack there and so there should be. Nobodies denying that he wasn't important/had a good season, but he wasn't AS IMPORTANT AS ANY OTHER PLAYER ON THE PITCH.

You say it's a matter of opinion, it isn't unfortunately, it's a matter of fact. It's like me saying I'm a better goalie than Pepe Reina in my opinion, it renders my contribution meaningless as I've proven myself to be a numptie.

Rafa Benitez believes the 'ugly' work done by Dirk Kuyt is just as important to Liverpool as the goals of Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.

ugly work just as important

I hate to bring up something three pages ago,but i think it's fair.

oh mick just in case you missed it - here is our manager explaining also why he thinks kuyts work is just as important as others .

[account deleted by request]

oh mick just in case you missed it - here is our manager explaining also why he thinks kuyts work is just as important as others .

No mate, someone has stuck a headline up, but no where in any of the quotes does it say Kuyts work is just as important, and if it had ,I would have serious doubts about Rafa's judgement. 

If you actually read it, it says that Kuyt had just scored his first League goal in almost a year (11months) and Rafa is defending Kuyt NOT compairing his importance to Gerrard or Torres....... which would be laughable imho.

[maguskwt]

oh mick just in case you missed it - here is our manager explaining also why he thinks kuyts work is just as important as others .

No mate, someone has stuck a headline up, but no where in any of the quotes does it say Kuyts work is just as important, and if it had ,I would have serious doubts about Rafa's judgement. 

If you actually read it, it says that Kuyt had just scored his first League goal in almost a year (11months) and Rafa is defending Kuyt NOT compairing his importance to Gerrard or Torres....... which would be laughable imho.

Maybe he didn't say it... but he sure is playing him in every match he can...  ... now if you put 2 and 2 together you get one...

[account deleted by request]

well let's look at the cases of Xabi and Dirk according to some people on here...

Xabi creates or is creative but he doesn't score enough goals...

Dirk scores and assists but he's not creative...

Now there's a pattern isn't there? What do these people want? a feckin Diego Maradona or a Roberto Baggio? 

Maybe you are onto something there mate. Perhaps as you say thats the reason we didn't win the league last season?

Where can we find today's Maradona and Baggio though?

I think we have already got them or their nearest equivolent in Gerrard and Torres. Now we just need to strengthen the players around them a little.

[account deleted by request]

oh mick just in case you missed it - here is our manager explaining also why he thinks kuyts work is just as important as others .

No mate, someone has stuck a headline up, but no where in any of the quotes does it say Kuyts work is just as important, and if it had ,I would have serious doubts about Rafa's judgement. 

If you actually read it, it says that Kuyt had just scored his first League goal in almost a year (11months) and Rafa is defending Kuyt NOT compairing his importance to Gerrard or Torres....... which would be laughable imho.

Maybe he didn't say it... but he sure is playing him in every match he can...  ... now if you put 2 and 2 together you get one...

Which is another point against Kuyt, if he really rated him surely he would be giving him the same protection he gives to the players he really rates 

[dawson99]

we're still moaning about Kuyt? Are people seriously sadying he wasn't an asset last season???

[account deleted by request]

we're still moaning about Kuyt? Are people seriously sadying he wasn't an asset last season???

No mate its just that some people could cause an argument in an empty room and GYBS IS ONE OF THEM