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Postby roberto green » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:36 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
DAV wrote:I'm so glad i travelled the length of the country today.
At the least i got to see the Mary Rose, so the day wasn't a total wash out.

Are you still cold , im freezin an i cant get warm, cold down there wasnt it

It was cold up here as well...
:;):

I bet Lucas is nice and snug in bed fast asleep now not a care in the world
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Postby Sir Roger » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:39 pm

roberto green wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
DAV wrote:I'm so glad i travelled the length of the country today.
At the least i got to see the Mary Rose, so the day wasn't a total wash out.

Are you still cold , im freezin an i cant get warm, cold down there wasnt it

It was cold up here as well...
:;):

I bet Lucas is nice and snug in bed fast asleep now not a care in the world

With his rollers in...
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Postby tubby » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:39 pm

I'm sure that's not true mate. It's not all his fault, everyone needs to take blame here especially the big players like Stevie and Torres. Ok he is no Xabi but to be fair after being booed who could blame him if he didn't give a :censored:.
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Postby Sir Roger » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:44 pm

bavlondon wrote:I'm sure that's not true mate. It's not all his fault, everyone needs to take blame here especially the big players like Stevie and Torres. Ok he is no Xabi but to be fair after being booed who could blame him if he didn't give a :censored:.

As Ive said he is actually one of if not the only consistent players weve had this season. He has been no worse than anyone and better than most
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Postby tubby » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:45 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I'm sure that's not true mate. It's not all his fault, everyone needs to take blame here especially the big players like Stevie and Torres. Ok he is no Xabi but to be fair after being booed who could blame him if he didn't give a :censored:.

As Ive said he is actually one of if not the only consistent players weve had this season. He has been no worse than anyone and better than most

Agreed. It's just a shame the rest are not making an effort.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:45 pm

Actualy Lucas was one of our better players today
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Postby roberto green » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:46 pm

bavlondon wrote:I'm sure that's not true mate. It's not all his fault, everyone needs to take blame here especially the big players like Stevie and Torres. Ok he is no Xabi but to be fair after being booed who could blame him if he didn't give a :censored:.

I was only messing mate and I just used Lucas as an example

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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:48 pm

DAV wrote:I'm so glad i travelled the length of the country today.
At the least i got to see the Mary Rose, so the day wasn't a total wash out.

You are lucky.

One ship thats already sunk, and one on its way..

:D  :p

When you come to Old Trafford you can see another one..
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:51 pm

Sir Roger wrote:With his rollers in...
:eyebrow

haha can just picture him with rollers in :D
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Postby roberto green » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:51 pm

POKERJOKERZ wrote:
DAV wrote:I'm so glad i travelled the length of the country today.
At the least i got to see the Mary Rose, so the day wasn't a total wash out.

You are lucky.

One ship thats already sunk, and one on its way..

:D  :p

When you come to Old Trafford you can see another one..

Let me guess the Spanish Armada

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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:51 pm

How come your on here again tonight dont you have a manc home to go to
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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:51 pm

roberto green wrote:
POKERJOKERZ wrote:
DAV wrote:I'm so glad i travelled the length of the country today.
At the least i got to see the Mary Rose, so the day wasn't a total wash out.

You are lucky.

One ship thats already sunk, and one on its way..

:D  :p

When you come to Old Trafford you can see another one..

Let me guess the Spanish Armada

:D

THe way things are going at our end, you dont need to send an armada..

A rubber dinghy would be sufficient.
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Postby Penguins » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:54 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:I don't blame the yanks half as much as others seem to do. They don't kick a ball on the bleedin' pitch, do they ? The same squad (almost) as last season, and we're going backwards...
And a manager who can't see the wood from the trees...
What I'd love most of all is to get a few of the player and the manager, in front of the camera, ask them hard questions, ask them if they have any pride at all in the shirt, ask them if they're ashamed of themselves, and see what they answer with...
I would love to be the one asking the questions....

Even if I am getting tired of Rafa's stubborness that is plain wrong to say.  Almost the same squad and you wonder why we are going backwards?
Like the rest of the league is just stading still?
Every team that is dreaming and has CL ambition invested heavily this summer in City, Spurs, Villa. Stading still and not investing sends out all the wrong signals to the players, to our rivals, every damn party involved. Investing is a sign of ambition and intent more than anything and the day you stand still you will be passed by, simple as.

I still think most players have pride in the shirt but are just not good enough and lack quality. Kuyt can run up and down the field as much as he want but if he can't trap a ball or make a creative forward pass pride matters not, quality does!
Besides Gerrard, Torres, Riena, Masch, Johnson and Benayoun maybe there isn't anyone else I find is of good enough quality and players I would want to build a title winning team around.
And you know what almost all of those players I mentioned have in common?
They cost serious money, something we spend way too rarely and celebrate like no tomorrow if we spend 15 million on a player which is peanuts in todays market for quality players.

I only have an issue with Rafa's blind faith and stubborness to see the ship is sinking not by some injury, red card, but by his favouritism and is unwillingness to change tactics, give players an ear full etc.
His belief that Kuyt and Lucas are the best thing since sliced bread will be his undoing :(
Haaaaaaard work counts for nothing if the skill and quality isn't there.
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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:55 pm

NANNY RED wrote:How come your on here again tonight dont you have a manc home to go to

You wouldnt believe me if I told you that coming in here is less stressful than going into sites like RedCafe..

Apparantly we are still good enough to win the league and we can overcome the small minor problem of having no defense, a midfield thats got the potency of a teletubbie and a strikeforce that the iraqi government would sneer down at.
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Postby tubby » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:55 pm

Ah feck utd have their own problems, which will probably get worse once Scholes and all the rest of the old boys retire. No more big money to spend, 1 billion to pay back....
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