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[bunglemark2]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

[Ciggy]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

The reason he was not on the bench was because he picked up a knock against Wigan, do some people not follow what goes on with our club or what?

[bunglemark2]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

The reason he was not on the bench was because he picked up a knock against Wigan, do some people not follow what goes on with our club or what?

Sorry luv....been looking after two kids all day and didn't see all the game...

[roberto green]

He looked really close to tears today and that knobhead Sky Reporter was sticking the boot in on him too

What exactly is your point ? Why the hell not ?

my point is you can see how much he cares about the club and you have had people in the media waiting to jump on him for ages not to mention the managers that have ganged up on him and by the way I'm not defending his decisions this season but some fans have a short memory (4 months to be exact) all this in a season that Man utd have now been beat 5 times and clubs like Aston Villa, Spurs and Man city have had the money to close the gap.

He cant justify spending 20 million on a player that he doesnt put on the bench

8m in one payment I think it was with it rising over the next 3 years

[Sir Roger]

hughes gone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8422676.stm

feel sorry for him in truth, he has not done much wrong at that club.....just did not have the right name.

The big players don't respect him, he is not a top manager so this was always on the cards. All I have to say is   

Is that possibly because the players are now bigger than the manager and the clubs they represent.

When players are costing clubs £20-£30 million and managers can be picked up for nothing, barring maybe an odd couple of million in compensation, then who do the clubs value more ?

Its all too easy for clubs to make managers the scapegoat, because if the team fails theres only one person getting the chop.. THe players get paid no matter what.

Yes you can argue that the managers pick the team, and should be motivating players. But what motivation is needed when you get £100k a week. That is motivation enough to wham on a shirt, make it look like you are remotely interested, and then pick up the cheque at the end of the week.

Imagine if your boss said to you
"hey you still get paid no matter how bad you perform, and if you dont do your job, dont worry, I'll carry the can for you and they can sack me"

Would you really put in the effort just to save your bosses job, when you are going to get the same money no matter what.

Nobodys saying being a manager is easy. Ask Mark Hughes
The point is its a highly paid and prestigious job.
But it always has been and always will be a results led job. The way the manager sets up his team, who he picks and how he tells them to play is only part of it. The most important thing is they play as a team. Sounds simple but is probably the hardest part of the job. Through his interference, bad decisions and total hands on approach the team spirit has evaporated from last season. I dont know if he can resurrect it. Based on what I have seen so far this season he has no chance. The top players are unhappy and it is affecting the whole attitude of the team Im afraid. There is no leadership, unity, cohesion or togetherness. We hear this "shirt sleeves rolled up" and "we will get it right" sound bites but it seems to be all talk.
This is like a virus that is spreading throughout the club and either Rafa, his staff or someone he brings in asap is going to have to treat it and cure it or it could be terminal.

[LFC2007]

Fourth spot contenders.

Next two games:

Liverpool v Wolves       Arsenal v  Aston Villa       Fulham v  Spurs          Man City v Stoke

Aston Villa v Liverpool     ............................        Spurs v West Ham       Wolves v Man City


The game against Villa could be decisive.

[lakes10]

Time for my flight home




by the way i hope Rafa did not look what was on the wall behind him.......was it a hint.

[lakes10]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

The reason he was not on the bench was because he picked up a knock against Wigan, do some people not follow what goes on with our club or what?

or Ian St. John is right and mow he is fit Rafa looked at him and he is not as good as he thoght he was.

[NANNY RED]

hughes gone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8422676.stm

feel sorry for him in truth, he has not done much wrong at that club.....just did not have the right name.

The big players don't respect him, he is not a top manager so this was always on the cards. All I have to say is   

Is that possibly because the players are now bigger than the manager and the clubs they represent.

When players are costing clubs £20-£30 million and managers can be picked up for nothing, barring maybe an odd couple of million in compensation, then who do the clubs value more ?

Its all too easy for clubs to make managers the scapegoat, because if the team fails theres only one person getting the chop.. THe players get paid no matter what.

Yes you can argue that the managers pick the team, and should be motivating players. But what motivation is needed when you get £100k a week. That is motivation enough to wham on a shirt, make it look like you are remotely interested, and then pick up the cheque at the end of the week.

Imagine if your boss said to you
"hey you still get paid no matter how bad you perform, and if you dont do your job, dont worry, I'll carry the can for you and they can sack me"

Would you really put in the effort just to save your bosses job, when you are going to get the same money no matter what.

Top top fecking post mate , thats excaly how it is ,an excaly how i feel at the mo,

IVE GOT ME FEET ON THE RADIATOR IM THAT COLD,

[bunglemark2]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

The reason he was not on the bench was because he picked up a knock against Wigan, do some people not follow what goes on with our club or what?

or Ian St. John is right and mow he is fit Rafa looked at him and he is not as good as he thoght he was.

Or then again, perhaps it was because he picked up a knock against Wigan ?

Phuck's sake, mate, give it a rest...

[lakes10]

hughes gone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8422676.stm

feel sorry for him in truth, he has not done much wrong at that club.....just did not have the right name.

The big players don't respect him, he is not a top manager so this was always on the cards. All I have to say is   

Is that possibly because the players are now bigger than the manager and the clubs they represent.

When players are costing clubs £20-£30 million and managers can be picked up for nothing, barring maybe an odd couple of million in compensation, then who do the clubs value more ?

Its all too easy for clubs to make managers the scapegoat, because if the team fails theres only one person getting the chop.. THe players get paid no matter what.

Yes you can argue that the managers pick the team, and should be motivating players. But what motivation is needed when you get £100k a week. That is motivation enough to wham on a shirt, make it look like you are remotely interested, and then pick up the cheque at the end of the week.

Imagine if your boss said to you
"hey you still get paid no matter how bad you perform, and if you dont do your job, dont worry, I'll carry the can for you and they can sack me"

Would you really put in the effort just to save your bosses job, when you are going to get the same money no matter what.

Top top fecking post mate , thats excaly how it is ,an excaly how i feel at the mo,

IVE GOT ME FEET ON THE RADIATOR IM THAT COLD,

wow if that the case we should sack all the managers as  nothing is down to them and just pay the players to play games, if we pay they must be able to understand the other side of the game aswell.

[NANNY RED]

f**k me - was Aquaman not even on the bench today ?
Jesus wept...

The reason he was not on the bench was because he picked up a knock against Wigan, do some people not follow what goes on with our club or what?

or Ian St. John is right and mow he is fit Rafa looked at him and he is not as good as he thoght he was.

Or then again, perhaps it was because he picked up a knock against Wigan ?

Phuck's sake, mate, give it a rest...

Lakes he had a calf strain , i posted it up yesterday in the match thread, bUT MAYBE YOU NEVER SEEN THE wIGAN GAME , an the tackle he took,

im as angry as everyone else believe you me, ive got better things to do with 80 quid before Christmas  , But what im not doing is hanging on every word to what Sky an the phoneins or any of our ex players our saying, Thats what it seems a lot of our fans are doing,

[Ciggy]

IVE GOT ME FEET ON THE RADIATOR IM THAT COLD,

Demand a feckin refund nan after that bag of sh!te performance.

[shawnk]

Another thing is, we cant blame entirely on the yanks as the current squad today should be enough to dispatch off a side like Pompey.

[Rockthekop]

Rafa as much as I respect him, has had enough time and money to win the premiership. 

They sacked the wrong man today IMO.