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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:33 am

LFC2007 wrote:Are you out of your mind??

They are still very much key players with big responsibilities on the pitch which demand their exclusive focus. They have no managerial experience whatsoever and we are in deep sh!t. If we're going to make a change we need to bring in an experienced manager, a top quality one preferrably with premiership experience, not some joint player-manager experiment.

Neither did Dalglish. And my idea of Gerrard and Carra is there as a relief of pressure for when they play on the pitch. Lets be honest, a few have mentioned on here Carragher hasnt had his best season but also it has been mentioned, by players also, how football minded he is. So as a coach, Carra would be the one to take the first major step of not playing as much but concentrating on the team.

Like I said its an idea, one I would be willing to try. It sure beats looking at the likes of Allardyce, Hughes, McClaren, Klinnsman as alternatives.
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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:34 am

Kharhaz wrote:There is only so much a captain can do on the pitch, but when the entire team have all but lost faith, not even jesus could motivate this lot.

So he cant get them going on the pitch, you want to stick him in a position OFF the pitch..

OK.....


As i United fan, can I just say I am beginning to like the cut of your jib..

If thats what you think is best for Liverpool I am up for it...

:D  :rasp
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:36 am

POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:There is only so much a captain can do on the pitch, but when the entire team have all but lost faith, not even jesus could motivate this lot.

So he cant get them going on the pitch, you want to stick him in a position OFF the pitch..

OK.....


As i United fan, can I just say I am beginning to like the cut of your jib..

If thats what you think is best for Liverpool I am up for it...

:D  :rasp

:laugh:

Thats unfair, you have taken a snippet from my point and used it to make me look dafter than I already do !  :D
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:38 am

Kharhaz wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Are you out of your mind??

They are still very much key players with big responsibilities on the pitch which demand their exclusive focus. They have no managerial experience whatsoever and we are in deep sh!t. If we're going to make a change we need to bring in an experienced manager, a top quality one preferrably with premiership experience, not some joint player-manager experiment.

Neither did Dalglish. And my idea of Gerrard and Carra is there as a relief of pressure for when they play on the pitch. Lets be honest, a few have mentioned on here Carragher hasnt had his best season but also it has been mentioned, by players also, how football minded he is. So as a coach, Carra would be the one to take the first major step of not playing as much but concentrating on the team.

Like I said its an idea, one I would be willing to try. It sure beats looking at the likes of Allardyce, Hughes, McClaren, Klinnsman as alternatives.

I think you're omitting one tiny little detail in all of this hypothises. When Kenny was manager, he had a great team, with a great winning mentallity. The team then knew what it took to win titles. This team now does not, and on top of that, confidence and form are shot to sh"t. If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.
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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:41 am

Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:42 am

POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..

If we go there, can we have Michael Owen back?
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Postby LFC2007 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:43 am

Kharhaz wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Are you out of your mind??

They are still very much key players with big responsibilities on the pitch which demand their exclusive focus. They have no managerial experience whatsoever and we are in deep sh!t. If we're going to make a change we need to bring in an experienced manager, a top quality one preferrably with premiership experience, not some joint player-manager experiment.

Neither did Dalglish. And my idea of Gerrard and Carra is there as a relief of pressure for when they play on the pitch. Lets be honest, a few have mentioned on here Carragher hasnt had his best season but also it has been mentioned, by players also, how football minded he is. So as a coach, Carra would be the one to take the first major step of not playing as much but concentrating on the team.

Like I said its an idea, one I would be willing to try. It sure beats looking at the likes of Allardyce, Hughes, McClaren, Klinnsman as alternatives.

Kuyt as assistant?  :laugh:
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Postby POKERJOKERZ » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:44 am

Emerald Red wrote:
POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..

If we go there, can we have Michael Owen back?

With pleasure..

I would say we'd pay you to take him, but we're a bit skint..
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:45 am

LFC2007 wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Are you out of your mind??

They are still very much key players with big responsibilities on the pitch which demand their exclusive focus. They have no managerial experience whatsoever and we are in deep sh!t. If we're going to make a change we need to bring in an experienced manager, a top quality one preferrably with premiership experience, not some joint player-manager experiment.

Neither did Dalglish. And my idea of Gerrard and Carra is there as a relief of pressure for when they play on the pitch. Lets be honest, a few have mentioned on here Carragher hasnt had his best season but also it has been mentioned, by players also, how football minded he is. So as a coach, Carra would be the one to take the first major step of not playing as much but concentrating on the team.

Like I said its an idea, one I would be willing to try. It sure beats looking at the likes of Allardyce, Hughes, McClaren, Klinnsman as alternatives.

Kuyt as assistant?  :laugh:

I never read that. First time I laughed out loud all day.  :laugh:

Assistant, eh? Aye, bringing tea, scrubbing Gerrards boots, and carrying the water kind of assistant. I'm happy with that.
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:47 am

Emerald Red wrote:I think you're omitting one tiny little detail in all of this hypothises. When Kenny was manager, he had a great team, with a great winning mentallity. The team then knew what it took to win titles. This team now does not, and on top of that, confidence and form are shot to sh"t. If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

And yet the calls for sacking rafa and having king kenny manage us at least until the end of the season are justified in other areas.

Generally what you are saying is, we are screwed, whatever happens. Lets look at portsmouth, poor season, a change of manager and a whole new attitude.

And yet Liverpool are different, no matter what change occurs management wise, we are too far gone. If that is the case, then keep rafa and lets just live in hope.
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:48 am

LFC2007 wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Are you out of your mind??

They are still very much key players with big responsibilities on the pitch which demand their exclusive focus. They have no managerial experience whatsoever and we are in deep sh!t. If we're going to make a change we need to bring in an experienced manager, a top quality one preferrably with premiership experience, not some joint player-manager experiment.

Neither did Dalglish. And my idea of Gerrard and Carra is there as a relief of pressure for when they play on the pitch. Lets be honest, a few have mentioned on here Carragher hasnt had his best season but also it has been mentioned, by players also, how football minded he is. So as a coach, Carra would be the one to take the first major step of not playing as much but concentrating on the team.

Like I said its an idea, one I would be willing to try. It sure beats looking at the likes of Allardyce, Hughes, McClaren, Klinnsman as alternatives.

Kuyt as assistant?  :laugh:

Dont be daft.......

It would be Lucas....
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:48 am

POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..

If we go there, can we have Michael Owen back?

With pleasure..

I would say we'd pay you to take him, but we're a bit skint..

Done. We'll even throw in Voronin to spice the deal up a bit.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:49 am

Emerald Red wrote:
POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..

If we go there, can we have Michael Owen back?

:censored: off Ste , no no no  :laugh:
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:58 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:I think you're omitting one tiny little detail in all of this hypothises. When Kenny was manager, he had a great team, with a great winning mentallity. The team then knew what it took to win titles. This team now does not, and on top of that, confidence and form are shot to sh"t. If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

And yet the calls for sacking rafa and having king kenny manage us at least until the end of the season are justified in other areas.

Generally what you are saying is, we are screwed, whatever happens. Lets look at portsmouth, poor season, a change of manager and a whole new attitude.

And yet Liverpool are different, no matter what change occurs management wise, we are too far gone. If that is the case, then keep rafa and lets just live in hope.

Yes, what I'm saying is we're a bit f*cked and might just have to take our punishment. The players and manager just don't suddenly become terrible in the space of a few months. We can recover form, and to be honest, that's the best we should hope for this season. If Rafa is sacked or walks with no real plan, then you can bet your bollox that we are totally f*cked. Cert bottom half of the table finish with that. No, I think Dalglish, considering IF he feels that is ready or capable (yes, I said capable. It's been a while) to take over until the end of the season, then fair enough. I'd be chuffed at that, because he's got experience in this league and has won it. But what if he comes in and can't remedy the rot? We're right back at square one wondering if Benitez getting the chop was the right thing to do. This is, afterall, his team. He should know how to fix it. The fact that he isn't at the moment is of grave concern to all, and that is understandable. It may take a bit more time, but let's see if form can be regained and the damage limited. I still hold the belief that this side, and the manager, is better than this. However, if he got sacked tomorrow, then I'd understand why of course and see it in a justifiable light. Right now, it just doesn't seem feasible at the moment.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:00 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
POKERJOKERZ wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:If you're looking a fast track way of getting into the Championship, then your suggestion is as quick as any to go about it.

Now you've said that, I think hes got a point.

You leave him alone..

If we go there, can we have Michael Owen back?

:censored: off Ste , no no no  :laugh:

We could have him to throw oranges at, or prawn sambos.
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