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anne wrote:Mr Owzat (and that little side kick “killerp”), permit me to be blunt. Look i don't know who you are, so stop sending us with these stalking e-mails you pair of freaks. With a name like Owzat it oozes a pessimist and I know you are pessimist, unfortunately I am an optimist (grateful for what Rafa has done) so therefore whatever you think can happen between us won't. The “Gods” don't allow it. Unless i convert, but what do you think i am going to do? Organize a trip for the pair of us to Jerusalem, dodge the 1349th interfada simply to convert to Mourinho/Hiddink love parade (by the way, they’re doing well!!!!) Yooooooouuuuu Putz. In other words stop pestering us with your homo-erotic-Rafa-bashing-freaky-stalking nonsense you schmuk and get a life.
P.s. By the time I get your reply, I’ll be at work, so it had better be short
But if you are a lucky mitzvah, i'll torah scroll your puny when i get back to HQ (Liverpool). Now say your prayers!

Sorry chaps (not you Owzat/Killerp/Gremlin/Cretin/Clown)

I’m currently working in Israel at the moment and love it!

Oddly enough the people here (Israel) cannot understand how Rafa has changed Liverpool from a "has been" (Ajax, Benfica, Marseille) that's right a "Basel struggler". To one of the most feared clubs in Europe and ¼ a way in this season people want to sack that very manager that achieved this?!?!? Again the same man that ‘engineered’ Carra and Gerrard “Worldwide World class status.”


….Oh hold on, Houlllier won the Europa Cup…according to “some” that was an achievement!!!

made in UK wrote:Good on you Roberto

I'll leave my 'superfan' rhetoric at the door of this thread and save that for the 'superfans' but it is a pleasant change to enter a thread like this. Even though I don't agree with most of you're post, my faith is all but lost on Rafa. But I don't want to discuss that in here, what I will say is though many people are fed up with people critising Rafa, which is fair enough as I can understand why. By the same token though everytime we lose a match the people who are fed up with the critising of Rafa, critise the owners instead. For every bad result we get the owners are fault and I suspect some of Rafa's critics get fed up with that too. Showing support without alluding yourself to being a 'superfan' which by definition is mocking others who don't have the luxury of visiting Anfield on a weekly basis. People who deem fellow LFC supporters inferior and believe they're not genuine Liverpool fans because they don't follow the same perplexing unconditional faith in Rafa as they themselves do. Is not support its immaturity.

Sabre wrote:

made in UK wrote:Good on you Roberto

I'll leave my 'superfan' rhetoric at the door of this thread and save that for the 'superfans' but it is a pleasant change to enter a thread like this. Even though I don't agree with most of you're post, my faith is all but lost on Rafa. But I don't want to discuss that in here, what I will say is though many people are fed up with people critising Rafa, which is fair enough as I can understand why. By the same token though everytime we lose a match the people who are fed up with the critising of Rafa, critise the owners instead. For every bad result we get the owners are fault and I suspect some of Rafa's critics get fed up with that too. Showing support without alluding yourself to being a 'superfan' which by definition is mocking others who don't have the luxury of visiting Anfield on a weekly basis. People who deem fellow LFC supporters inferior and believe they're not genuine Liverpool fans because they don't follow the same perplexing unconditional faith in Rafa as they themselves do. Is not support its immaturity.

I agree the gist of this except perhaps the inmaturity bit. I'd just say we've been both sides too stuck in the positions, the debate has gone too far.

I think people who support Rafa are not "Rafa supporters" but Liverpool supporters who think Rafa is the man for the job.

The Antis, similarly, have their opinions because they think is the right thing for the club.

I'm tired from the pro-anti debate a long ago and I said so a long ago, not now. I feel too depressed with the team to discuss about my Rafa views. It's easier to be an Anti, because when we're 2nd, and we're in CL semifinals, you have morale to discuss against or for the manager. But when you're 7th and out of Europe, at least I can't do it. Everything I need is the week passing quickly and a victory of the team. It's not that I'm hiding, it's just that after a defeat you think "if you post that you trust Rafa you'll just wind up people now", and you choose to keep the bitterness to yourself.


I trust Rafa, without that meaning I can't see we're in trouble and Rafa has part of the blame.