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by **bigmick** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:08 am

Fowler_E7 wrote:
bigmick wrote:I remember him scoring a wonder goal for Argentina in the World Cup so he was clearly a good player

Your thinking of someone else there mate, the only "wonder goal" he's ever scored was the one the other day against reading

Really? Feck me it must be age my memory get worse by the week. I thought he was the bloke who did that chest it dwon and hit it on the volley goal but I stand well and truly corrected. :blush:

by **LFC2007** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:12 am

bigmick wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
bigmick wrote:I remember him scoring a wonder goal for Argentina in the World Cup so he was clearly a good player

Your thinking of someone else there mate, the only "wonder goal" he's ever scored was the one the other day against reading

Really? Feck me it must be age my memory get worse by the week. I thought he was the bloke who did that chest it dwon and hit it on the volley goal but I stand well and truly corrected.

That was Maxi Rodriguez, having said that - Mascherano did score a couple in the Copa America last summer, and a real cracker for River Plate in his earlier days.

by **bigmick** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:15 am

LFC2007 wrote:That was Maxi Rodriguez, having said that - Mascherano did score a couple in the Copa America last summer, and a real cracker for River Plate in his earlier days.

I'm afraid I can't even claim to have got the two tournaments mixed up, I didn't see the copa america goals. Ah well :blush:

by **Rush Job** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:49 am

[quote="god_bless_john_houlding"]They may not of been the world stars that Benitez has brought in, but they were still good buys.

Exactly, where was the world class players he kept promising, the next Zz, Viera etc?Fact is everytime he spent big and anything around the 10m mark was big he f*cked it up and as good as wasted the money, not one of those players took us closer to the title. The youth team was neglected and the reserves was full of highly paid flops happy to pick up their money every week.
Im sorry look at the team Rafa inhereted and tell me GH has anything on him when it comes to the transfers and it took him SIX YEARS to put that side together.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 pm

For me Houllier did bring in some talent. Fair enough he made a lot of :censored:

ups, but people musn't forget the players who were success stories. Hyypia is being tipped as our player of the season, Houllier signed him nine years ago for less than 5 million. Credit where it's due, Houllier got it spot on with Sami.

by **Owzat** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:17 pm

Wow! One success in how many millions wasted? Don't forget we still have Riise and Kewell, most of the other players left to Rafa by Houllier were so good he sold them

by **mistyred** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:24 pm

I'm sure we got little or no money what so ever for most of the player GH left behind and saying
that i bet some of them are still on the clubs books

playing for some crappy clube somewhere.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:25 pm

Most of the first team players Benitez has signed they were that good he's sold them as well.

And one success? I take it Babbel, Henchoz, Hamman, Riise, Barmby, Litmanen, Finnan and to some extent Baros, Westerveld and Smicer were just a waste a time eh?

by **LFC2007** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:50 pm

Jean Michel Ferri
Frode Kippe
Rigobert Song
Djimi Traore
Erik Meijer
Bernard Diomede
Pegguy Arphexad
Nicky Barmby
Christian Ziege
Gregory Vignal
Igor Biscan
Abel Xavier
Bruno Cheyrou
El Hadji Diouf
Alou Diarra
Salif Diao
Anthony Le Tallec
Carl Medjani
Djibril Cisse

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:54 pm

Jean Michel Ferri - ?
Frode Kippe - 700,000
Rigobert Song - 2.5million
Djimi Traore - 500,000
Erik Meijer - free
Bernard Diomede - 3million
Pegguy Arphexad - free
Nicky Barmby - 6million
Christian Ziege - 5.5million
Gregory Vignal - 500,000
Igor Biscan - 5.5million
Abel Xavier - 800,000
Bruno Cheyrou - 4.5million
El Hadji Diouf - 10million
Alou Diarra - ?
Salif Diao - 5million
Anthony Le Tallec - ?
Carl Medjani - ?
Djibril Cisse - 14million

that adds up to 58.5million excluding the ones i do not know.
thats alot....

by **Yari7** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:57 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:Jean Michel Ferri - ?
Frode Kippe - 700,000
Rigobert Song - 2.5million
Djimi Traore - 500,000
Erik Meijer - free
Bernard Diomede - 3million
Pegguy Arphexad - free
Nicky Barmby - 6million
Christian Ziege - 5.5million
Gregory Vignal - 500,000
Igor Biscan - 5.5million
Abel Xavier - 800,000
Bruno Cheyrou - 4.5million
El Hadji Diouf - 10million
Alou Diarra - ?
Salif Diao - 5million
Anthony Le Tallec - ?
Carl Medjani - ?
Djibril Cisse - 14million

that adds up to 58.5million excluding the ones i do not know.
thats alot....

Well to be fair to Houllier, you can deduct the £14 million paid for Cisse because Houllier was sacked before he even got the chance to play Cisse.

But amongst those, there were some bad buys.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:12 pm

Pelligrino, Itandje, Paletta, Morientes, Bellamy, Sissoko, Aurellio, Baragan, Kuyt, Fowler, Voronin, Kromkamp, Josemi, Nunez, Leto, Pennant (in many peoples opinion) Padelli, Zenden, Gonzalez. What's it prove?

by **holylamb2006** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:01 pm

Pelligrino, Itandje, Paletta, Morientes, Bellamy, Sissoko, Aurellio, Baragan, Kuyt, Fowler, Voronin, Kromkamp, Josemi, Nunez, Leto, Pennant (in many peoples opinion) Padelli, Zenden, Gonzalez. What's it prove?

That our scouts are rubbish !!!

Learn from your mistakes

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:28 pm

gonzalez, palleta, and morientes never adapted.
pellegrino was past is. still is.
josemi and kromkamp were brought in to make up for the numbers
nunez was part of the owen deal
padelli was on loan
itandge just arrived so its kinda early
voronin has been out more or less injured but i recall he had a rather good start.
bellamy IMO did a good job as what was required of him
if not for Fowler, a lot of games including ones against blackburn would have ended 0-0
zenden is past his best but he was still very useful
barragan didnt wanna stay it seems but he is very highly rated
aurelio is back from injuries and he provides good cover
leto has hardly been playing at all due to work permit issues if im not wrong
kuyt isnt my fave at all. but with the new formation, he has done his job well.
momo did a very good job here though he faded since his eye injury

by **RedBlood** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:34 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Pelligrino, Itandje, Paletta, Morientes, Bellamy, Sissoko, Aurellio, Baragan, Kuyt, Fowler, Voronin, Kromkamp, Josemi, Nunez, Leto, Pennant (in many peoples opinion) Padelli, Zenden, Gonzalez. What's it prove?

i wouldnt put sissoko in there he was very good for us and we got a profit when we sold him, plus pennant is a good player not great but he has his uses, auerillo is a good player and will show that if he can stay fit
the thing is benitez never over spends he always makes sure he can make the money back if a player does not succed

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