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by **Sabre** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:33 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Do people realise Chelsea havent been beaten at home in the league in four years?

So it's four years, then. I thought it was like two. Makes a point seem even more reasonable. Still, to some, this was surely 3 points in the bag. Anything less and dummies would be spat, and the toys would come flying out of the pram.

its not reasonable.
Chelsea looked like a bottom 4 team today and we still could not get a goal.

I'm gonna watch the team now, I've been away, but often, when a team plays like a bottom team, it's because YOU've done a good work and you haven't left them doing their stuff.

But this days no-one gives no credit at all to the manager, and the worst reading of the situation is done under any circumstance.

A point away againt Chelsea is a good result. The problem are the draws at home against Birminghams.

by **Ciggy** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:34 pm

Sabre wrote:A point away againt Chelsea is a good result. The problem are the draws at home against Birminghams.

Senoir Sabre that is the problemo

by **JoeTerp** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:35 pm

GBJh you have to realize that most of the teams that are in the race with us wont come out of that match with any points and 1 at the most so we didn't loose ground. Although blackburn, villa and everton did come away with a point at the bridge. Anyway Chelsea took the same amount of points from us as we took from them this season and although we were the ones that deserved more, most teams are not going to come away with 2 points for the season against them, I hope.

by **nobybob** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:41 pm

peewee wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
peewee wrote:
maguskwt wrote:
peewee wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
peewee wrote:did we have an attempt on goal in the second half?

Did Chelsea?

Were they the home side? Is there side three times more expensive than ours?

Oops!

ballacks attempt was quite close so yes they did. ah well if you are happy with that then thats all well and good, personally i saw another chance of getting 3 points back on the mancs but rafa went out of his way once again to not lose as opposed to going for the win,

i just say it as i see it and the sooner that clown is away from our club the better

that 'clown' gave you the fifth CL trophy and 7th FA Cup in his first 2 years... your prejudice is unbelieveable..

how many points off the top are we? oh yeah thats right

anyway i am going to sleep and leave you lot scrambling round for positives from another dropped 2 points and another lackluster display.

how many wide players did we have on the bench today? pennant, yossi, and kewell and he played kuyt on the right, tactical genius

the point is you showing a total lack of respect for someone who gave the fans (including you) alot of happiness...

again i am missing your point, so that means i have to accept the sh*t he is dishing up now, hell yeah lets just give him the job for life because of istanbul

your whole attitude is really starting to annoy me now , nothing but pessimism. you begrudge the fact they did OK today and are looking to find something, ANYTHING to moan at, any opportunity to have ago at RAFA shame on you.
This is the reason that G&H get so much support off you cos you know that everything these two yank sh!tbags have done weakens your case against rafa. So even when every other fan with half a brain condemns the Americans and say they are out to milk the club dry, you back them !WHATS UR PROBLEM did you find your wife in bed with a Spanish fella with a goatee in years gone by or what? Or are you just one of those people that can never happy unless they can find something to moan at? Well do me a favour take your moaning elsewhere go depress some other forum.

by **King Carra** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:42 pm

We should have won today, again same old story, we have the chances but we just can't put them away!

Still i'll take a point against Chelsea away. Is something to build on and will hopefully give us the momentum to get 4th place this season now.

by **Rush Job** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:51 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:My hands are in the air. I questioned the 18 million price tag of Mascheranho, but today he showed me that he's worth double that at least. The more and more I see the fella, the better he seems to be getting. His tackling was brilliant and he made a few good surging runs from the middle. Well played lad.

As for the overall game, I'm disappointed, I don't see it as a point gained, I see it as two lost. We've fallen further behind City/Villa/Everton and fourth spot is looking less and less likely with each passing game and the way we're going we could struggle to even make the UEFA Cup places, so Europe is our only outlet this season. We might as well accept it now, and throw all our efforts into winning that because otherwise next season there is going to be no European football for Liverpool FC (which may not be a bad thing because it'll enfore the manager to concentrate solely on the Premiership)

Wise up! We already taken points of the sides you mentioned and its not like their not going to drop anymore plus, we'll go on a decent run now we've had our dodgy spell, lighten up FFS.

by **JoeTerp** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:53 pm

Draw was a fair result today people. AND to expect a win would have been crazy, they hadn't lost at home in 4 years, they were already on very good form, its a rarity for teams to even earn a point there, our form has been terrrrrible, and we were without torres. Neither side created anything that threatened the keepers which I will say was great defense by us, and although i really wish that we scored and am disapointed that we didn't, I am pleased with taking a point away from this match. In my opinion, the margin by which we outplayed chelsea did not warrant 3 points, and as such that would fall under the category of a MILDLY disapointing draw, if it was looked at in a vacuum, but in context, I see it as a pleasing draw.

by **Ciggy** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:05 pm

P1sses me off that it should be our responsibility to go out and attack Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. When Utd and Chelsea come to Anfield and play with ten men behind the ball and get's a lucky goal, then its wonderfull United, or Chelsea.

by **Kishan** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:26 pm

TBH both teams seemed to cancel each other out.. of the attacking play, we
had the better of it. Masherano did very well breaking up their play and Skertle looked very assured.

Interesting point raised about the fact that we've conceded the same amount of goals as Chelsea but have scored more than them and yet are 11 points behind them.

Just goes to show how much the draws against the likes of Wigan and Birmingham are hurting us

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:04 pm

Joe it doesn't make a blind bit of difference who takes points off Chelsea, the season isn't decided by how teams get on against them. There's 38 games and those 38 decide the season. The fact that we've dropped points in so many games where we shouldn't of means that we had to win, and that's why it's a disappointment, because it's one less game we have to close the gap.

At the start of the season, if you said we'd get a point at Stamford Bridge, I'd of taken it. But we're not at the start, we're half way through and have to win, we didn't so it's a bad result IMO.

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:20 pm

I think there were a lot more to be pleased about than to moan about today. Skrtel had a great game , showed he can tackle ,has pace, and even tried to break out with the ball (only to be fouled).

Mascherano again showed us that he is still improving even on the high standards he has already set.

The players looked up for the fight, passed much better than they have lately and worked hard for each other.

Up front its no secret we have problems scoring when Torres isn't playing, but I thought Kuyt and Crouch caused Chelsea problems ,and with a little more composure Crouch could have got the winning goal that would have sent us all to bed happy.

I am pleased with the performance and our players, if a little disapointed that we couldn't snatch a winner. I would have gladly settled for a share of the points before the game so to feel we could have had all 3 is something

by **JoeTerp** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:26 pm

not a fair way to compare IMO, #1, IF we win our game in hand, we aren't any games behind (assuming everyone has given up on top 3) #2 Everton had Reading at home this week, If they had drawn, I would have said that we made up points on them because I expect us to beat Reading at home and Everton already drew at the Bridge. BECAUSE there are 38 games and everybody plays 36 games in common with each other plus the two matches against each other. I would think a direct comparison of all like matches plus matches played against each other would be a fairer way to compare. The major inadequicy with this method however, is that you can't really look at the table like this until the last game of the season and by that point the two ways of looking at the table would be the same anyway. BUT the practical application of this theory is the look at the two teams corresponding strengths of schedule remaining which seems about equal after giving it a quick glance.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:39 pm

No it isn't Joe. Comparing results between Liverpool-Chelsea and Everton-Chelsea is bollox. We beat Derby 6-0 at home, United only beat them 4-1, therefore in your therory we should be above United

You look at the table and see where we are, not how other sides around us got on against the others. It's two points dropped simple, if the other sides around us lost during the weekend then it'd be a point gained, but as they won, it's two dropped. Looking at how other sides get on against Chelsea, and trying to compare that is sh!t.

Both Liverpool and United lost to West Ham. Everton beat them so should Everton be above United

by **JoeTerp** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:02 am

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:No it isn't Joe. Comparing results between Liverpool-Chelsea and Everton-Chelsea is bollox. We beat Derby 6-0 at home, United only beat them 4-1, therefore in your therory we should be above United

You look at the table and see where we are, not how other sides around us got on against the others. It's two points dropped simple, if the other sides around us lost during the weekend then it'd be a point gained, but as they won, it's two dropped. Looking at how other sides get on against Chelsea, and trying to compare that is sh!t.

Both Liverpool and United lost to West Ham. Everton beat them so should Everton be above United

you are not understand what I am saying, a teams final position is the collection of all of its games, you are only providing singular game examples, which as you know, is not a fair way to compare. IF Everton and Liverpool drew each other for both games, and then had equal results in every corresponding fixture expect for the Chelsea matches, then whoever did better against Chelsea would finish higher. It wouldn't matter at which point in the season the 4 Chelsea matches occurred for each team, but they would be the "deciding" games of who finished higher.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:06 am

Don't be stupid, with all due respect, what are the chances of us and Everton having the same results for every game? It's not, one game that decides the season, and this one with Chelsea won't decide ours. It's 38 games which will, this is just another one where we've failed.

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