RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:44 pm wrote:Tactically Inept,and regardless of media spin that he's one of the brightest young managers in the game ,I really would like him to disprove my opinion
that its all bollocks and simply an attempt by the collative of Rodgers apologists to blow smoke up our collective arses.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:53 pm wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
Boocity » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:43 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:53 pm wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
Funny how Southampton's transitional season sees them higher up the league and playing better football than they ever have at a fraction of the money we spent.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:53 am wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:45 am wrote:Boocity » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:43 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:53 pm wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
Funny how Southampton's transitional season sees them higher up the league and playing better football than they ever have at a fraction of the money we spent.
That can happen, I remember Ipswich under George Burley doing a similar thing, Moyes at Everton as well.
Some teams just have seasons where things go their way.
The_Rock » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:17 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:53 am wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
Hey Yakka,
You are one of the better posters in this forum. I actually like reading your posts.
I guess most of the people here, know of my opinon of Rodgers... I just want to know your opinon in this issue.
IMO, Rodgers has largely been hiding behind Sturridge's injury this season. That is his "get out of jail card". Once Sturridge is back...things will get better. Well Sturridge is back and now what happens ? .......
...... It looks like Lucas might be out. And with the tough matches coming up (with Spurs, Man City, Europa cup games...etc ), If we do drop points ... are we gonna use the excuse "oh....look, our best DM is injured. Lets wait for him to come back and things will pick up" ? How about, if Henderson gets suspended or injured once Lucas comes back ? Another round of excuses ?
I am not saying you are the one making these excuses. I just wanna know of your opinion in this issue.
It seems quite a lot of fans (along with rodgers) seem to blame everything else apart from his tactics/formations and player selections for sub-par performance this year. His 3-4-3 formation is alienating lots of players in his squd. Against teams which sit up...does it make sense to go with 3 CBs ?
Our performance in the last 6 or 7 matches have been good.....No questions about it. But we have played really bad teams in that run. How do you think we will hold up against spurs, southampton and mancity ?
maguskwt » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:I know your post is directed to yakka. But I just don't get your post. Rodgers did turn it around when he changed to 3-4-3 and that is before Sturridge came back. So how is that hiding behind Sturridge's injury? And how is his 3-4-3 alienating alot of the players in his squad? The 3-4-3 is designed to make use of alot of our creative players. BR has stabilised the defense and at the same time made use of alot of our creative players such as Sterling, Markovic, Lallana, Coutinho and moreno with this formation. So now that Sturridge is back, he is suppose to spearhead this formation. With an out an out striker like Sturridge, this formation is suppose to have more goals. The question now is, which I have highlighted in when Sturridge return thread, who will give way for Sturridge?
The_Rock » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:11 pm wrote:maguskwt » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:I know your post is directed to yakka. But I just don't get your post. Rodgers did turn it around when he changed to 3-4-3 and that is before Sturridge came back. So how is that hiding behind Sturridge's injury? And how is his 3-4-3 alienating alot of the players in his squad? The 3-4-3 is designed to make use of alot of our creative players. BR has stabilised the defense and at the same time made use of alot of our creative players such as Sterling, Markovic, Lallana, Coutinho and moreno with this formation. So now that Sturridge is back, he is suppose to spearhead this formation. With an out an out striker like Sturridge, this formation is suppose to have more goals. The question now is, which I have highlighted in when Sturridge return thread, who will give way for Sturridge?
Balotelli, Lambert, Manquilo, Allen, Markovic, Jorden Ibe and even Steven Gerrard......These players are either not picked or made to play in a system which do not suit their playing style. Balotelli and Lambert function better with a mobile striker next to them. Allen/Gerrard function better in a midfield 3. Markovic and Ibe are wingers/Attacking midfielders. Even Can....isn't it better to get him playing the Lucas role asap (as we don't really have anyone who could replace him when he gets injured) instead of putting him as a CB ?
FWIW, I don't really think our upturn in form is due to this formation Rodgers spent a whole night thinking about and later telling the whole world about his "Eureka" experience....
In fact I am pretty certain....our upturn in form is due to Rodgers finally picking Lucas in the DM role and putting Henderson next to him. And dropping Lovern for Sakho. These 3 changes made our team more solid and yes....I do think if we went back to 4-3-3 or the diamond...we would have at least got the same results.
I hope to god we win against spurs.... But I can see us doing badly against spurs if Rodgers just continues playing 3-4-3 and brining in Allen (or worst Gerrard) for Lucas's DM role.
I believe the key to beating spurs is to go ahead with a balotelli & sturridge strike force (ie...sterling playing in the diamond behind them). As long as we have enough attackers keeping the opposition defence busy, I reckon our defence might be under lesser pressure (ie...so less mistakes, more cleansheets....and mignolet continues to look awesome). Anyway if Lucas is really missing against spurs, lets just see how Rodgers sets up his team. This is the test to really prove if our upturn in form is due to a change in formation or just making sensible tactical choices.
Coming to the game against spurs, I would go with this formation
Mig
Manquilo Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Can
Hendo Coutinho
Sterling
Balo Sturridge
The_Rock » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:17 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:53 am wrote:I agree with ethanr, this season was always going to be transitional and we were never going to be front running with clubs like City and Chelsea who were building from a position of strength.
Both of those clubs didn't have to sell their best player like we did and they didn't lose their main striker for half a season either.
Considering what we have had to cope with I think we have done well.
Hey Yakka,
You are one of the better posters in this forum. I actually like reading your posts.
I just want to know your opinon in this issue. IMO, Rodgers has largely been hiding behind Sturridge's injury this season. That is his "get out of jail card". Once Sturridge is back...things will get better. That was what we were all thinking. Well now.... Sturridge is back. And then.............................
...... It looks like Lucas might be out. And with the tough matches coming up (with Spurs, Man City, Europa cup games...etc ), If we do drop points ... are we gonna use the excuse "oh....look, our best DM is injured. Lets wait for him to come back and things will pick up" ? How about, if Henderson gets suspended or injured once Lucas comes back ? Another round of excuses ?
I am not saying you are the one making these excuses. I just wanna know your opinion in this issue.
It seems quite a lot of fans (along with rodgers) seem to blame everything else apart from his tactics/formations and player selections for sub-par performance this year. His 3-4-3 formation is alienating lots of players in his squad. Against teams which sit back...does it make sense to go with 3 CBs ? Wasn't the idea all along was to pair up sturridge with either balotelli or lambert so that we have more strikers to put away the tons of chances created by sterling, hendo and specifically coutinho ?
Our performance in the last 6 or 7 matches have been good.....No questions about it. But we have played really bad teams in that run. How do you think we will hold up against spurs, southampton and mancity ?
Reg » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:42 am wrote:Logically you'd be a brave man to only play 3 at the back against the likes of Citeh and Chelsea. You have to play belt and braces against them or risk being caught on the hop.
Reg » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:30 am wrote:Some people may enjoy polishing turds, but at least when you're trying to polish your diamond you should be able spot the difference between and not think a diamond is turd simply because you're envious of his teeth.
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