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by **lakes10** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:51 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

ok so you have got me there lol

but what i am trying to say is that he fits better into their football than he fits into ours.

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:53 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Why would they be ? Are we a shitty no mark club

we are in the position of a shitty no mark club. In fact, sometimes i think i support newcastle and the shirt has been painted the wrong colour.

I'm through with Rafa and his f*king awful transfers of the last 2 years. Babel, Lucas, Robbie Keane, Aqualani its like Houllier never f(cking left

So one poor finish in the prem and all off a sudden we are Newcastle and a shitty no mark club and forgetting the world class and top quality players and signings been made . People that are positive about things get called clueless etc but comparing us to Newcastle is what then ?!

by **Sir Roger** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:56 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:This "I can't believe the insults Rafa is getting" from various quarters is getting a bit tired.

Well i think its out of order that he gets called, a fat spanish tw@t, fat spanish waiter, clueless fecker, mentally disturbed to name just a few insults.

There is no need for it yes he has to take most of the blame for us finishing 7th last season, he made a right pigs ear of the job last season, he failed at his job, but people need to focus on that and cut the insults out and debate how and where it went wrong and not just fly off the handle and dish out abuse with things that have nothing to do with liverpool or even football for that matter.

And lakes needs to stop making things up, I know people who know Rafa personally and I havent heard none of what Lakes says from them, infact its Rafa's wife that doesnt want to leave she loves her house and life in Caldy nothing to do with Rafa wanting his own way with Juve.

I agree.
It is out of order for people to call him names and insult him.
When I question his mentality I am not insulting him. I genuinely believe he has issues. This is been made clear through his decisions this season. Thats why I think hes disturbed. Hes not happy. Hes struggling with the pressure of what he thinks he wants and it seems to be clouding his judgement. I want him to succeed so much it hurts.
I would love nothing better than for him to realise he's fu'cked up royally, accept responsibility and learn from his mistakes. Then he could move forward. But what kind of a person wont or cant do that?

You agree its out of order to insult him yet call him disturbed ?? that is very insulting

I honestly dont call it an insult when you say someone is disturbed.
He is not happy. He has said so. Why is he allegdedly touting his ar'se round Europe? Because hes overjoyed? I think not.
His body language and speech this season has been like someone who is on the edge of a nervous breakdown. He waffles on and grins like a loon on tv. His decisions have been strange to say the least. The man is not content and this has been proven by the tw@t of a season weve just endured. Wheres the light at the end of the tunnel? Wheres the blue skies?
I say again: "I would love nothing better than for him to realise he's fu'cked up royally, accept responsibility and learn from his mistakes. Then he could move forward. But what kind of a person wont or cant do that?"
Can you answer me please?

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:58 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Why would they be ? Are we a shitty no mark club

we are in the position of a shitty no mark club. In fact, sometimes i think i support newcastle and the shirt has been painted the wrong colour.

I'm through with Rafa and his f*king awful transfers of the last 2 years. Babel, Lucas, Robbie Keane, Aqualani its like Houllier never f(cking left

So one poor finish in the prem and all off a sudden we are Newcastle and a shitty no mark club and forgetting the world class and top quality players and signings been made . People that are positive about things get called clueless etc but comparing us to Newcastle is what then ?!

over the last 2 years our transfers have been a fecking disaster. Over the last 2 years Rafa has been cringeworthy in his attempts to play the media and engage in mind games.

As i said, what manger in his RIGHT MIND would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Barry. It's like selling Torres and bringing in Heskey.

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:58 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

The sort of choice at the time a lot of fans agreed with due to two seasons of below form Xabi , no club wanted to spend 15 mil on Xabi during that summer yet 12 months down the line it was 30 million which showed something changed ie xabi suddenly found his form again .

How many great managers have won Uefa cup , cl , two la ligas and a fa cup not mention consistently in latter stages of cl another final , carling cup final and second in prem on highest ever points total

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:00 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Why would they be ? Are we a shitty no mark club

we are in the position of a shitty no mark club. In fact, sometimes i think i support newcastle and the shirt has been painted the wrong colour.

I'm through with Rafa and his f*king awful transfers of the last 2 years. Babel, Lucas, Robbie Keane, Aqualani its like Houllier never f(cking left

So one poor finish in the prem and all off a sudden we are Newcastle and a shitty no mark club and forgetting the world class and top quality players and signings been made . People that are positive about things get called clueless etc but comparing us to Newcastle is what then ?!

over the last 2 years our transfers have been a fecking disaster. Over the last 2 years Rafa has been cringeworthy in his attempts to play the media and engage in mind games.

As i said, what manger in his RIGHT MIND would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Barry. It's like selling Torres and bringing in Heskey.

2nd in prem last season suggests it wasn't all bad - still waiting to hear the explanation of shitty no mark club and comparisons to Newcastle

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:00 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

The sort of choice at the time a lot of fans agreed with due to two seasons of below form Xabi , no club wanted to spend 15 mil on Xabi during that summer yet 12 months down the line it was 30 million which showed something changed ie xabi suddenly found his form again .

How many great managers have won Uefa cup , cl , two la ligas and a fa cup not mention consistently in latter stages of cl another final , carling cup final and second in prem on highest ever points total

so it was right to get rid of Alonso because he was out of form? by that idea then it is right to get rid of rafa because he's been out of form for the last 2 years.

Add the fact that he's pi$$ed away what little transfer cash we have had and it completes the case for me. FACT

by **Emerald Red** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:02 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

The sort of choice at the time a lot of fans agreed with due to two seasons of below form Xabi , no club wanted to spend 15 mil on Xabi during that summer yet 12 months down the line it was 30 million which showed something changed ie xabi suddenly found his form again .

How many great managers have won Uefa cup , cl , two la ligas and a fa cup not mention consistently in latter stages of cl another final , carling cup final and second in prem on highest ever points total

so it was right to get rid of Alonso because he was out of form? by that idea then it is right to get rid of rafa because he's been out of form for the last 2 years.

Add the fact that he's pi$$ed away what little transfer cash we have had and it completes the case for me. FACT

It's not "fact" it's your opinion. Fact!

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:03 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:This "I can't believe the insults Rafa is getting" from various quarters is getting a bit tired.

Well i think its out of order that he gets called, a fat spanish tw@t, fat spanish waiter, clueless fecker, mentally disturbed to name just a few insults.

There is no need for it yes he has to take most of the blame for us finishing 7th last season, he made a right pigs ear of the job last season, he failed at his job, but people need to focus on that and cut the insults out and debate how and where it went wrong and not just fly off the handle and dish out abuse with things that have nothing to do with liverpool or even football for that matter.

And lakes needs to stop making things up, I know people who know Rafa personally and I havent heard none of what Lakes says from them, infact its Rafa's wife that doesnt want to leave she loves her house and life in Caldy nothing to do with Rafa wanting his own way with Juve.

I agree.
It is out of order for people to call him names and insult him.
When I question his mentality I am not insulting him. I genuinely believe he has issues. This is been made clear through his decisions this season. Thats why I think hes disturbed. Hes not happy. Hes struggling with the pressure of what he thinks he wants and it seems to be clouding his judgement. I want him to succeed so much it hurts.
I would love nothing better than for him to realise he's fu'cked up royally, accept responsibility and learn from his mistakes. Then he could move forward. But what kind of a person wont or cant do that?

You agree its out of order to insult him yet call him disturbed ?? that is very insulting

I honestly dont call it an insult when you say someone is disturbed.
He is not happy. He has said so. Why is he allegdedly touting his ar'se round Europe? Because hes overjoyed? I think not.
His body language and speech this season has been like someone who is on the edge of a nervous breakdown. He waffles on and grins like a loon on tv. His decisions have been strange to say the least. The man is not content and this has been proven by the tw@t of a season weve just endured. Wheres the light at the end of the tunnel? Wheres the blue skies?
I say again: "I would love nothing better than for him to realise he's fu'cked up royally, accept responsibility and learn from his mistakes. Then he could move forward. But what kind of a person wont or cant do that?"
Can you answer me please?

Calling someone disturbed is an insult and quite a deep one , just because someone is unhappy with things doesn't mean he is disturbed . Yes he prob is unhappy with situation both on and off the field with the club and is expect he is worried about things - who they hell wouldn't . I'm sure every fan is unhappy and worried but I'm pretty sure we aren't disturbed nor looking for a way out

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:04 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Why would they be ? Are we a shitty no mark club

we are in the position of a shitty no mark club. In fact, sometimes i think i support newcastle and the shirt has been painted the wrong colour.

I'm through with Rafa and his f*king awful transfers of the last 2 years. Babel, Lucas, Robbie Keane, Aqualani its like Houllier never f(cking left

So one poor finish in the prem and all off a sudden we are Newcastle and a shitty no mark club and forgetting the world class and top quality players and signings been made . People that are positive about things get called clueless etc but comparing us to Newcastle is what then ?!

over the last 2 years our transfers have been a fecking disaster. Over the last 2 years Rafa has been cringeworthy in his attempts to play the media and engage in mind games.

As i said, what manger in his RIGHT MIND would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Barry. It's like selling Torres and bringing in Heskey.

2nd in prem last season suggests it wasn't all bad - still waiting to hear the explanation of shitty no mark club and comparisons to Newcastle

Newcastle became a shitty now mark club because they got desperate. Both in the transfer market and on the pitch. Rafa cracked up last season and f*cked up our title challenge. We were clear at the top and the team was playing with confidence and flair. What does Rafa do? Embarrass himself with a cringe worthy attack on Man utd and we then lose form.
Not to add the fact Rafa loves airing liverpool’s dirty laundry in public and arguing with the board through the post-match interview.

add the FACT we've wasted million on over rated and over priced players and

Just like Newcastle...

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:05 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

The sort of choice at the time a lot of fans agreed with due to two seasons of below form Xabi , no club wanted to spend 15 mil on Xabi during that summer yet 12 months down the line it was 30 million which showed something changed ie xabi suddenly found his form again .

How many great managers have won Uefa cup , cl , two la ligas and a fa cup not mention consistently in latter stages of cl another final , carling cup final and second in prem on highest ever points total

so it was right to get rid of Alonso because he was out of form? by that idea then it is right to get rid of rafa because he's been out of form for the last 2 years.

Add the fact that he's pi$$ed away what little transfer cash we have had and it completes the case for me. FACT

Xabi hadn't performed for two seasons - no club wanted to but him for anything over 10 million and was looking to replace him with someone who had played excellent for two seasons in a row .

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:06 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
lakes10 wrote:he is very cleaver....I wish i had contracts like he has lol.

TBF to him he hasnt been offered sh!t jobs either considering most of our fan base want him out, Ac Milan, Inter Milan and Juve are not sh!tty no mark clubs.

They understand that Rafa is a great manger but he dont fit in the Prem.

how many 'great' managers would try and sell Alonso and replace him with Garath Barry?

The sort of choice at the time a lot of fans agreed with due to two seasons of below form Xabi , no club wanted to spend 15 mil on Xabi during that summer yet 12 months down the line it was 30 million which showed something changed ie xabi suddenly found his form again .

How many great managers have won Uefa cup , cl , two la ligas and a fa cup not mention consistently in latter stages of cl another final , carling cup final and second in prem on highest ever points total

so it was right to get rid of Alonso because he was out of form? by that idea then it is right to get rid of rafa because he's been out of form for the last 2 years.

Add the fact that he's pi$$ed away what little transfer cash we have had and it completes the case for me. FACT

Xabi hadn't performed for two seasons - no club wanted to but him for anything over 10 million and was looking to replace him with someone who had played excellent for two seasons in a row .

Alonso hadn't performed for 2 seasons? :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:06 pm

We are feck all like newcastle and never will be nor will we ever be a shitty no mark club

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:We are feck all like newcastle and never will be nor will we ever be a shitty no mark club

Alonso hasn't performed for 2 seasons :laugh:

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 10:09 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:We are feck all like newcastle and never will be nor will we ever be a shitty no mark club

that's the way i think we're heading under Rafa. For sure the board have a large part to blame, but Rafa has made the situation 10 times worse.

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