LIVERPOOL V. STOKE CITY - Wednesday 19th august 2009: 20:00

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Postby bigmick » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:33 pm

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Ciggy wrote:Skrtel out for 2-3 weeks cracked jaw.

Ah right. I guess we're going to test out the theories which were being bandied about on here the other day about you only needed THREE centre backs plus kids. Chelsea did it apparently  :)

On a more serious note, will it make Stoke leave the bus in the car park and actually come out and play? On an even more serious note, it's terrible news for the player and us, we are in big trouble.

Fancy that though, you go into the season with only three centre backs and suddently you are caught short. Feck me who would have thought it   ???

He will have to wear a mask when he is back according to his agent.

Well It'll probably improve him from an aesthetic point of view. The hardest thing though will be the momentary faraction of a second pause where he thinks he's going to get hit again. I've never been convinced Petr Cech fully recovered from the long haired Reading bloke kicking his head in, it just seemed to effect his confidence. Mind you, Skyrtels nothing if not brave so he'll no doubt get over it.

It's desperate news for the team though, fortunately Stoke aren't that good in the overall scheme of things and we might get away with it.
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Postby Effes » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:36 pm

bigmick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:Skrtel out for 2-3 weeks cracked jaw.

Ah right. I guess we're going to test out the theories which were being bandied about on here the other day about you only needed THREE centre backs plus kids. Chelsea did it apparently  :)

On a more serious note, will it make Stoke leave the bus in the car park and actually come out and play? On an even more serious note, it's terrible news for the player and us, we are in big trouble.

Fancy that though, you go into the season with only three centre backs and suddently you are caught short. Feck me who would have thought it   ???

He will have to wear a mask when he is back according to his agent.

Well It'll probably improve him from an aesthetic point of view. The hardest thing though will be the momentary faraction of a second pause where he thinks he's going to get hit again. I've never been convinced Petr Cech fully recovered from the long haired Reading bloke kicking his head in, it just seemed to effect his confidence. Mind you, Skyrtels nothing if not brave so he'll no doubt get over it.

It's desperate news for the team though, fortunately Stoke aren't that good in the overall scheme of things and we might get away with it.

They'll be pinging in those Delap throw ins into the box though Mick.

We'll need our CB's fighting for those balls all game.
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Postby stmichael » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:38 pm

as if skrtel doesn't look terrifying enough as it is :D
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:42 pm

yep here it is...

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Postby stmichael » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:44 pm

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Postby mkingdom » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:47 pm

Fauxy wrote:I would like to see Riera on the left and Benayoun in the middle for this one instead of Lucas.

Isn't Riera injured??

How quickly has the squad been exposed as too light?  We'll be playing Carra (with stitches) and Ayala at the back, and we'll again be playing two defensive midfielders...and we're at home...against Stoke.  This is because we have no real alternatives in CM.

We can't play Lucas and Masch together..too similar, and too little creativity.

The only alternative would be to drop Gerrard back to CM, and play Yossi behind Torres.

If we don't sign some attacking flair this summer we are in deep trouble and won't trouble the scorers for the title this year.

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                      reina

johnson    ayala(no choice)   carra   insua

kuyt     masch    gerrard   babel(no choice)

             yossi

                   torres

With that formation we can always swap yossi with babel or kuyt if we need to change things.

I fear for the bench for this game....the kit man may get a place there.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:13 pm

Rafa Benitez will make a late decision on the fitness of centre-back Martin Skrtel ahead of the clash with Stoke City on Wednesday. 
The Slovakia international was substituted in the second half of our 2-1 defeat to Tottenham after an earlier clash of heads with Jamie Carragher.
 
Benitez told reporters at his pre-match press conference: "We have to wait. Daniel Agger will be out for at least two or three more weeks. Skrtel was training this morning and we will decide tomorrow. Carra is okay."
 
The Spaniard was quizzed on the fitness of Fernando Torres following his Confederation Cup antics in the summer.
 
He replied: "The summer has been difficult for some players. The Spanish players and Dossena have been training for maybe 15 days, no more. They want to be fit but it's not easy. Maybe physically they can be more or less ready but then you need match fitness and you need to play games.
 
"Torres is not tired but match fitness is something you can only get during the season."
 
Wednesday's opponents Stoke were the only Barclays Premier League side to stop Liverpool scoring last term as they earned two unlikely draws.
 
The Anfield stalemate proved particularly frustrating after a wrongly-disallowed Steven Gerrard goal.
 
Benitez knows the tally of seven home draws cost his side last term - but insists our form in L4 was not the only factor in us finishing behind Manchester United.
 
"Clearly we lost some points but we won a lot of games at the end too," said the boss. "You never know what costs you but one or two draws could have made the difference.
 
"I think the timing is also important if you draw a game when you could have put pressure on another team.
 
"But last season, United's game against Aston Villa and the famous penalty against Tottenham, these also made a massive difference."
 
Asked how he hoped to improve Liverpool's home form, Benitez pointed to the acquisition of attacking full-back Glen Johnson.
 
The England man won a penalty with a foray forward on Sunday - and the gaffer believes such skills will prove essential in breaking down stubborn opposition.
 
"We signed Johnson to be more offensive," he said.
 
Despite proving an irritant, Benitez has respect for the resilience shown by Tony Pulis's newly-promoted Potters in 2008-09.
 
He said: "They are doing well with the games they've had. The manager is clever; he uses his players really well. They are physical but also well organised. They try to play to their strengths."
 
Wednesday's game gives Liverpool an opportunity to banish their opening day blues.
 
Benitez added: "To play at home is always good for us. The first game in front of our fans, and we know about the draws last year. We have to improve, we have to play well, we have to create chances and we have to take our chances - that's it.
 
"We have to keep possession well and be patient because we will have chances."
 
Benitez also faced questions regarding transfers.
 
Asked about newspaper reports linking Albert Riera with a return to Spain, he added: "No, it's not true."
 
Reporters then quizzed the boss on his attacking options.
 
"We always talk about Gerrard and Torres who we play as strikers, but we also have Voronin, Babel, Ngog and Kuyt," he replied. "We have enough people. The question is that Torres and Gerrard are key players for us. They normally have to play more games than the others and have to be fit."
 
Meanwhile, Benitez believes there could be a case for introducing technology into the game to aid referees.
 
The Reds had two penalty shouts turned away at White Hart Lane on Sunday, while in the Championship Crystal Palace were denied a clear goal against Bristol City.
 
"Maybe we will need technology in the future," said Benitez. "I was always against it but maybe now we need it. You saw the goal disallowed the other day in the Championship. Maybe it will be necessary in the future."


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Postby stmichael » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:36 pm

It's hardly ideal when you're playing Stoke who just lump the ball into the box at every opportunity.

Is Ayala good in the air? I've not seen enough of the lad to really comment.
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Postby Dundalk » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:40 pm

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:45 pm

Don't y'all be too surprised to see Gerrard in central defence at some point.
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Postby TheLad » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:45 pm

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Great!  :D
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Postby JoeTerp » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:50 pm

stmichael wrote:It's hardly ideal when you're playing Stoke who just lump the ball into the box at every opportunity.

Is Ayala good in the air? I've not seen enough of the lad to really comment.

other than San Jose (who wasn't terrible), our reserve CBs were all pretty decent (at reserve level) in the air.  Huth was probably the most aerially dominant, but he was released despite being on the team of the tournament at the south american youth championships. Supposedly his contract running out was due to administrative error, but I don't know how believable that is.
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Postby Fauxy » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:59 pm

From what ive seen of Ayala he is good in the air.
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Postby Toffeehater » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:03 pm

Ayala played well when he came on , would be good for him top get 2 or 3 games than he will get the confidence like johnny evans , who has performed well for manure whenever he has been asked to step in .


                                          Reina

Johnson                    Ayala                Carragher              Insua



Kuyt                        Gerrard               Masch                  Riera/Dossena



                                            Yossi

                                            Torres

3-0 ( Torres hat trick )
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Postby we all dream... » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:09 pm

Toffeehater wrote:Ayala played well when he came on , would be good for him top get 2 or 3 games than he will get the confidence like johnny evans , who has performed well for manure whenever he has been asked to step in .


                                          Reina

Johnson                    Ayala                Carragher              Insua



Kuyt                        Gerrard               Masch                  Riera/Dossena



                                            Yossi

                                            Torres

3-0 ( Torres hat trick )

Why do people want Benayoun behind Torres and Kuyt on the right? Surely we could play Kuyt behind Torres he is, after all, a striker.
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