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Postby lakes10 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:58 pm

bavlondon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:some on here have forgot that Rafa gave us great time awell.
He might not have been the man to win us the prem but he is still the best cl manager there is.
he was also great in one off games, he would study the other team again and again and would work out every mover they were going to make.

stop slaging the guy off, he gave us of 5th and made history for this club and for football.
yes the players had a big part to play that night but Rafa made the subs that changed the game.

That's what weve been saying for months!  :angry:  :D

Anyway it's too late now. What do you make of that latest rumor on a takeover?

what do i make of it.......nothing would shock me about this club right now, but i will not get my hopes up about a buyer in talks, the only thing i know is that the club have only spoken to buyers that have already been spoken to before.
there was talk of two other names but nothing seems to have come of that.

I dont think it is linked to Rafa going but i do feel it will help in the sale of the club as the new owners will not be tied down to a manager with a long contract.


I hope if a new buyer is in talks then for once it can be done without the media all over them, I would like to think that as the world cup is about to start the light will turn away from the club for a bit and we might look a bit better by the time we are looked at again.
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Postby Reg » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:01 am

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Postby Reg » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:01 am

I wish Rafa every success in the future, his work at Anfield was unfinished.
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:03 am

I still can't believe he's gone you know. And no press conference, merely a statement and that's it, the end of an era. When Houllier left he had a chance to bid an emotional farewell in a press conference. Rafa's just been dumped while on holiday :no
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:09 am

LFC2007 wrote:I still can't believe he's gone you know. And no press conference, merely a statement and that's it, the end of an era. When Houllier left he had a chance to bid an emotional farewell in a press conference. Rafa's just been dumped while on holiday :no

I think we will hear from him in time............dont you worry about that...this is Rafa we are talking about.

and dont forget he will have a press conference in a few weks at Inter.
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:27 am

I know it's early :D but in the distant future, long after G&H are gone and in the twilight of his career, could we see him return one day as manager to fulfil said unfinished business?
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Postby SeaofRed » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:48 am

LFC2007 wrote:I know it's early :D but in the distant future, long after G&H are gone and in the twilight of his career, could we see him return one day as manager to fulfil said unfinished business?

I want the new owners to reappoint him straight away, because there is no one else I want managing the club than Rafa Benitez. I accept that Rafa will be gone for a long time, perhaps forever but my heartfelt admiration for the man will never diminish with time.

When I had lost faith that Liverpool would ever be successful, Benitez restored my faith with the greatest night of my life. When I thought that modern day football was gutless, spineless and immoral, Benitez proved me wrong, he is loyal, respectful and worked his backside off so he could put smiles on our faces.

I'm still deeply upset. I'm hurt, disgusted and angry. I think I'll put Forrest Gump on, open a tub of Ben and Jerry's Phish food and have a nice cry.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:57 am

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/7801898/Liverpool-fans-turn-ire-on-managing-director-in-demonstration-at-Rafael-Benitezs-exit.html
]The March [/url]

Released a lot of anger yesterday night ,and so did a good healthy number of fans
GET THE FU*K OUT OF OUR CLUB ,AND GET THE F*CK OUT NOW !
BECAUSE FROM HERE ON IN IT WILL ONLY GET NASTY YOU YANK TW@TS
The gloves are off ...we have tried a patient approach and its failed miserably ..... the time for action is now ....

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:28 am

lakes10 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Rush Job wrote:Aye, and all the talk of rafa holding the club to ransom can now be seen to be a load of sh!te, just as I said.

Some things never change round here - your catchphrase being one.

yer i can use his one as well, Rafa will not be our manager this season JUST AS I SAID  at xmas,

When is it ever going to dawn on you Lad..... the need to shut the f*ck up   ???
emotions are raw tonight so the time for your silence has never been greater ....... give us that courtesy at the very least  ???
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Postby Rush Job » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:36 am

Ben Patrick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
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bavlondon wrote:Get yer red card gloves on mods please... this is getting silly now

do tell ?

Come on Ben... people saying they were going to quit supporting the club because of 1 person potentially still being around? I thought the club was bigger that any individual. Comments like that are only there to wind people up.

i see it the other way.
people moaning that our (imo poor manager) was struggling but are still backing him ?

You explain to me ?

We dont have a manager mate. :D
I think the time has come to let it go.
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Of stupid fools who stand in line......  Like..
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:43 am

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/7801898/Liverpool-fans-turn-ire-on-managing-director-in-demonstration-at-Rafael-Benitezs-exit.html

]The March [/url]

Released a lot of anger yesterday night ,and so did a good healthy number of fans
GET THE FU*K OUT OF OUR CLUB ,AND GET THE F*CK OUT NOW !
BECAUSE FROM HERE ON IN IT WILL ONLY GET NASTY YOU YANK TW@TS
The gloves are off ...we have tried a patient approach and its failed miserably ..... the time for action is now ....

YNWA

It seems the pictures have already been expressly deleted forthwith from the Telegraph  ???
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:11 am

It was an undignified conclusion, as it always is when someone is ushered out of the back door.

Yet it was also somehow typical of the last 12 months for both Rafa Benitez and Liverpool that neither's exit strategy from an increasingly disharmonious relationship worked: not for the club, who ended up paying compensation, or for the manager, who could have gone with more of a swagger had he been enticed to a club of a similar stature.
But it is more fitting that even now he has gone he remains, as he has long been, a man who polarises opinion.

For the believers in the Rafalution, whose numbers have ever more depleted, he is still exempt from the blame. For his more vituperative critics, some of whom rarely venture near Liverpool, he is the source of the club's ills. Students of the regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett tend to be aware that sacking him is no one-stop step to salvation, but plenty will delight at his departure.

Truth be told, his six-year reign on Merseyside defies simplistic judgments. Was he, for instance, a defensive manager? At times, yes, but his two major trophies were secured after 3-3 draws and Liverpool attacked with coruscating brilliance at the end of the 2008-9 season. Is he a poor purchaser of players? There is evidence to support those claims amid the 77 arrivals, but, from Jose Reina to Fernando Torres, there are some astute acquisitions.

Was Benitez granted the resources to succeed? Given an outlay of around £250 million and a net spend of £110 million, probably, though not in his final three transfer windows, when he recorded a profit. Is he a divisive figure? Yes, but in person he is more amiable and courteous than some of his peers, who can more accurately be accused of arrogance.

Did Liverpool overachieve or underachieve in his time? The answer depends upon when the competition, the context, the time it is given. In his last season, however, it is clear. For a manager with an unfortunate association with the word "fact", the numbers painted an unflattering picture: a fourth successive season without silverware, a slump from second to seventh and a total of 19 defeats, three of them in a Champions League group stage that damaged the club's already precarious finances. It made Benitez's position awkward, if not untenable.

Like Gerard Houllier, had he left earlier, it would have been with his reputation higher. As it was, he achieved much but overstayed his welcome. At no club are managers idealised, idolised and romanticised quite like Liverpool. It explains why the regulars at Anfield are slow to turn on underachievers and why there is genuine sadness about Benitez's going.

Yet it is the right decision. A habit of conjuring improbable triumphs when most needed deserted Benitez in his final few months. So, seemingly, did the confidence of some of his charges. He was appointed, in part, because of the players who had voiced their admiration for his Valencia side, who defeated Liverpool in the Champions League in 2002-3. He departs, in part, because of the players; the fear of losing the crown jewels may have prompted Liverpool to act; if the manager commanded the backing of key personnel, their performances did not always suggest that much.

That even those with an emotional attachment to the club, like Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, seemed to contemplate futures elsewhere reflected damningly on Benitez as well as Liverpool's predicament. With debts of £350 million, losses of £55 million and a reported transfer budget of just £5 million, it is a good time to go, because Benitez bequeaths his successor a huge rebuilding job, not least because of the context the unsatisfactory owners provide.

He leaves a stronger side than the one he inherited and, in the youth policy he belatedly wrested control of, probably a better legacy, but as a club Liverpool are in no better a position in 2010 than they were in 2004.

Among 350 games at the helm, plenty stand out: the FA Cup embarrassments at the hands of Burnley and Reading; this season's abject defeats at Fulham, Portsmouth and Wigan, plus the beachball-inflicted setback at Sunderland; the stalemates last season that ultimately deprived Liverpool of the title that eluded Benitez and his three immediate predecessors.

And, on the other side, ending Chelsea's 86-match unbeaten home run in the Premier League and the brutally brilliant 4-1 win over Manchester United at Old Trafford; two, tense but raucously-celebrated Champions League semi-final victories against Chelsea, a 2-0 triumph in the Nou Camp and a 1-0 win at the Bernabeu that was followed by the 4-0 demolition of Real Madrid at Anfield; Steven Gerrard's second superlative display of final heroics against West Ham; and, above all, Istanbul.

It cemented a legend at Anfield. Five years on, appreciation rightly remains for his efforts. Yet from the improbable heights of the 2005 Champions League final, Benitez's reign simply petered out. It concluded with a 0-0 draw against relegated Hull at the KC Stadium, completing a stumble and stutter into seventh place. Drained of belief, exhausted physically and mentally, Liverpool had yielded to Chelsea on his Anfield farewell seven days before. A subdued lap of honour followed. It was, like the manner of his departure, an undistinguished end.
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Postby Owzat » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:46 am

bavlondon wrote:I thought the club was bigger that any individual

Yet all the pro-Rafas are abusing everyone for expressing their opinion on ONE PERSON who is no longer at the club. I suggest they go support whoever he moves to if they can't accept he has gone and not everyone is crying themselves to sleep over it.

He came here to do a job, he failed to do it, he's gone, get over it - and yourselves people.


I hope it wasn't anyone from here stating on SSN that Souness finished 14th in the league! Last time we finished below 10th we were relegated. Perhaps that was why people wanted Rafa to stay, try to get us relegated because the last time that happened we came back up and wrote history. Maybe Rafa's work was unfinished.......................  :laugh:

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Postby redmikey » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:34 am

Owzat wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I thought the club was bigger that any individual

Yet all the pro-Rafas are abusing everyone for expressing their opinion on ONE PERSON who is no longer at the club. I suggest they go support whoever he moves to if they can't accept he has gone and not everyone is crying themselves to sleep over it.

He came here to do a job, he failed to do it, he's gone, get over it - and yourselves people.


I hope it wasn't anyone from here stating on SSN that Souness finished 14th in the league! Last time we finished below 10th we were relegated. Perhaps that was why people wanted Rafa to stay, try to get us relegated because the last time that happened we came back up and wrote history. Maybe Rafa's work was unfinished.......................  :laugh:

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JUST CANNOT SEE HOW YOU CAN COMPARE THE TWO CLOWN

rafa is the manager that took us to the great teams in europe and out played them in there own back yards, rafa has put the best spine in our team on a budget , reina,masha,agger,torres.  souness was a t!t

i am sure you just enjoy winding people up, rafa made loads of mistakes and i believe his head had gone down after last year when we had our record points total and we still didn't win the league and he did'nt get any money to add players he wanted, villa before the euros 2 years ago.

ok if you didn't like the man but as a purely football fan look at how good we were last year on the run in, awesome football we palyed and i reckon it was rafa just stopped worring and let the lads attack like his valencia side used to.
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Postby Owzat » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:52 am

redmikey wrote:
Owzat wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I thought the club was bigger that any individual

Yet all the pro-Rafas are abusing everyone for expressing their opinion on ONE PERSON who is no longer at the club. I suggest they go support whoever he moves to if they can't accept he has gone and not everyone is crying themselves to sleep over it.

He came here to do a job, he failed to do it, he's gone, get over it - and yourselves people.


I hope it wasn't anyone from here stating on SSN that Souness finished 14th in the league! Last time we finished below 10th we were relegated. Perhaps that was why people wanted Rafa to stay, try to get us relegated because the last time that happened we came back up and wrote history. Maybe Rafa's work was unfinished.......................  :laugh:

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JUST CANNOT SEE HOW YOU CAN COMPARE THE TWO CLOWN

rafa is the manager that took us to the great teams in europe and out played them in there own back yards, rafa has put the best spine in our team on a budget , reina,masha,agger,torres.  souness was a t!t

i am sure you just enjoy winding people up, rafa made loads of mistakes and i believe his head had gone down after last year when we had our record points total and we still didn't win the league and he did'nt get any money to add players he wanted, villa before the euros 2 years ago.

ok if you didn't like the man but as a purely football fan look at how good we were last year on the run in, awesome football we palyed and i reckon it was rafa just stopped worring and let the lads attack like his valencia side used to.

I wasn't comparing the two, FOOL, but I guess since most people are running on emotions and not logic at the moment it's no surprise you've drawn that conclusion. After all, most people can read anything they want into what someone else says. Of course I'm not comparing the two, only an idiot would think that, in fact it seems an idiot did..........................

Just because I mention two things in one post doesn't mean I am linking them. I normally put more than one line between two paragraphs to try and make them as separate as possible without doing separate posts.
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