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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:20 am

Sir Roger wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:More lies from our manager . Cheeky c@nt that he is . I don't know how he has the bollox to show his face in public.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....873.ece

“You never know,” he said slowly. “Football is a funny game. The plan was for Barry to play on the left and feed the ball to Robbie Keane, who would play up front with Fernando Torres. This blueprint had to be scrapped. The collateral damage was Keane, who signed from Tottenham Hotspur before the Barry deal had been done.
“When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”

So the truth comes out. Rafa wanted Keane to play in front of Barry. Didnt get Barry so Keane had to go.
Shocking

Come again ! Shocking how . Because he's being honest .  ???
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Postby tubby » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:22 am

I feel for Rafa. Come on yanks give him more money to spend ffs!!!
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Postby bigmick » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:24 am

Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.
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Postby heimdall » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:24 am

Igor Zidane wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:More lies from our manager . Cheeky c@nt that he is . I don't know how he has the bollox to show his face in public.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....873.ece

“You never know,” he said slowly. “Football is a funny game. The plan was for Barry to play on the left and feed the ball to Robbie Keane, who would play up front with Fernando Torres. This blueprint had to be scrapped. The collateral damage was Keane, who signed from Tottenham Hotspur before the Barry deal had been done.
“When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”

So the truth comes out. Rafa wanted Keane to play in front of Barry. Didnt get Barry so Keane had to go.
Shocking

Come again ! Shocking how . Because he's being honest .  ???

Shocking because of mismanagement and waste of money. In most other industires it would be grounds for sacking but not in football, oh no.
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Postby heimdall » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:24 am

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:25 am

Sir Roger wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:More lies from our manager . Cheeky c@nt that he is . I don't know how he has the bollox to show his face in public.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....873.ece

“You never know,” he said slowly. “Football is a funny game. The plan was for Barry to play on the left and feed the ball to Robbie Keane, who would play up front with Fernando Torres. This blueprint had to be scrapped. The collateral damage was Keane, who signed from Tottenham Hotspur before the Barry deal had been done.
“When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”

So the truth comes out. Rafa wanted Keane to play in front of Barry. Didnt get Barry so Keane had to go.
Shocking

Just to finish the rrest of the quote.

"When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”
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Postby Zidane » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:26 am

Eh my point is we are headed in the right direction, the players have let the manager down this season not vice versa.  That's why I can't criticize him much just yet, once we get healthy and we get some better luck I'll come back to this debate.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:26 am

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

And conviently ignored the point about letting other people have opinions - would you like me to post what you said the other day in the Kuyt thread about people who disagreed with what your opinion ?
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:29 am

heimdall wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:More lies from our manager . Cheeky c@nt that he is . I don't know how he has the bollox to show his face in public.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....873.ece

“You never know,” he said slowly. “Football is a funny game. The plan was for Barry to play on the left and feed the ball to Robbie Keane, who would play up front with Fernando Torres. This blueprint had to be scrapped. The collateral damage was Keane, who signed from Tottenham Hotspur before the Barry deal had been done.
“When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”

So the truth comes out. Rafa wanted Keane to play in front of Barry. Didnt get Barry so Keane had to go.
Shocking

Come again ! Shocking how . Because he's being honest .  ???

Shocking because of mismanagement and waste of money. In most other industires it would be grounds for sacking but not in football, oh no.

You don't get it do you.

He wanted to sign barry before keane , Barry was the priority

Parry bought keane first then told Rafa we didn't have enough money for Barry. How in gods name is that shocking management .

Who is still in there job ,Rafa or Parry ?
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Postby bigmick » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:29 am

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

And conviently ignored the point about letting other people have opinions - would you like me to post what you said the other day in the Kuyt thread about people who disagreed with what your opinion ?

I already did it earlier on this thread but be my guest. I'll have a stab from memory.


'kuyt has been very poor this season and only those who are the most rose tinted or clueless would deny it".

Might not be word for word but that was the crux. You go back and do the real quote and we'll compare. BTW I stand by the original statement 100%.
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Postby tubby » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:30 am

The facts are there for all to see, we have made massive progress both on and off the pitch. Anyone who thinks otherwise is is kidding themselves. Yes Rafa has made some mistakes but so do all managers, he is after all only human. The point is we are moving in the right direction with a manager who adores the club. He just needs that extra backing money wise to be able to finally deliver number 19 and more.... Open your eyes people.
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Postby LFC2007 » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:31 am

It's a requirement of his job to be positive, perhaps that explains the 'positive spin' in the article ???

If he didn't believe in his ability to turn it around, it wouldn't make sense for him to stay on as manager.

It seems that for some, only a full-blown apology for each and every one of his mistakes down the years would suffice, otherwise he's being 'quick on his feet to blame everyone else'

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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:31 am

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

And conviently ignored the point about letting other people have opinions - would you like me to post what you said the other day in the Kuyt thread about people who disagreed with what your opinion ?

I already did it earlier on this thread but be my guest. I'll have a stab from memory.


'kuyt has been very poor this season and only those who are the most rose tinted or clueless would deny it".

Might not be word for word but that was the crux. You go back and do the real quote and we'll compare. BTW I stand by the original statement 100%.

And is that not the same as the whole "not allowing other people to have an opinion "
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:32 am

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

And conviently ignored the point about letting other people have opinions - would you like me to post what you said the other day in the Kuyt thread about people who disagreed with what your opinion ?

I already did it earlier on this thread but be my guest. I'll have a stab from memory.


'kuyt has been very poor this season and only those who are the most rose tinted or clueless would deny it".

Might not be word for word but that was the crux. You go back and do the real quote and we'll compare. BTW I stand by the original statement 100%.

Never went into the kuyt thread ,but i agree with that totally and i'm the rosiest of rose tinted.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:33 am

Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Can you hear that noise michael ?

Thats the sound of the point going right over your head .

Lost cause .

Let me know when sensible debating Michael is back on the scene as opposed to the high and mighty broken record one .

so as LFC2007 said - Practice what you preach .

I don't know about sensible debating being back on the menu, or 'high and mighty", but irony certainly is.

And conviently ignored the point about letting other people have opinions - would you like me to post what you said the other day in the Kuyt thread about people who disagreed with what your opinion ?

I already did it earlier on this thread but be my guest. I'll have a stab from memory.


'kuyt has been very poor this season and only those who are the most rose tinted or clueless would deny it".

Might not be word for word but that was the crux. You go back and do the real quote and we'll compare. BTW I stand by the original statement 100%.

Never went into the kuyt thread ,but i agree with that totally and i'm the rosiest of rose tinted.

where as i said that the last number of games during our poor period he has been poor but before that he was scoring a number of goals and had a number of assists so hasnt been poor all season - just in the recent run along with most of the team .
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