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[rocky29]

I hate to say I gotta agree with rocky29 ... But the reality is that we are still relying too much on Torres for goals. Ngog has been improving but is not IMHO yet dependable. I would like to see another established striker, someone who can score goals and also at the same time play alongside Torres since Roy still likes to switch to442. With that in mind I think agbanlahor fits this profile. He will be expensive no doubt, probably in the 20 million region, but I believe it's time for the new owners to start to show that they are serious about building a winning team...

exhibit 36c. Everyone always ends up agreeing with me in the end.

[stmichael]

What's the point in giving Roy x amount to spend on 'quality' when we'll probably still be in the bottom three in January

That's the spirit.

The fullbacks are still a concern for me. Maybe Kelly is the answer long term but Johnson is woefully out of form and I hate Carragher playing there. We also still need a top class holding midfielder because Poulsen is never good enough and Lucas is not a natural holding player.

You could argue that these areas addressing in January even before a backup striker. Having said that it's blatantly obvious that we do need another striker though because if Torres gets an injury (which lets face it is quite likely) then we'll be relying on Ngog and Kuyt, neither of whom are prolific.

[The Raven]

MOTHER WINGERS!

[worcester_red]

We need another striker and we need a new LB and RB plus possibly a really good quality CD. We have to stop playing Carra as he is an utter liability these days, we have to form a CD partnership with Agger and Skittles/Kyrg.

[ethanr]

after watching kryg against blackburn, I think we should keep our back four, but sign wayne bridge as left back, though city probably won't sell to us, in which case rita zigler or however you spell his name.  Striker would love LLorente, but I don't see him coming here.  Too many teams are interested.  I would love Giesuppe Rossi as our next striker.  Young and very talented.  Left wing could be somebody like Turan, Mata or Ashley Young, though I do think Jova should be playing more.

As far as I concerned, i we could sign a striker who plays on the left, left wing and left back, we would be all right.  I guess it's obvious which side I think we are weak on.

By the way, sell Glen Johnson.  Carra did great at right back, going up and down the pitch the whole game.  Own Goal was unlucky, they fouled our CB so their counter was able to go straight through the middle where he would have been.

Our line-up:

Reina
Carra  Kyrg  Skrtel/Agger  Bridge/Zieglar
Cole   Gerrard  Miereles  Young/Turan/Mata
Torres   G. Rossi

[stmichael]

By the way, sell Glen Johnson.  Carra did great at right back, going up and down the pitch the whole game.

are you serious? the guy may not be having the best of times this season but he's a brilliant footballer. we're trying to build a squad not dismantle it. carragher isn't in the same league, especially as a fullback. i hate seeing him play there.

[PabloMedina28]

we definitely need a striker but what type of striker would complement Torres? the strong in the air type like Drogba or the quick ones like Vela? is Wickham really that good? Ashley Young has got 1 year left on his contract and would be worth looking at.

Romelu Lukaku mate hes a young Drogba but will be twice teh player when hes Drogbas age. Hes only 17 but hes been tearing up the belguim league and hes more then good enough 4 the prem. I d love 2 c him alongside Torres. Hed cost about 15-18 million but worth every penny.

is he really good? such insane money for a 17 year old....

Yep and the thing is with Youngsters u can tie them down and in the long run with a player of it quality it would seem like paying peanuts.

[PabloMedina28]

Carragher is probably our best defender atm... and to be honest he's not good enough for a top4 side... Agger is a good all around player... You could probably get away with partnering him with a top CB who is aerially dominant and generally solid.. Skrtel, Greek are both not good enough and Wilson, Kelly arent ready yet... I'd personally get rid of Skrtel and look to bring in Bruno Alves to start with...

Assuming Torres stays and is fit, any forward we get will be sat on the bench while our starting 11 are still lacking a bit.. Going forward, with players like Gerrard, Torres, Cole, Meireles, Aquilani, Johnson... we should be somewhat okay if the tactics are right... Still, a backup forward is important given our lack of option buut i still consider a solid CB to be a priority..

A right winger would be brilliant... Jesus Navas springs to mind...

Konchesky... I've supported the guy since he came... made a few mistakes but has generally been okayish... I still think Aurelio is our best option at the position and if hes fit he'd be my first choice... Problem is, he never is... And if cash is still available after other areas have been improved then it makes sense improving in that area...

When it comes to midfield, we have Merieles, Gerrard, Aquilani who i consider to be top top players.. We also have Poulsen, Shelvey and Cole who can play the 3 central positions next season... We can certainly improve on the likes of Lucas, Poulsen and Spearing, but i wouldnt spend major money on trying to reshape the starting central midfield again...

Gerrard and Meireles in CM, Torres upfront... and build on that...

agreed on this, I do think we need a Hyypia II to pair with either Agger or Carragher. Hangelaand is a very good choice, I haven't seen Bruno Alves.

Simon Kjaer (Wolsburg)  £17m
Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus) £18m
Mamadou Sakho (Lyon i think) £12m

Id get rid of all of r current defenders (Soto, Skrtel, Agger & tell  Carra 2 retire) and bring Ayala back and have them 4 in a new look defense personally

After sales itd cost about £18-20mill but u have everything pace, power, dominance in the air, tough tackling, ability on the ball, experience and youth

Kjaer isn't the answer at CB - he had a very poor World Cup - don't rate him.
Chiellini - would prove to be another Italian failue if you ask me
Sakho - heard good reports about him so possibly.

If you are to read and believe today's papers then we may be requiring a new keeper, star striker and captain 

Torres and Messi bad worldcups, england players who constantly out perform most of the foreign players in the prem week in week out look inferior 2 the same players when it comes 2 tournements 4 england. People look 2 much into WC performances it may be the biggest tournemant in the world but thats what it is a tournemant, afew games. Im judging Kjaer on the 2.5 seasons ive seen him play and put in some brilliant peformances. Diouf looked a world beater after the World Cup. Chiellinis in a different league 2 the usually dross that come here from Itlay

[PabloMedina28]

after watching kryg against blackburn, I think we should keep our back four, but sign wayne bridge as left back, though city probably won't sell to us, in which case rita zigler or however you spell his name.  Striker would love LLorente, but I don't see him coming here.  Too many teams are interested.  I would love Giesuppe Rossi as our next striker.  Young and very talented.  Left wing could be somebody like Turan, Mata or Ashley Young, though I do think Jova should be playing more.

As far as I concerned, i we could sign a striker who plays on the left, left wing and left back, we would be all right.  I guess it's obvious which side I think we are weak on.

By the way, sell Glen Johnson.  Carra did great at right back, going up and down the pitch the whole game.  Own Goal was unlucky, they fouled our CB so their counter was able to go straight through the middle where he would have been.

Our line-up:

Reina
Carra  Kyrg  Skrtel/Agger  Bridge/Zieglar
Cole   Gerrard  Miereles  Young/Turan/Mata
Torres   G. Rossi

Aly Cissokho or Kieron Gibbs

[PabloMedina28]

By the way, sell Glen Johnson.  Carra did great at right back, going up and down the pitch the whole game.

are you serious? the guy may not be having the best of times this season but he's a brilliant footballer. we're trying to build a squad not dismantle it. carragher isn't in the same league, especially as a fullback. i hate seeing him play there.

Amen Carras at right back and getting rid of Jonson would be rediculous he s RW though all day long and would be a brillaint 1 at that. Some people wont open there eyes when it comes 2 Carra, hes a legend 4 me, but hes had his day.

Johnson cant be expected 2 beat players and be an attacking threat throughout the game without getting caught out at the back afew times, its gonna happen. Cole does the same at Chelsea the only difference is that he has great defenders covering him so he gets away with. Like Cole Johnsons the type of player where in a better team u appreciate what he does but in a struggling team his downfalls (not his fault IMHO) get jumped on

[LFC2007]

David Luiz from Benfica. It may take £20m but I think he'd be worth it.

[Scottbot]

Not sure how much money will be available in January nor whether it would be wise to spend too much if it's going to eat into the summer spending budget. It's hard to buy players in January and you tend to end up paying well over the odds and often end up with 2nd or 3rd choice players. Also it will depend on the manager situation, assuming Hodgson gets us going in the right direction, In terms of what i think we need:

Forward - We desperately need a genuine replacement for Torres, ideally someone who can also play with him and while we're at it, someone who can do a job either on the right or left as well, basically someone who can be the player Babel was supposed to be. So not asking much then. As for who that might be? No bloody idea. Would be nice if we could unearth a diamond like united seem to have managed with Hernandez.

Centre-half - As well as our Big Greek is playing at the moment I don't think he's the long-term answer and (I know I go on about him) I'd still love to see us go out and sign Hangeland from Fulham in January. Hodgson did promise that he wouldn't raid his old club for players but I dare say that sentiment (loyal as it is) has gone well and truly out the window given our current predicament.

Full-Back - We're struggling at this position. I was concerned when we signed Konchesky and he's done nothing to convince me I was wrong. He's a solid enough mid-table player but I think he is completely out of his depth at LFC. Johnson on the other side hasn't fared much better and although I like the player i'm concerned about the amount of crosses he allows to come in from the right. A few posters have suggested giving Jonno a run at right mid and I agree it's worth a shout. I think Kelly has some promise, I certainly wouldn't be afraid to chuck the lad in (evidently Roy doesn't have quite the same confidence after his comments before the last game) although he will surely end up playing as a centre-halve.

[redhayesy]

personnally i don't like the january transfer window,it does nothing but try an disrupt certain players,cause others,influenced by their agents,to cause un-necasary media,sh1t stirring etc-yes i know it's all part of the modern game nowadays,but that is partly why i don't agree with it or like it. (shanks absoloutly detested agents for that reason!) so i was educated into his ways of thinking-sorry if it seems out dated etc,but that's just how i am.

for what ever reason we didn't sign a centre foward before the start of the season-will baffle me for a long,long time-it was an still is a no-brainer. this for me was an still is our only prioity for any transfer dealings we may have in the short term future.



for me by jan the sqaud should be in a healthy posistion where the side has well an truly gelled etc to carry them through,our strength in depth is still as strong as many of the other top sides imho. ti's just for whatever reason it hasn't happened yet with some players an posistions due to injury,confidence etc. what i would love to know from anyone on here who has any facts or stats etc when was the last time we bought a player in the january window,who actually made a sugnificent impact on the side till the end of that particular season? 

just to throw that in as part of the discussion like?

[roysreds]

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Hopefully our new owners will try to bring in a big marquee signing in January.

When they bought Daisuke Matsuzaka for $50M($100M with wages) they were competing with NY Mets and Yankees for his signature.  WHich proves they will do battle with the big boys.

I know this smacks of Hicks and his $250M A-rod contract, but these owners are a different breed.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009....ex.html

Saying all that, I'd be happy with Lisandro Lopez and Ashley Young.

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[Scottbot]

what i would love to know from anyone on here who has any facts or stats etc when was the last time we bought a player in the january window,who actually made a sugnificent impact on the side till the end of that particular season? 

just to throw that in as part of the discussion like?

That's a pretty good question that Haysey, almost warrants it's own thread in fact. Just going on the last 6-7 years (plus no doubt i'm missing some out) but I can remember Mascherano came in and played very well when we signed him in January 4 years (i think) ago. He played a big part in getting us to the European Cup final that year. Fowler's return the season before was a great bit of business by Rafa, and not just because the goals he scored (i think he scored 8-10?) but the way it lifted the team and the crowd for the 2nd half of the season. And going back a bit further Nicholas Anelka springs to mind, i thin he said fairly recently that his 3 months at LFC was some of the best football he had ever played. If ever a decision ever came back to haunt a manager it must be passing up Anelka to sign Spit the Dog.