Bellamy/riise fracas?

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Postby Scottbot » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:57 pm

Not good to see headlines like this but we all know how quickly the press can turn nothing into something. I'd bet my life on it being a standard p.iss-up that got a little out of hand coz a couple of players had a bit of a fall-out in public. And don't forget it really DOESN'T MATTER how the press report the incident. All that matters is that the incident hasn't screwed up spirit in the team. Bellamy attacked Riise with a golf club!? Sounds ridiculous to me, i imagine there was an argument and words were spoken but i've had many a petit fallout with my lads out on the pop and we kiss and make up the next morning. I'm sure Bellamy and Riise will have done the same. I've heard Bellamy is stupid but is he really dumb enough to end his Liverpool career in afew moments of madness like that?

Rafa's team selection on Wednesday might give some clues as to whether he is :censored: with certain players.
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Postby welsh wizzard » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:12 pm

heimdall wrote:I'm also starting to think that this is a bit blown out of all prportion, but something did happen, something is being covered up and it is not bloody good enough for a team like LFC.
I totally agree the players can have one or two beers but getting shitfaced is not professional for a top flight sportsman, It should never happen as it is bad for their performance.

Anyway lets hope this is all a load of :censored: but I weant to see Bellamy gone anyway, I'm now suspicious about that assualt charge he got cleared of! He is a thug and what's more not a particularly good footballer.

As for confirmation of these rumours, how about Riises Mum, wouldn't that be quite reliable?

You are a top class profesional Knobbbbb  jockyyyyy.

What proof do you have that Bellamy did that in Cardiff, Yeah we all know he is a hot head, but come on it doesn't mean he did this assault in Cardiff.

Same goes for this topic !! Just because we all know Craig Bellamy is a Hot Head, You Believe What these arsholes of the press publish.  Why can't top class sports players 6 days before a big match have more than a few beers we all like to relax let your hair down etc

So knobbb jockyyyy   just because you personally don't like Craig Bellamy, states he is a shittteee footballer and label him a thug even before the truth has been released. Keep your opinions to yourself.
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Postby davo_LFC » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:15 pm

I cant fu.cking believe some people, no one knows what the truth is yet and still people are calling for bellamys head. Its pathetic really that people automatically believe what the papers say, i would of thought that any half decent supporter would at least wait to hear the clubs side of the story before flying of the handle.
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Postby tubby » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:17 pm

Once again before a big match some story which might not even be true hits the papers.
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:19 pm

WW you are showing your loyalty to bellamy because he's a fellow welsh boyo but the fact of this whole fiasco the only part I find untrue is that Dudek tried to butt a bizzie.

The rest of it is very believable because of these players past reputations, we all had our doubt about Rafa buying Pennant and Bellamy, but whether we like it or not we cannot rule it out 100% and say noway they wouldnt do a thing like that.
Because we know deep down inside they are quite capable of doing something like this.
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Postby teamleader1 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:26 pm

Sounds like a good follow up story to Carra battering SG in the room at the world cup,

Then again, the welsh love that crazy golf lark! :D
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Postby Pedro Maradona » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:29 pm

i reckon its team bonding!
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but no its footballers unwinding with a few drinks and the papers/rags are making a meal of it.....there is no named sources, pictures, etc if the bizzies were involved why isnt there an official statement??  all a load of b0ll0cks!
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Postby welsh wizzard » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:30 pm

Ciggy wrote:WW you are showing your loyalty to bellamy because he's a fellow welsh boyo but the fact of this whole fiasco the only part I find untrue is that Dudek tried to butt a bizzie.

The rest of it is very believable because of these players past reputations, we all had our doubt about Rafa buying Pennant and Bellamy, but whether we like it or not we cannot rule it out 100% and say noway they wouldnt do a thing like that.
Because we know deep down inside they are quite capable of doing something like this.

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Ciggy lad its not a welsh thing. Even though its sounds like it. I would support any of our players until the truth is published whether its pennant, risse dudek etc I know there past reputations are brought into it, but end of the day any person or Liverpool player wheather Bellamy, Pennant, Carra, Stevie, Sami, we are, they are all capable of doing whats supposedly been quoted. Booze does things to the best of us like i say. I have many a story about boozed up stars myself but hey thats life.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:31 pm

Ciggy lad. :D  :p
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:34 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Ciggy lad. :D  :p

Well I dont act very ladylike so its an easy mistake to make :D
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Postby mistyred » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:46 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:Ciggy lad. :D  :p

Well I dont act very ladylike so its an easy mistake to make :D

:D  :D  :laugh:
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Postby Scottbot » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:08 pm

Ciggy wrote:The rest of it is very believable because of these players past reputations, we all had our doubt about Rafa buying Pennant and Bellamy, but whether we like it or not we cannot rule it out 100% and say noway they wouldnt do a thing like that.
Because we know deep down inside they are quite capable of doing something like this.

But don't forget that makes them easy targets for the media who have a habbit of name dropping players who have a prior reputation.
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Postby Dalglish » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:50 pm

Whatever the truth or otherwise of these latest "revelations" the principle reamins the same , that if your a professional footballer in the modern game you have to accept that your a role model to many people and need to represent your "employers" appropriately.

The parrellel in our lives would be our own conduct at work. Whatever job you happen to do for a living you are constrained by a code of conduct which is usually written up by your employers. LFC will be no different and if their code has been broken then the club will deal with it I'm sure.

It doesn't make any difference if your a professional sportsman or a professional plumber we all have to adhere to copdes of conduct.

On Bellamy......... like most fans I like the player but have reservations about the man but that doesn't measn I have the right to put the boot in when nothing has been proven.
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Postby A.B. » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:54 pm

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According to staff at Monty’s Steak House and Bar, there was no trouble at all.
We spoke to staff member Valter who informed us that a party of 22 had been at Monty’s and not 15 as had been reported.

Valter told us: “We have seen what the Record has published but I must tell you that this is a very bad, unrealiable newspaper. It is like your Sun newspaper in England.“Reporters from the Record were here at Monty’s and they were annoyed because the Liverpool players refused to speak to them. They wouldn’t talk to these reporters and the club refused to let them film at the training camp. There was a bad feeling from them because the players wouldn’t do interviews.

“Earlier on Thursday the players came in as routine. They had tables booked for a meal. There were many families and children in Monty’s and all night the players were happy to sign autographs and have their photos taken.

“After their meal they sang Karaoke in small groups. They even sang songs with some of the kids here. It was a fun night.

“The management of Liverpool FC including Mr Benitez had gone for a meal at another resort nearby.

“All night the journalists kept annoying the players. They were very angry because none of the Liverpool players would talk to them or even sign autographs but they would for the families and staff. We had told them about the men from the Reporter and what type of publication it was and to be careful.

“During the night two Liverpool players (non-English) had an argument. It was nothing. It was just like when a group of men are out joking and telling fun at each other. A glass was dropped, just one glass, and Robbie (Fowler) and Steven (Gerrard) told them to both “shut up” but this was just joking talk, there was no bad feelings and they had the drink replaced. They were still friends. It was nothing and they continued in their group all night.

“The reporters tried to say that loads of glasses and other things had been broken outside, many glasses, but we have a law here in Portugal which says nobody can drink outside the bar premises. The police were outside the bars as normal and had they seen anyone outside we would have been fined. We would not let anyone, not even famous people, drink outside.

“Only one glass was broken and this was inside but this happens every night when groups of friends are together. They were no different to any other groups.

“Word came through to the players that Benitez had finished his meal and was coming back to the resort so their private van came to collect them at around 12.30. They all left together.”

We asked if any of the players mentioned in the Record’s article had been causing trouble.

Valter said: “No. Everyone was good. I don’t know all the names but I know Fowler, Gerrard and Crouch. Fowler was one of the first to leave in the first trip. These players were all happy. It was a good night.

“I have spoken to friends at Barringtons (apartment complex where the players are staying) and they said there was no trouble. They said the players weren’t loud because Benitez was with them when they returned.”

It was pointed out to Valter that both establishments could simply be covering something up, which he understood but he added that his manager would be following the Record’s claims up.

He said: “My manager is not here yet but he is furious. Publishing lies is not good for Liverpool players but it’s also not good for our business to say these things when it is not true. I do know that he is contacting the Record for an apology.

“What they have said is not true and I have no problem if you want to use my name because I know the truth is on the cameras (CCTV).

“The journalists are just angry with Liverpool FC and want to create lies.

“Liverpool players are welcome here anytime. They have been brilliant.”

A source at Barringtons who wouldn’t give their name denied that there had been any problems at the complex and that had there been, all guests in the party would have been removed.

She said: “Everyone here is the same. If a group misbehaves then security would remove them. It doesn’t matter if you are famous like an actor or footballer. Everyone would be asked to leave if trouble happened.”


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And it's strange that neither Sky Sports or BBC have reported this.
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Postby 83-1171708240 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:57 pm

Has there been a statement from the hotel complex? The people are whose cars were supposedly smashed up? It’s probably just me, but if a sports star or celebrity smashed my car, I’d be making a meal out of it in the newspapers. I can believe Bellamy and Riise having a confrontation and I can believe that some players got a bit rowdy and drunken, but smashing apartments up, smashing cars up with golf clubs. You have to ask yourself what the players were walking around carrying golf clubs at 3am in the morning. Unless the and where’s the media story of Riise being taken the hospital? It would seem the media have twisted the story and added some spice into the story to sell papers.

The players involved set themselves up for this one, as people have already set said, they are representing the club and shouldn’t be in a situation where stories like this one arise. It’s the players own fault at the end of the day, they shouldn’t be acting in an unprofessional manner to begin with, they have one of the biggest games they will play this season and instead of focusing on the match, not on who can down the most pints in one hour. They have the end of the season to get bladdered.

What interests me is, how comes Ian Cotton hasn’t made a statement? Now surely if it’s a load of lies, then the correct thing to do would be play the situation down and dismiss all the claims?

It will be interesting to see how this develops, but it really shouldn’t happen, especially not in a foreign country and before a massive Champions League encounter with one of the most technically gifted sides in Europe.
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