ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:39 pm wrote:We've already had 4 managers in less than 5 years (Benitez, Hodgson, Kenny and Brendan) do people seriously want to make that 5 in 5? I mean honestly, It's getting beyond a joke now, as soon as we hit any sort of bad patch everyone starts calling for the managers head again.
Every one of those managers I've mentioned had fans screaming for them to be sacked, Benitez won us our first European cup in two decades and took us to another final, he was pipped at the post to the title by a United side with a front line of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez (a United side we beat home and away btw including a 4-1 drubbing at Old Trafford), he even alerted the fans that the club had been taken over by a pair of carpetbaggers and in doing so probably saved the very existence of the club but what was the response from the fans? - sack the ****!
Kenny Dalglish is half a step behind Shanks as the greatest figure in this clubs history, after winning everything as a player he took over the managers job in the wake of Heysel when no one else would touch the managers job here with a barge pole, we were the pariahs of not just football but international sport. He got us accepted back into the sporting fold by producing a team that even our rivals admired and when Hillsborough happened that man was like a rock, as Liverpool manager he felt it was his duty to go to everyone of those 96 funerals. After Hodgson is sacked he returns as an interim manager, gets us to 2 cup finals, wins our first trophy in 6 years and what do the fans say? - sack the ****!
Brendan Rodgers takes us over and after an initial sticky spell he puts together one of the most entertaining sides in our history, we miss out on our first title in a quarter of a century by a hairs breath but we qualify for the CL for the first time in half a decade. The following season he hits a rough patch and what say our fans? - sack the ****
I don't know what's happened to our fan base I really don't, we used to be famous the world over for our loyalty but we've somehow morphed en masse into those two moaning c**ts from the muppets that just sit on the sidelines and bitch and moan.
Yakka...are you really gonna mortage your house on Rodgers being the right coach for us ? Yes he had a good season last year. But lets look at the circumstances.
Manure were going through $hit with moyes in charge. Chelsea were not so ideal for mourinho (and he has solved virtually all the problems they had last year for this campaign). Man City had a new manager (transition.... new manager....new playing style....etc). Arsenal again did not buy any DM or a backup for Giroud...and they suffered for it.
As for us....we had the most stable squad (compared to our top 4 rivals). We dropped out of the cup matches fairly early. Suarez has been here for around 3 years and he was becoming more comfortable in this league. And you know what....everything clicked. Everything. And Rodgers just went with the flow. Its really a no brainer.
If he had found a way to incrementally strength our defence in the training ground while keeping our attack peaking throughout the 2nd half of the season, I would be the 1st one to give him props. But what did he do...... pretty much nothing. He left the defence to fend for themselves and continued playing his kamikaze football (which was really about giving suarez a free role while the other footballers played off him). This football is unsustainable. As soon as Suarez suffered a slight blimp in his form in the later parts of the season.....our football standard went down a notch or 2. Sterling and Coutinho were literally saving our a$$es a few times....but eventually things caught up with us.... after that slip.
Barcelona don't play kamikaze football. They have 2 DM in their teams (mascherano and Busquets). Real Madrid don't play kamikaze football. Neither do the other top European teams. And these teams have better forwards than us.
Coming back to this season, all our rivals for top 4 have strengthen. If Chelsea had gotten costa last season, if arsenal had gotten sanchez last season, if LVG was managing manure last season....I don't think we would have had that run we had last season.
Rodger's philosophy is something which sounds good in a theoretical class but I don't think it would work in actual football pitch. He talks about "if you don't lose possession of the ball, you never lose a match". Well does this really work in top level football ? Even when we play against a non-league team.....we are gonna lose possession to them at some point in the game. It almost seems whenever he opens his mouth he thinks the rest of the people who listen to him are a bunch of idiots. And he is quick to take the credits for making our attack potent (I think it has to do a lot to do with suarez moving up a notch to world class level). But when our defence makes a mistake....it is always an individual's fault....
No wonder....the players seem to play as if Rodger's has lost the dressing room.
FWIW, I don't think Rodger's is a good manager. I consider him a good coach but an average manager. I just can't see us winning European trophies under his regime (In Europe a good defence is imperative). And that is important to me. Liverpool has to be challenging in Europe. ''
BTW Swansea has moved up a level ever since Rodgers left (they won a trophy immediately after he left). And Gary monk seems to be doing a better job than Rodgers.
The players seems to have already made their mind. They are not playing for him.