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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Listening to that interview of Rodgers on talk sport he sort of damns with faint praise and distances himself from our transfer committee.
I can't remember his exact words verbatim but it was along the lines of we have a very good transfer committee here and I'll just see what THEY come up with over the next few days

is he not on the transfer committee himself ?

I think he is mate but he seemed to be speaking about the committee as a separate entity, that's the way it came across to me anyway. Maybe i'm looking to much into what he said.

[maypaxvobiscum]

It drives me up the wall when people label Llori and Alberto as flops.  They are young players that were signed for the future. They've hardly even played yet due to us not having European football or Carling Cup.
While we are all desperate to finish top 4 and get into the CL, the people running the club are actually considering next season, the one after and the one after that.

Obviously we have spotted talent in these 2 players and want them to feature in the future. 

That's the problem. Why buy for the future when we have a bloody academy!?
We need current issues to be fixed. We need a fullback and a defensive midfielder ASAP.
We don't need ones for the future because players like Robinson, Coady, Ibe, Yesil, Sama, Suso who can be groomed.
It makes me mad to see nonsense like this because I don't see the point in buying players who are worse or of the same level of what we already have.
Purchases should improve the first eleven, that's it really. It's simple and straight forward.
All this rubbish about buying for the future is overrated.

[damjan193]

I don't think that it's fair to blame our poor transfer dealings on Rodgers. Since their arrival and even before Rodgers was appointed, the owners preached about how they'd like to sign players with a sell-on value and how they'd like to get value for money. They've been saying that since day one so I can't understand why people are blaming Rodgers for the low money signings when clearly such transfer policy has been dictated to him.

Bar a few mistakes (admittedly a few bad ones), Rodgers has done pretty well concerning our tactics. Suarez is a fantastic player but the way we play has a lot to do with how good he's been. And even without him, more often than not Rodgers found a way for us to play good football and win. He's found a way to accommodate most of the players and play to their strengths and he's made players such as Henderson and Sterling make a U turn and finally find their form.

Considering how much (or how little) Rodgers has been given and the amount of work he has had to do considering how bad we actually were just a little over a year ago, I think he's done a fantastic job.

[red till i die!!]

Listening to that interview of Rodgers on talk sport he sort of damns with faint praise and distances himself from our transfer committee.
I can't remember his exact words verbatim but it was along the lines of we have a very good transfer committee here and I'll just see what THEY come up with over the next few days

is he not on the transfer committee himself ?

I think he is mate but he seemed to be speaking about the committee as a separate entity, that's the way it came across to me anyway. Maybe i'm looking to much into what he said.

if he is on the committee he has to have some input into what happens in terms of targets and valuations. they werent willing to offer what chelsea have bid but will now that he has more or less signed for them. we should have offered that in the first place. he has admitted to scouting salah for months and has even gone to see him play himself. i cant believe that he allowed that deal to fall apart over a few mil when he's clearly interested in the player.
we had similar problems in his first window and again in the summer so for it to happen again leads me to believe he's part of the problem.
the reason i say that is because 18 months ago he claimed he was no yes man, he refused to take the job having to work under a DOF, recently he also spoke out about vincent tan's handling of malkay and said he should let the man get on with the job he was employed to do without him meddling. that to me doesnt sound like a fella who isnt involved or indeed has other people sticking fingers into his pie.

[jacdaniel]

It drives me up the wall when people label Llori and Alberto as flops.  They are young players that were signed for the future. They've hardly even played yet due to us not having European football or Carling Cup.
While we are all desperate to finish top 4 and get into the CL, the people running the club are actually considering next season, the one after and the one after that.

Obviously we have spotted talent in these 2 players and want them to feature in the future. 

That's the problem. Why buy for the future when we have a bloody academy!?
We need current issues to be fixed. We need a fullback and a defensive midfielder ASAP.
We don't need ones for the future because players like Robinson, Coady, Ibe, Yesil, Sama, Suso who can be groomed.
It makes me mad to see nonsense like this because I don't see the point in buying players who are worse or of the same level of what we already have.
Purchases should improve the first eleven, that's it really. It's simple and straight forward.
All this rubbish about buying for the future is overrated.

As fans of the club we want current issues to be fixed such as full back and DM.  Our owners are not fans though.
This is their business.  If we can get the right type of player for the right price, I'm sure we will sign them. 

They want young players with potential on low wages.  Under FSG we won't be signing a 28 year old for 30 million. 
This is their strategy whether you or I agree or not.

[maypaxvobiscum]

Guess their strategy includes fking up transfers every now and then by either not pursuing it hard enough or not offering enough cash which allows other clubs to hijack our deals. I'm losing count of the number of times it's happened. Spurs, Chelsea and Southampton all have gotten our targets ahead of us. Really clueless transfer committee we have there.

[parchpea]

People can pick fault with any manager but Rodgers has been terrific for us and I suspect we will be lucky to hang on to
him if he continues to progress the team against the odds like this, and conduct himself so well with the media.

He is a top guy working on a tight budget considering expectation here, and in my opinion is one of the best managers in the
Premiership.

Put it this way I would only put Mourhino and Wenger above him and neither of those would take a job with us, and even
Martinez turned FSG down.

[Stu the Red]

Take a look at Brendans signings and the price they were worth and put the prices they're worth now should we sell the lot, how many have gone up in value?

Fabio Borini   £10,400,000               £8,000,000
Joe Allen    £15,000,000                   £10,000,000
Oussama Assaidi    £2,400,000          £2,000,000
Samed Yesil     £1,000,000                £1,000,000
Daniel Sturridge    £12,000,000          £25,000,000
Philippe Coutinho    £8,600,000          £20,000,000
Luis Alberto     £6,800,000                £6,000,000
Iago Aspas     £7,500,000                  £5,000,000
Simon Mignolet     £10,000,000         £8,000,000
Tiago Ilori      £7,000,000                 £7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho     £15,000,000         £15,000,000

I've not included loan players or freebies

Total spend £95.7m
Players now worth (in my opinion) £107m

Sturridge is never worth £25,000,000 and half of those valuations are subject to sketchy opinion.

[Stu the Red]

Shown some fantastic man management last night...

However those defending the signings I think are clutching at straws. Coutinho is what's available for £8m... we paid nearly the same for Alberto and Illori... disgraceful to be honest.

We waste to much, none of it ends up on the pitch. When it does, It doesn't improve us often enough.

[leeroy74]

half of those valuations are subject to sketchy opinion.

hence...    why... I ... said...   my ... opinion.   

[LFC1990]

A player is worth what ever a club is willing to pay for him and United paid al ot for Fellani so Sturridge could easily justify a £25 million fee

[jacdaniel]

I think our attack has been absolutely fantastic this year.  Teams are not looking forward to playing us at all.
If they park the bus we will play possession football and break them down.
If they press us and try to play we will destroy them on the counter.

Spurs and Everton games are great examples. 

Against Spurs we pressed high, hunted in packs, won the ball back high up the pitch, used the ball well, controlled the game and got the goals.
Against Everton, we let them have the ball at times and devastated them on the counter.

[Stu the Red]

A player is worth what ever a club is willing to pay for him and United paid al ot for Fellani so Sturridge could easily justify a £25 million fee

£12,000,000 it is then.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

A player is worth what ever a club is willing to pay for him and United paid al ot for Fellani so Sturridge could easily justify a £25 million fee

£12,000,000 it is then.

Sturridge worth £12m? Bit early in the day to be rotten drunk isn't it stu?

[SouthCoastShankly]

A player is worth what ever a club is willing to pay for him and United paid al ot for Fellani so Sturridge could easily justify a £25 million fee

£12,000,000 it is then.

Valuations don't change based on performance then?

If a players value can rocket based on a good World Cup or Euros performance, then it's a cert his value rockets if after moving clubs he scores 27 goals in 34 games.