Brendan Rodgers thread (signs extended contract)

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Postby damjan193 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:16 pm

Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:42 am wrote:
leeroy74 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:19 pm wrote:Take a look at Brendans signings and the price they were worth and put the prices they're worth now should we sell the lot, how many have gone up in value?

Fabio Borini   £10,400,000               £8,000,000
Joe Allen    £15,000,000                   £10,000,000
Oussama Assaidi    £2,400,000          £2,000,000
Samed Yesil     £1,000,000                £1,000,000
Daniel Sturridge    £12,000,000          £25,000,000
Philippe Coutinho    £8,600,000          £20,000,000
Luis Alberto     £6,800,000                £6,000,000
Iago Aspas     £7,500,000                  £5,000,000
Simon Mignolet     £10,000,000         £8,000,000
Tiago Ilori      £7,000,000                 £7,000,000
Mamadou Sakho     £15,000,000         £15,000,000

I've not included loan players or freebies

Total spend £95.7m
Players now worth (in my opinion) £107m


Sturridge is never worth £25,000,000 and half of those valuations are subject to sketchy opinion.

Scores a lot of goals, young and English. Depending on the contract, could be worth around £30m even.

Like it or not Stu, Sturridge is probably the best English striker at the moment.
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Postby Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:38 pm

Sturridge is what? Are you seriously suggesting he's even on the same planet as Rooney? ???

Sturridge is the next best of a bad bunch of England forwards.

Had he been around the same time as Ferdinand, Fowler, Sheringham, Shearer, Wright and Cole wouldn't have got a look in. Instead he's got Crouch, Carroll, Welbeck, Defoe and Lambert for competition.

Like I've said a thousand times, Sturridge isn't a bad player, he's a good one. I just don't believe that over hyping players beyond all belief is clever or endearing.

Some people just don't like a bit of realism it seems.
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Postby Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:44 pm

At the end of the day, he's that good he managed to ruin a near man of the match performance and get himself hooked when we were cruising 4-0.

Those calling him world class are beyond deluded.

So far this season I've heard Sturridge is better than Suarez, Flannagan is the best full back we've ever had, Gerrard is a liability, Coutinho is poor and does nothing, Mignolet is better than Reina, Lucas is the best at what he does, Henderson is one of the best midfielders in the league, Skrtel is one of the best centre halves in the league, Cissokho is better than Enrique, Johnson is the best right back in the league, Liverpool are better when Gerrard doesn't play, Liverpool have the best defence in the league and a massive amount of stupid other statements which are frankly ridiculous.

Listening to half of you on here we don't need any new players as we already have the best in every position on the pitch... yet we find ourselves battling for fourth? ???
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Postby only me » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:46 pm

Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:38 pm wrote:Sturridge is what? Are you seriously suggesting he's even on the same planet as Rooney? ???

Sturridge is the next best of a bad bunch of England forwards.

Had he been around the same time as Ferdinand, Fowler, Sheringham, Shearer, Wright and Cole wouldn't have got a look in. Instead he's got Crouch, Carroll, Welbeck, Defoe and Lambert for competition.

Like I've said a thousand times, Sturridge isn't a bad player, he's a good one. I just don't believe that over hyping players beyond all belief is clever or endearing.

Some people just don't like a bit of realism it seems.


Are you Iago Aspas estranged brother or something? Drop it lad you are pathetic. Daniel is one of the best forwards in the league in his current form end off. Their might be a place and time where he stinks up and then you could draw your i told you so..Till then at least be humble and STfU.
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Postby damjan193 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:29 pm

Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:38 pm wrote:Sturridge is what? Are you seriously suggesting he's even on the same planet as Rooney? ???

Sturridge is the next best of a bad bunch of England forwards.

Had he been around the same time as Ferdinand, Fowler, Sheringham, Shearer, Wright and Cole wouldn't have got a look in. Instead he's got Crouch, Carroll, Welbeck, Defoe and Lambert for competition.

Like I've said a thousand times, Sturridge isn't a bad player, he's a good one. I just don't believe that over hyping players beyond all belief is clever or endearing.

Some people just don't like a bit of realism it seems.

Didn't put Rooney into consideration since I can't remember the last time he's played as a CF.

Mate, you're not the only one that can see Sturridge's flaws, we all can, hence why almost everyone on here can agree that Sturridge is worth around 25m. in a world where players are being sold for triple of that. However, you are the only one who seems to be ridiculous enough to suggest that Sturrdige isn't a good player or at least not good enough to be a starter for us. I see the point that you're trying to make but you exaggerate things so much that people find it very difficult to take you seriously.
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Postby Red Focus » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:05 am

With Agger and Sakho on the long term injury list and with only 2 fit centre backs in Skertel and Toure, I just cannot figure out why he loan out Illori. Imagine if one of Skrtel or Toure or both are out injured, we're f####d!. I don't know what's going on in Brendan's mind.
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Postby Stu the Red » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:49 pm

damjan193 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:29 pm wrote:
Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:38 pm wrote:Sturridge is what? Are you seriously suggesting he's even on the same planet as Rooney? ???

Sturridge is the next best of a bad bunch of England forwards.

Had he been around the same time as Ferdinand, Fowler, Sheringham, Shearer, Wright and Cole wouldn't have got a look in. Instead he's got Crouch, Carroll, Welbeck, Defoe and Lambert for competition.

Like I've said a thousand times, Sturridge isn't a bad player, he's a good one. I just don't believe that over hyping players beyond all belief is clever or endearing.

Some people just don't like a bit of realism it seems.

However, you are the only one who seems to be ridiculous enough to suggest that Sturrdige isn't a good player or at least not good enough to be a starter for us.


I want us to win a league, that's why.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:48 pm

Stu the Red » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:38 pm wrote:Sturridge is what? Are you seriously suggesting he's even on the same planet as Rooney? ???

Sturridge is the next best of a bad bunch of England forwards.

Had he been around the same time as Ferdinand, Fowler, Sheringham, Shearer, Wright and Cole wouldn't have got a look in. Instead he's got Crouch, Carroll, Welbeck, Defoe and Lambert for competition.

Like I've said a thousand times, Sturridge isn't a bad player, he's a good one. I just don't believe that over hyping players beyond all belief is clever or endearing.

Some people just don't like a bit of realism it seems.


Do you mean Rooneys head is as big as a planet?
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:51 am

Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has shared his confidence that the current Reds squad can successfully navigate the remainder of the season after transfer deadline day passed without activity at Melwood.



The Northern Irishman has pledged his faith that the players already at his disposal possess the necessary qualities to maintain his side's challenge.

Speaking to Liverpoolfc.com, the manager revealed the positive attitude coursing through the club and targeted a continuation of the performance witnessed when Everton were downed 4-0 on Tuesday.

No new arrivals this month, but we have seen so far this season that Liverpool have a squad to compete haven't we?

Very much so. If you look at the position that we're in with 15 games to go, we have shown consistently that we have the squad to compete. The benefit of the second half of the season is that there is still a lot of development left in a lot of our players. We have a lot of young players playing in the team who are growing and improving all the time. Them gaining experience and playing games, with the consistency of the team, adds up for a really exciting last 15 games for us.

You've said all along that January is a notoriously difficult window to add to what you've already got; in the end that proved to be the case...

I think it's difficult in order to bring certain players in that are going to help us immediately. The availability of the player, and of course the affordability, are always the two factors involved in getting a player in. It certainly hasn't been because of a lack of work by the football club. There are lots of people who have worked tirelessly to identify and find the right types of players. A lot of those players haven't been able to become available for us. Of course, as a manager, you would like to have strengthened - but I'm very optimistic with the group of players I still have available here. If we can keep those players fit, and maximise the availability for the rest of the season, we can have a great chance to have a really good finish.

Among the players you have, there seems to be a great feeling around Melwood - is everyone still on a high after the derby?

When you win a game of such magnitude against a rival, and you play and perform like we performed, then of course that good feeling continues. I read beforehand that this was the most significant derby game for over 30 years. So to then actually win with the biggest margin for 32 years, and play with the quality and focus that we played with, performance-wise as a coach I was very pleased. I have said to the players already that they have enjoyed it and fantastic, but what we did yesterday is of no consequence - we're now looking to tomorrow and renew the motivation and look to get some positive results.

It has been a long time since Liverpool have been in this strong a position heading into the final third of the season. Is that pressure and excitement something you expect this squad to thrive on?

I do now. I think when I first came in we found that difficult. I think we found the expectancy levels of being at the top, the expectancy to play in what is a style that has become the way and the definition of the way the club has worked - I think all of that rolled into one, to find that consistency level was difficult. I think the expectancy now to win and to perform is something we enjoy, rather than not relish. At this moment in time, where we're at 18 months down the line from my first league game against West Brom, we're in a much better place in every facet of our game. We're still looking to build something here, but we've shown good signs and progress. We just need to keep that focus and concentration on our job.


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/154441-boss-my-confidence-in-current-squad

Ridiculously quick response from Liverpool .......Owners wasting no time in fluffing their pillows to lessen the backlash.
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:11 am

RBG its such a shame that that interview was up and ready for the transfer of that Kono fell through as it appeared on LFC website after 12 last night, shame on the club shame on them. they have made a fool out of our manager !!
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:49 pm

Ciggy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:11 am wrote:RBG its such a shame that that interview was up and ready for the transfer of that Kono fell through as it appeared on LFC website after 12 last night, shame on the club shame on them. they have made a fool out of our manager !!


Nice to read your posts again kid ,I think the owners have done the fans a huge disservice by treating us with such contempt ,I don't believe they have
any affinity with Liverpool football club and even less with the fans,I think we're simply run as a business.

I also think these new legislations that are supposedly being introduced have given a smokescreen to the owners agenda ,and have been aired at 
such a time to conveniently  mask the penny pinching and low ball these beauts consistently f*ck up our transfer windows with.

I do feel for Rodgers though ,he's a humble fella ,whereas Benitez would have made the owners intentions for the future of the club crystal clear.
I think with Rodgers form of diplomacy the owners know the truth about their actual commitment will remain within the club ,as for Ayre I think
he only gets to conclude these transfers because he's a drug mule  :;):
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:18 pm

I can't say I miss the days of Rafa airing our dirty washing for all to see. I also can't say I believe there's a hidden agenda going on. The owners made the cash available and the deal was done, only for Dnipro to pull the plug.

I agree that our owners are tight with money, but I think the club will benefit in the long run. I really do.
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:32 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:49 pm wrote:
I do feel for Rodgers though ,he's a humble fella ,whereas Benitez would have made the owners intentions for the future of the club crystal clear.
I think with Rodgers form of diplomacy the owners know the truth about their actual commitment will remain within the club ,as for Ayre I think
he only gets to conclude these transfers because he's a drug mule 
:;):



:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Needed cheering up after another dismal transfer window and your Ayre's comment did the trick, cheers RBG .

On Brendan, right now the fella always toe's the party line, maybe he doesn't want to say too much and end up like King Kenny with his head on the chopping block. Maybe five years down the road he'll have the CV and self belief to tell us and his masters just how he actually see's it, confident in the knowledge that there'll be other TOP clubs that'll seek his signature.

Still think he's a good maybe even great coach but as a manager ? Still trying to build a reputation, so far his demeanour suggests he's happy to take whatever position his bosses ask for just as long as he hangs onto the job.

Can't say I actually blame the fella, it's not often someone gets the chance to manage a club like Liverpool.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:57 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:32 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:49 pm wrote:
I do feel for Rodgers though ,he's a humble fella ,whereas Benitez would have made the owners intentions for the future of the club crystal clear.
I think with Rodgers form of diplomacy the owners know the truth about their actual commitment will remain within the club ,as for Ayre I think
he only gets to conclude these transfers because he's a drug mule 
:;):



:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Needed cheering up after another dismal transfer window and your Ayre's comment did the trick, cheers RBG .

On Brendan, right now the fella always toe's the party line, maybe he doesn't want to say too much and end up like King Kenny with his head on the chopping block. Maybe five years down the road he'll have the CV and self belief to tell us and his masters just how he actually see's it, confident in the knowledge that there'll be other TOP clubs that'll seek his signature.

Still think he's a good maybe even great coach but as a manager ? Still trying to build a reputation, so far his demeanour suggests he's happy to take whatever position his bosses ask for just as long as he hangs onto the job.

Can't say I actually blame the fella, it's not often someone gets the chance to manage a club like Liverpool.


I don't think anyone can lay any of the blame for this fiasco at the managers door ,after all we're placing far too much importance on a bit part player
in a Woody Allen comedy .  :;):

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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:37 pm

I don't think anyone can lay any of the blame for this fiasco at the managers door


:glare:  I can think of a number of managers who would EXPECT and ACCEPT the blame for "this fiasco" being laid at their door, mainly because they really were MANAGERS.
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