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[red till i die!!]

Fulham may have accepted £4m originally but Villa and then Spurs moved the goalposts.

Once higher bids were offered we had to match them.

even if we paid the same as spurs (6mil straight cash) you cant say it wasnt a  bargain especially given our situation.

[Kharhaz]

Fulham may have accepted £4m originally but Villa and then Spurs moved the goalposts.

Once higher bids were offered we had to match them.

even if we paid the same as spurs (6mil straight cash) you cant say it wasnt a  bargain especially given our situation.

If thats the case then I agree with either the owners or manager. Clint Dempsey isnt worth it. I dont think it is the case though.

[maguskwt]

you ppl are all talking as if you know what happened but in reality you got no clue... ie you're all talking bollox...

so...

[celtic-red!]

Fulham may have accepted £4m originally but Villa and then Spurs moved the goalposts.

Once higher bids were offered we had to match them.

even if we paid the same as spurs (6mil straight cash) you cant say it wasnt a  bargain especially given our situation.

He is easily worth it.  £4m was a joke offer if you ask me.

My point was just if there was no other interest and fulham were stuck with an unhappy player then who knows, maybe they would have accepted £4m.

[Kharhaz]

Fulham may have accepted £4m originally but Villa and then Spurs moved the goalposts.

Once higher bids were offered we had to match them.

even if we paid the same as spurs (6mil straight cash) you cant say it wasnt a  bargain especially given our situation.

He is easily worth it.  £4m was a joke offer if you ask me.

My point was just if there was no other interest and fulham were stuck with an unhappy player then who knows, maybe they would have accepted £4m.

They accepted 6, and if we offered it, well it would be below what they were asking for.

[Reg]

Rodgers is looking very good to me.
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Liverpool v Arsenal: Brendan Rodgers steadying the ship at Anfield

Friday wasn’t the best of transfer deadline days for Liverpool. Outside Melwood, the club’s training ground, a larger than usual crowd had inevitably gathered with the atmosphere livened by the prospect of glimpsing the replacement promised for Andy Carroll. No one arrived.

10:00PM BST 01 Sep 2012

The names were circulated: Chelsea’s Daniel Sturridge, Fulham’s Clint Dempsey, even a bid for the Brazil striker Leandro Damiao. But those huge steel doors didn’t open for a new face.

Sturridge stayed on the Chelsea bench, Damiao remained in Brazil — and Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers had to watch as Tottenham Hotspur raised the £6 million cash he couldn’t to sign Dempsey.

Rodgers isn’t into making hollow promises. He’s a man of clear belief — but he also knew the evening before, when £35 million misfit Carroll was, with heavy symbolism, sent out on loan to West Ham, he had optimistically stated he would be replaced; that goals would “be added to the team”.

Now Rodgers has just two senior strikers and one of those, 21-year-old Fabio Borini, is yet to score in the Premier League.

There’s a new reality at Liverpool. As Rodgers sits inside Melwood, preparing for Sunday’s Premier League encounter with Arsenal and Arsène Wenger, there’s a Wenger-like reference to finance, the “deficit” to clean up in Liverpool’s budget and also the “millions upon millions they [the owners] have poured into here” and, tellingly, the need to “stabilise” the club from recent “trauma”.

“It’s not for me to say,” Rodgers claims, diplomatically, when asked whether millions have, indeed, been wasted although the cold truth is that with Carroll out, Charlie Adam sold, Jordan Henderson for sale and Stewart Downing’s future in doubt, the new manager has delivered his verdict on the profligate spending of the Kenny Dalglish-Damien Comolli regime.

“I have to look at it in terms of how I want to play and when you have a philosophy it makes it simple,” Rodgers explained.

“If you go to a library and are looking for a sports book and go straight to that section then it’s quite straightforward. But the problem is when you go into that library and you’re not sure what you are looking for. You then spend half your time and effort wandering around and you might end up with a book you don’t want.  “For me, it’s simple. There are lots of very good players out there but I look for players who fit the profile of how they work for you.”

Those players he inherited, despite the cost, simply didn’t do that while other high-earners such as Craig Bellamy and Dirk Kuyt had to go to balance the books.

It irks Liverpool that Joe Cole, with his £90,000-a-week wage, remains. “Your principles are based on the players you have and as much as everyone wants to play you have to have certain types of players,” Rodgers said.  More change will come in January; a striker has to be bought. But there is that need for stability, also.

There is talk of “steadying the ship” and also plotting a course. There is the “Liverpool way”, as Rodgers quickly references, but there is also the ‘Rodgers way’. Whether he succeeds or fails, he wants to do so without compromise despite the bitter disappointment of deadline day.

“There’s been a lot of trauma, a lot of change in the club as a whole over the last couple of seasons and only once you are here can you realise the instability that has been here for a few years and that affects everyone,” he said.

“There’s been a change of ownership, a change in staff and a lot of vulnerability around the club and hopefully what I have come in and done is get everyone on board the ship and set sail knowing where we are going.”

There is, therefore, a natural respect for Wenger, and not just because both men have a similar belief as to how football should be played. There is the “Wenger way”, also, even if it, at times, has infuriated Arsenal supporters. “It’s not just about winning,” Rodgers said. “It’s about winning with style and that’s something I always look to from Arsène.

“As a manager, whatever race you are in, you want to win the race. Of course the rewards for getting into that top four are incredible. But you can’t say that Arsène Wenger, even though he hasn’t achieved a trophy [for seven years] hasn’t been successful.”

Rodgers wants to create his own dynasty at Liverpool. “I love it here,” he said. “Just the culture of the city, the people and the club — it’s a hand in glove fit really. I wasn’t going to leave Swansea for anywhere.

“So it had to be a unique opportunity for me to leave there. And the opportunity to come, despite the frustrations, despite the difficulties, to one of the best clubs in the world was something I just wanted to have a go at.”

There’s a pause. “Some clubs can be a gateway for you in your career, and to move on. This is a club that I hope is a destination for many years.”

[laza]

Good read thanks Reg

[Basil]

If I was Brendan I would be really ***** off with the Dempsey deal, he would have been a perfect fit into our squad and although we really don't know what happened it must be some sort of misunderstanding. I suppose we would have also bought a striker if we could have sold Carroll. I would love to know who is overseeing the transfers and doing the negotiating, surely it's not just Ayre ?

It's good to hear we hope to do business in January, let's hope we can line up 1 or 2 good forwards. We really need to get Joe Cole off the books ASAP and then get some money in for Carroll and Spearing next summer so that we can further upgrade the squad.

It's going to take a while but I think we need to back Brendan and FSG, learn by our mistakes and get this club back where we belong.

[Boxscarf]

So Rodgers has ***** off two senior squad players and internationals at that. Nicely done Brendan. This ain't Reserve team coaching at Chavski or coach of Swansea minnows !

We didn't finish too far in front of Swansea last season. 8th to their 11th finish and 52 points to their 47 points. Rodgers might have messed up with loaning Carroll out, but I think he's been hitting the right notes thus far, that of course might change, but your comment is unwarranted.

[maguskwt]

So Rodgers has ***** off two senior squad players and internationals at that. Nicely done Brendan. This ain't Reserve team coaching at Chavski or coach of Swansea minnows !

We didn't finish too far in front of Swansea last season. 8th to their 11th finish and 52 points to their 47 points. Rodgers might have messed up with loaning Carroll out, but I think he's been hitting the right notes thus far, that of course might change, but your comment is unwarranted.

It's realy amazing isn't it? The manager hasn't even completed 3 league games and he's being criticized...
two senior squad players and internationals...  ... pls we're talking about Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam here...    they will hardly be missed...

It's true we are a little short in the strikers department and what happened with the Dempsey deal was a real mess... it doesn't look good on the owners and the managers... but sometimes we have to trust what the manager is doing...

[Reg]

Quite agree, the squad we have has to get us through to January - 4 months.

I wish the miserable tw@ts would go be miserable on another forum.

[Boxscarf]

The people criticising Brendan Rodgers were the same people defending Dalglish from criticisms last season over his rather 'lacklustre' spending in the summer transfer window. It's swings and roundabouts, that's what it is.

[celtic-red!]

some people are desperate for Brendan to fail!!

[Boxscarf]

some people are desperate for Brendan to fail!!

I don't know why because if Rodgers fails then it is yet another major set back for this football club.

[laza]

The people criticising Brendan Rodgers were the same people defending Dalglish from criticisms last season over his rather 'lacklustre' spending in the summer transfer window. It's swings and roundabouts, that's what it is.

That garbage has been going on since Rafa days, I never understand the joy of bring proven right on internet forum at cost attitude myself