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[red till i die!!]

If we sell Agger and bring in a replacement in Ashley Williams I'll be livid!

he'l have half the swansea squad here in no time .
i know we want to see a better style of football but we dont want to be swansea .
i can only hope he has a good stock of fairy dust for that wand of his

[killerp]

Hmmm selling players in their prime to premier league rivals......sounds like an Arsenal policy.

I don't believe that 20 mllion pounds would improve us enough to justify the loss of Agger. We should be demanding 25-30 million for him, make it ridiculous. We don't need to sell him.

If we are looking to raise funds sell Adam, Henderson, Cole or Downing. You would not even notice they are gone apart from the frustrating viewing!

[Penguins]

Problem is I do wonder how much those players would actually give us...
Cole? Maybe we can avoid have to pay to get rid of him?
Downing? Maybe we'll get 5-7 million after paying of the wage.
Adam? not even 5 million after paying half his wage to whatever club will take him.
Henderson? Not even 10 million. And then we migh have to pay for some of his wages to as I doubt any midtable club taking him on want
to spend 60k for his services.
So selling all of them might now even give as much as selling just Agger....

That is what happens when you make stupid signings on high wages. You loose a furtune.

[Kenny Kan]

Since it appears that Rodgers has to sell to buy (because the owners aren't that confident in the man they signed to spend club money), I reckon Agger has been touted the leave because Rodgers couldn't shift Andy Carroll, and by selling a good player (which IMO is stupid) he will get sufficient funds from the sale to by his own players, mediocre or otherwise.

[Johnny Boy]

It could be that he doesn't want to sign or discuss a new contract.
Agger is a great player, would be gutted to see him go but it's difficult to judge on the reasons.
There has been talk of Adam Johnson maybe being part of any deal.

It wouldn't make any sense selling one of our best players to accommodate say 2 other new players coming in.

I would rather we make one big signing than go down the road of buying 2 or 3 average players.
Rafa tried that with the likes of Pennant and more.

[tubby]

If there is a good chance we can get Adam Johnson then I think we should consider it.

[Benny The Noon]

If there is a good chance we can get Adam Johnson then I think we should consider it.

No chance - sorry Bav but Agger is a world class CB - you don't sell them

[Boxscarf]

No chance - sorry Bav but Agger is a world class* CB - you don't sell them

* That's thrown around far too much nowadays.

Agger is a good defender, but he's 28 and he's a sicknote, so I would have no problems selling him in a different climate. However it would appear that Rodgers has to sell-to-buy and I don't see the point of weakening one area in order to try and strengthen another. We'll get nowhere operating on such a flawed philosophy, so I am against his sale by all accounts.

[tubby]

If there is a good chance we can get Adam Johnson then I think we should consider it.

No chance - sorry Bav but Agger is a world class CB - you don't sell them

He's also injury prone and is 27. That money can be used to fill gaps in the squad.

[ken_job]

I think we should consider cashing in but only based on what Agger wants. If hes 100% up for staying at the club then great, lets forget all about this argument but if he wants to leave then he can easily be replaced, hes a good centre back and plays nnice football but hes not consistently available and if you look at the minutes completed per season over the last six years it seems he spends an awful lot of his time injured.
2011/2012 - minutes played 2140 = 62% of game time
2010/2011 - minutes played 1092 = 31% of game time
2009/2010 - minutes played 1977 = 58% of game time
2008/2009 - minutes played 1370 = 40% of game time
2007/2008 - minutes played   436 = 12% of game time
2006/2007 - minutes played 2168 = 63% of game time
of course, that doesnt give the full story, where when Carra was first choice he was competing for a place with Skrtel. but if he wants to leave and if we're being offered 20M + or a johnson plus cash deal I would bite their hands off. Without him we could survive this season with a mix of Carra, Kelly or Coates. They're not the answer yet but seeing as we're in a period of transition it might not hurt us that much to try out one of the younger lads together with Skrtel.

[Benny The Noon]

If there is a good chance we can get Adam Johnson then I think we should consider it.

No chance - sorry Bav but Agger is a world class CB - you don't sell them

He's also injury prone and is 27. That money can be used to fill gaps in the squad.

Selling Agger leaves a massive gap - our defence because very weak. RvP was injury prone for 8 years - I reckon you wouldn't mind buying him

[Thommo's perm]

Hes good but hes not great

[Roger Red Hat]

sell him for £20 million, use £10 million to replace him and chuck £10 million in the pot for other positions.
I do like Agger though, I hope we wont sell him.

[jacdaniel]

Sell to buy is an absolute awful policy as it generally means 2 things...

1)  The owners aren't prepared to invest much.

And / or

2)  They don't fully trust the man they just hired with their money

The whole Agger / Carroll situation reminds me of when Rafa was forced to consider selling Alonso. (who'd had a bad season but was obviously still class) 
When you need to sell to buy... sometimes you need to consider selling someone who will actually fetch a decent fee. 

Perhaps Rodgers is now in a similar position were he has to consider selling a good player just to get money to fill the areas he wants to fill

[maypaxvobiscum]

Sell to buy is an absolute awful policy as it generally means 2 things...

1)  The owners aren't prepared to invest much.

And / or

2)  They don't fully trust the man they just hired with their money

OR they have already seen the amount of garbage which can be bought if a manager if given a huge sum of money.