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by **SupitsJonF** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:25 pm

Seems like some on here believe:

by **Kerry07** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:51 pm

Penguins wrote:He said:

"It was a pity, it was a great performance from the team. We made a lot of chances in the first half and then in the second half. We had to win."

Was he watching the same game as me?
We created f*** all 1st half. We had to win but played 1 up front and 2 deep lying central mids...

Hes the king bluffer.. his interviews are pointless because no one takes him seriously. The media never discuss what he says aside from the time they ripped him over his "fachts"

by **Fauxy** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:00 pm

He needs to go, simple as that.

The players have obviously lost trust in him. I think if he stays for another season he is going to drive our best players mad and they will want out.

Why does he sub Torres ffs. Can he not see that making fourth this season is 100x more important than winning Europa.

Bring in Frank Rijkaard. A man who knows how to get a team playing attractive, effective football. He can bring Arda Turan with him too.

by **stmichael** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:11 pm

I was absolutely fuming earlier with a lot of things. Fortunately I've calmed down a bit now. When I sit back and reassess what happened today. Personally I can't wait for this season to be over but having had a discussion with a few fellow supporters it just reinforces that this is the time for all of the fans to really get behind the team.

As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season. The guy makes me want to pull my hair out at times (if I had any) but the main reason we've gone backwards is not primarily the manager and everybody knows that.

by **tonyeh** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:14 pm

stmichael wrote:The guy makes me want to pull my hair out at times (if I had any) but the main reason we've gone backwards is not primarily the manager and everybody knows that.

That's just not true StMick. Sorry, I can't accept that.

The reason Liverpool are sitting where they are today is because of decisions like this afternoon's.

It's crazy...and it has to end. Otherwise we'll see Liverpool tumble even further.

by **Kharhaz** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:18 pm

stmichael wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season. The guy makes me want to pull my hair out at times (if I had any) but the main reason we've gone backwards is not primarily the manager and everybody knows that.

But it is down to the manager. Imagine the team we could have had. Alonso could still be here, with Torres injured we may well have still had Keane and Crouch as options (its better than what we currently have). And everyones frustration is not based on one bad season. Its based on quite a few.

by **SupitsJonF** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:21 pm

stmichael wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season.

This isn't the first poor season, and wont be the first time finishing outside of the top 4 (if we do in fact finish outside the top 4). And besides the second half of last season, we have played some boring football for a while now. I don't know what everyone is holding onto, he is a good manager but sometimes things just don't work out, and the only way forward is to break things off.

by **stmichael** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:50 pm

SupitsJonF wrote:
stmichael wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season.

This isn't the first poor season, and wont be the first time finishing outside of the top 4 (if we do in fact finish outside the top 4). And besides the second half of last season, we have played some boring football for a while now. I don't know what everyone is holding onto, he is a good manager but sometimes things just don't work out, and the only way forward is to break things off.

ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

by **Kharhaz** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:55 pm

stmichael wrote:ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I do.

I can see the new manager, whoever it is sticking with his strongest lineup. No tactical analysis or concentrating on how the other team are going to play, but simply concentrating on his team, and how we are going to play.

Whoever comes in has the pressure of expectation. Despite a lot of deadwood at the club, we still have a lot of quality so expectation will be pretty high. Generally whoever comes in, as long as the basics are met, then we are halfway there. I would like teams to know that Liverpool are going for the win, and not accepting a draw and planning for the next match.

by **Sir Roger** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:58 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
stmichael wrote:ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I do.

I can see the new manager, whoever it is sticking with his strongest lineup. No tactical analysis or concentrating on how the other team are going to play, but simply concentrating on his team, and how we are going to play.

Whoever comes in has the pressure of expectation. Despite a lot of deadwood at the club, we still have a lot of quality so expectation will be pretty high. Generally whoever comes in, as long as the basics are met, then we are halfway there. I would like teams to know that Liverpool are going for the win, and not accepting a draw and planning for the next match.

I doubt very much if any top manager would have made the same decisions hes made this season.
He is unique in that respect

by **bigmick** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:58 pm

stmichael wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:
stmichael wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season.

This isn't the first poor season, and wont be the first time finishing outside of the top 4 (if we do in fact finish outside the top 4). And besides the second half of last season, we have played some boring football for a while now. I don't know what everyone is holding onto, he is a good manager but sometimes things just don't work out, and the only way forward is to break things off.

ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I'll put the question straight back to you. If we'd had Mourinho this season, with identical owners, players and injuries, would we have more, less or the same points?

Don't go down the "but Mourinho wouldn't come" cul-de-sac either, a straight answer would be appreciated.

As for the answer to your question-most definately.

by **stmichael** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:00 am

Kharhaz wrote:
stmichael wrote:ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I do.

I can see the new manager, whoever it is sticking with his strongest lineup. No tactical analysis or concentrating on how the other team are going to play, but simply concentrating on his team, and how we are going to play.

Whoever comes in has the pressure of expectation. Despite a lot of deadwood at the club, we still have a lot of quality so expectation will be pretty high. Generally whoever comes in, as long as the basics are met, then we are halfway there. I would like teams to know that Liverpool are going for the win, and not accepting a draw and planning for the next match.

well that's that then. sack rafa and bring in martin o'neill.

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:02 am

stmichael wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
stmichael wrote:ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I do.

I can see the new manager, whoever it is sticking with his strongest lineup. No tactical analysis or concentrating on how the other team are going to play, but simply concentrating on his team, and how we are going to play.

Whoever comes in has the pressure of expectation. Despite a lot of deadwood at the club, we still have a lot of quality so expectation will be pretty high. Generally whoever comes in, as long as the basics are met, then we are halfway there. I would like teams to know that Liverpool are going for the win, and not accepting a draw and planning for the next match.

well that's that then. sack rafa and bring in martin o'neill.

Really? oh...ok then sorted ! NEXT !

Actually I wouldnt want O'Neill, hes a tw@t !

by **tonyeh** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:07 am

stmichael wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:
stmichael wrote:As far as I'm concerned, you don't just get rid of the manager who brings you closer to the title than you've been in 20 odd years because of one poor season.

This isn't the first poor season, and wont be the first time finishing outside of the top 4 (if we do in fact finish outside the top 4). And besides the second half of last season, we have played some boring football for a while now. I don't know what everyone is holding onto, he is a good manager but sometimes things just don't work out, and the only way forward is to break things off.

ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

We cannot blame the owners for decisions like the one we witnessed out there today Mick.

The owners are dicks no doubt. And no doubt the next owners will be dicks too.

But Benitez is dragging this team into mediocrity and it's decisions like today's that should have EVERY LFC fan shaking their head in disgust.

by **stmichael** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:08 am

Kharhaz wrote:
stmichael wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
stmichael wrote:ok then, i'll rephrase it, if we had a new manager next season but the same owners, do you see next season being any different to this one?

I do.

I can see the new manager, whoever it is sticking with his strongest lineup. No tactical analysis or concentrating on how the other team are going to play, but simply concentrating on his team, and how we are going to play.

Whoever comes in has the pressure of expectation. Despite a lot of deadwood at the club, we still have a lot of quality so expectation will be pretty high. Generally whoever comes in, as long as the basics are met, then we are halfway there. I would like teams to know that Liverpool are going for the win, and not accepting a draw and planning for the next match.

well that's that then. sack rafa and bring in martin o'neill.

Really? oh...ok then sorted ! NEXT !

Actually I wouldnt want O'Neill, hes a tw@t !

no in all fairness mate i'm bringing up the point about o'neill with regards to the fact that he plays almost the exact same side in every league game if all his players are fit. it's a perfect example of people (especially in the media) using certain arguments to suit their own agendas half the time.

on sky soccer saturday yesterday they were criticising o'neill for always going with his best team too much and not using the 'fringe' players enough. at the same time they slammed rafa for years for his rotation policy and not playing his best team every week. talk about hypocritical.

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