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by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:18 am

The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

by **Sir Roger** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:22 am

NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

No matter how many of us are behind him, if the players arent were fu'cked

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:35 am

Sir Roger wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

No matter how many of us are behind him, if the players arent were fu'cked

As i keep saying mate they need to remember that bird there playing for, An that bird can sh.it on them an all.

by **killerp** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:37 am

JohnBull wrote:As a bye-line to the Hughes business - I've just been told that Hughes was first told of his sacking by Kola Toure who had been told by the board "to keep the team together" when they sack Hughes after the game. He told Sparky and that was the first he'd heard about it.

The world's gone fryggyn mad !!!!!

That's what you get from gun-ho Arab owners, they want results yesterday.

by **Reg** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:37 am

The pre season tour was a shambles and we've continued from there.

by **roberto green** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:42 am

NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

by **Sir Roger** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:50 am

roberto green wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

How long should he be given to turn it round?

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:53 am

Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

How long should he be given to turn it round?

Why the time limit, :;):

For ma anyway i would still like him here next season,

Que hunting season :laugh:

by **roberto green** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:56 am

Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

How long should he be given to turn it round?

The end of the season I would say and I don't mean to win trhe league in just getting us to 4th place should be enough then hopefully we will have new ownership...Mmm our ownership has everyone forgotton about them?

by **roberto green** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:58 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

How long should he be given to turn it round?

Why the time limit, For ma anyway i would still like him here next season,

Que hunting season

I think it is fast becoming me and you out in the wilderness here nan.maybe Rafa will take us in

by **Sir Roger** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:59 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:The hard part in all this for me is weve had 3 months of being shi.te . yes blame the manager but also blame the players , but for me them 3 months of playing sh.ite has been overlooked because of whats gone on in the 5 years. And that is why i still back Rafa, i am not judging him on the last 3 months im judging him on the last 5 years, he has not become a bad manager in three months .

I am strongly still behind the boss , if people think im soft then thats there problem,

And even an when he does go , the man will always have my respect , Because he gave us ours back,

Totaly agree nan,He has had money to spend but has he ever had the kind of money in one sinlge summers transfer kitty to the extent of Chelsea,Man Utd,Spurs and man city.I have said in the heat of the moment the past few games he should go but an hour later I come to my senses and realise we won't find many better

How long should he be given to turn it round?

Why the time limit, For ma anyway i would still like him here next season,

Que hunting season

I am not going to be sarcastic or disrespectful
I asked how long because we are sliding down the table rapidly.
We are currently 8th and eight points away from fourth. Fulham are one point behind us
Maybe I should ask whats the lowest people will accept us dropping to before he goes?

by **muzza798** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:17 am

if were not 6th/5th/4th by feb he should go

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:15 am

The main thing for me, the one thing that is killing me (and many supporters on here) is the league. When United equalled our haul, I really expected us to make a proper fight of things. After last season, it wasnt beyond any of our expectations. Looking at how the league has gone this year, if we continued from last season, we would be sitting pretty at the top of the league. I cant help but feel Rafa doesnt have our hopes as close to his heart. A couple of games this season he has made changes to the team in order to help save our champions league campaign. That didnt help. From those changes we are now out of both competitions. We need a manager that understands the club, that understands the supporters. That puts our bread and butter first then the rest. We need to get back in the running. Rafa has proved we can do so. Last season, we fell just short. We won nothing but we finished second. Thats ok, thats fine. We were there or there abouts. This season, the players have lost total faith. Tactics, attitude, whatever. The simple fact is this, the players have lost faith in rafa. Thats a big shame, no doubt about it. But you cant help but feel that when rafa signed his new 5 year contract, it put the players in their place. Rafa is here to stay, you will be messed about, and you will be tinkered with. The wages these lads earn should warrant a perfomance, but you also have to look at the players point of view. How can you perform to your best knowing that even if you do, you will be dropped for the next game. And under rafa this has happened more often than not.

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:16 am

Rog i wasnt being sarky mate,to your post I HONESTLY believe he will turn it around, I do bel;ieve we have the right man already, But im looking at the bigger picture , I dunno mate what i would find unacceptable at the mo , me head is still in bits from yesterdays performance,

by **teamleader1** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:01 am

NANNY RED wrote:Rog i wasnt being sarky mate,to your post I HONESTLY believe he will turn it around, I do bel;ieve we have the right man already, But im looking at the bigger picture , I dunno mate what i would find unacceptable at the mo , me head is still in bits from yesterdays performance,

On what evidence?

Playing 2 left backs in left MF for the last 2 games when we have MF players available is only a couple of examples of why he wont turn things around
Not only was his line up at Pompey strange to say the least, His substitutions when we were desperate for a result were pathetic.

His 2&2 makes 5 more often than not these days, hes a law unto himself and its not working, his style has run out of steam, its time to wish him well and move him on for the sake of the club.

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