Liverpool FC Forum

Madmax wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Today was a real shame. With pretty much all of the sides above us dropping points it was a good opportunity to close the gap. The thing is Arsenal didn't even play that well generally. We have to win in midweek against Wigan.

Ahem... When do we ever capitalise when the top sides drop points?? Last season we fecked that chance many times and as far as this season its just typical of us to do it again.

Scottbot wrote:Just on a side-note, I thought the referee was a f...u...c....k....i...n joke today. God knows what he was thinking on the penalty decision? Anywhere else on the park that's a free-kick 10 times out of 10. How many times did they get away with subtle fouls on Gerrard today? Several of them crucial.

s@int wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Just on a side-note, I thought the referee was a f...u...c....k....i...n joke today. God knows what he was thinking on the penalty decision? Anywhere else on the park that's a free-kick 10 times out of 10. How many times did they get away with subtle fouls on Gerrard today? Several of them crucial.

I know we don't like to admit it but Gerrard is starting to get a rep for "going down too easily in the box" (diving if you want) I just think the ref thought he went over the player rather than was brought down.

It was a penalty, I have no doubts at all on that, but I think sometimes reps catch up with you.

bunglemark2 wrote:Tell the truth, I'm phucked off with Stevie G's antics in recent weeks. I'm pi$$ed off watching him dive time and time again. It's just a phuckin' disgrace from the captain of this club, and should in no way be acceptable.
Cop yerself on Gerrard...

Scottbot wrote:Game reminded me very much of our home match with Arsenal in Houllier's last season. I thought we played well in the first half but the final ball let us down every time as I fancied we could (and should) have been 2 up going into the break. We looked well and truly up for it but you always knew we needed a 2nd goal. As is usually the case with a side struggling for form and confidence, the moment they scored you could see the life and belief drain from the players (I know it drained out of me) and we simply lost it from there on in. For the final 20 minutes we were in complete disarray, we were hitting aimless long balls up to no-one, we completely lost our shape, and most of the lads looked a bit scared of the ball from there on in. some credit needs to go to Arsenal, I thought they came out and looked a different team in the 2nd half, they started contesting 2nd/3rd balls and managed to get their passing game going. Unfortunately, the whole thing had a feeling of inevitability about it. We all saw it coming and the most worrying thing about is, I expect the players did as well. I don't know what the manager can do to reverse this tailspin, obviously a win on Wednesday would be a start but he needs to string 4-5 wins on the bounce and the lads simply don't look like they've got it in them

woof woof ! wrote:Not talking about the pen that wasn't given Scott, Stevie had every right to complain about that.

What i'm not happy with is that top players get "fouled" all the time, some get on with it and some do a "Drogba", sometimes Stevie seems to be leaning more towards doing a Drogba than just getting on with it.

Ciggy wrote:dave M wrote.

The flow of negativity that's been streaming from the press, our support and the players over the last few months has led to this being one of my lowest points as a supporter. There's been events at the club that have been far more important and that have caused incomparable levels of sadness but, the way things are at the moment, the nature of our predicament, I've begun to question a lot of things. I feel like my belief in the cause has been a false belief. Not that my support is fradulent but that the cause itself is a lie; what it was supposed to mean to be a Red, the philosophical fabric of our fanbase, our solidarity exposed as a great big, dirty lie.

We've got fans turning on each other, ex players slagging off the manager in the press, current players allegedly doing it, a pair of owners that are in it for themselves getting away with it all whilst we pile into one another. It seems like everyone is in it for their own personal glory. Objectively, we've had lower points than this but we seem to be ripping ourselves apart, quick to assert our opinion, slow to consider the consequences of our collective actions. Our football club feels like it's dying and, if we're honest with ourselves, we can blame Gillett and Hicks as much as we like, but we're guilty in other ways.

Where the 's the solidarity in times of trouble? We're supposed to be different compared to fans of other clubs but we're not, we're just like every other generic, sky generation band of wits who seek quick solutions to difficult problems because they lack the patience and the forethought to consider the implications of their collective demands.

You'll Never Walk Alone? A sentimental lie. It means nothing, it's just a song but, to me, it meant something, I sang the words growing up and I meant them, I still do, but too many people are paying lip service to our past. It's usually the same ones that demand we're successful like we used to be which is quite an irony. We didn't become successful because of some magical event, we earned it, hard work, patience, planning, belief in the plan and the capacity to execute it.

It'll never be like that now, though, because when the path becomes a little bit tough, people their kecks and ask for a better map. When they get the map, they have to begin the journey afresh but, as soon as the new journey becomes a bit difficult, they once again their kecks and ask for a new map, over and over and over they repeat this fruitless process, seeking better, more pleasurable conditions. Rather than attempting to find the courage to walk on through the storm in the hope that the outcome is one worth fighting for, they seek shelter from the storm in a refuge that is worse than the storm they were heading into. Just thought I'd add my little bit of negativity to the problem. blame, stand and fight.