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by **7_Kewell** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:32 pm

DAV wrote:just for kewell as he cannot read
felix magath

righto

by **DAV** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:35 pm

do you want a link kewell to read up on him

by **Reg** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 pm

s@int wrote:
Reg wrote:Get over it son, life goes on.

but not our title challenge

Thats life mate, is anyone saying Shanks didnt have a bad season?

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 pm

DAV wrote:do you want a link kewell to read up on him

i know who he is. But why would you want him here? Please explain.

thanks

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:37 pm

Reg wrote:
s@int wrote:
Reg wrote:Get over it son, life goes on.

but not our title challenge

Thats life mate, is anyone saying Shanks didnt have a bad season?

i bet Steve Bruce wouldn't. He would win the league every year :laugh:

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:37 pm

NO doubt he is a top manager but if he would understand this league any more then Rafa did is a massive ask and I fear we end up being just a CL team agian I dunno tho Wenger managed it but its quite hit and miss tho and a gamble.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:38 pm

DAV wrote:Emerald Red
you can not count Aquilani ot for that matter Aurelio
so aquilani we new about him before we signed him and aurelio has been injury likley since we bort him.
we new and no both of the history of these guys.
so let get real you mean Torres, Gerrard,Agger, Mascherano, Johnson, Reira
5 players- 5 players is hard to be without, but the difference with us to other teams is in every postion of these guys we have n decent cover. Ngog,voronin lucas, that old greek guy. o please you are making out no other team can cope without injurys

No, I really do mean Aquilani and Aurelio. Last season Aurelio's form in the league was pivotal as was Xabi Alonso's. Who's Xabi's obvious replacement and who we know to have obvious talent? Aquilani. It's not Benitez's fault that Alonso wanted to f*ck off to Spain, is it? He handed in his transfer request FFS. Anyway, I'm confident that not only did Rafa buy a replacement, but a better player at that. He's more dynamic than Xabi ever was. But then again, when the heartbeat of the side leaves, it's never an easy task to replace it, and yes, I do believe Alonso was the heart of the team.

The way people are banging on in here, you'd think our first choice 11 was being battered week in, week out, when in reality the first 11 has yet to even have a run of two games to find its form.

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:40 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
DAV wrote:Emerald Red
you can not count Aquilani ot for that matter Aurelio
so aquilani we new about him before we signed him and aurelio has been injury likley since we bort him.
we new and no both of the history of these guys.
so let get real you mean Torres, Gerrard,Agger, Mascherano, Johnson, Reira
5 players- 5 players is hard to be without, but the difference with us to other teams is in every postion of these guys we have n decent cover. Ngog,voronin lucas, that old greek guy. o please you are making out no other team can cope without injurys

No, I really do mean Aquilani and Aurelio. Last season Aurelio's form in the league was pivotal as was Xabi Alonso's. Who's Xabi's obvious replacement and who we know to have obvious talent? Aquilani. It's not Benitez's fault that Alonso wanted to f*ck off to Spain, is it? He handed in his transfer request FFS. Anyway, I'm confident that not only did Rafa buy a replacement, but a better player at that. He's more dynamic than Xabi ever was. But then again, when the heartbeat of the side leaves, it's never an easy task to replace it, and yes, I do believe Alonso was the heart of the team.

The way people are banging on in here, you'd think our first choice 11 was being battered week in, week out, when in reality the first 11 has yet to even have a run of two games to find its form.

Not Rafas fault you mean fact rafa pimping Alonso off behind his back to land wonder maker Barry(got wonder maker of FM2010 lol) didn't :censored:

him off ? come on lets get back to planet football here for a secound and think about things.

by **DAV** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:41 pm

yes i will explain very simple.
as i said i do not scout the football world
and all you kept saying is "who would you have in charge"
As i said i could give a pointless answer with my limited knowledge"
you kept saying you still wanted a name
so i gave you one
simple as that, same as everyone else who have thrown a name on here. pointless.
Houlier rafa we had all heard of them they came.
their are people paid lots of money to make these tough choices, im not one of them
i just picked a guy with a bloody good track record,it means nothing. u just kept saying u wanted a name so i gave you one.

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:44 pm

DAV wrote:yes i will explain very simple.
as i said i do not scout the football world
and all you kept saying is "who would you have in charge"
As i said i could give a pointless answer with my limited knowledge"
you kept saying you still wanted a name
so i gave you one
simple as that, same as everyone else who have thrown a name on here. pointless.
Houlier rafa we had all heard of them they came.
their are people paid lots of money to make these tough choices, im not one of them
i just picked a guy with a bloody good track record,it means nothing. u just kept saying u wanted a name so i gave you one.

you want Rafa out, so i assumed you had some up with someone better. Clearly you haven't, and you want us to sack our best manager since Daglish because he's lost 5 games in the league.

Great idea, lets forget last season...

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:47 pm

Dazzer wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
DAV wrote:injurys are part of football, always have been. so point is invalid

It's not invalid when you have Torres, Gerrard, Aquilani, Agger, Mascherano, Johnson, Reira and Aurelio all injured. That's more or less a full team of class players that haven't had a consistent start to our season since it started.

So you say the squad depth comes into it? Well invariably so. But how much would it cost, or would it even be posible, to have fringe players of equal quality to those names that I just mentioned, and would they be content at sitting on the bench? It's not possible for various reasons. And before anyone mentions City or Chelsea, think!

I don't think the point or expectation is that in one fell swoop we would magically replace our entire cack bench with kwalitee. That's not going to happen, not even at Citeh.
The point is, over 5 years, Rafa has traded and what-not dozens of players, and we are still nowhere near having a quality second string. I don't want to hear the excuses about funds etc. 'cos it doesn't wash. For the millions spent on individual players, they have more or less been knee-jerk reactions to a crisis e.g. getting Keane in.....and just count the number of players have left as soon as they arrived, adding nothing at all to the team, and the overall quality of first and second string has stagnated. After all the players he has bought, can anybody say the level of quality has improved ? Are we stronger in depth ? No way near it....pathetic.

67 players mate 60 fecking 7.not like he not had a chance to build a squad let alone the team we have now.

I like to see what Wenger has done with same money over last 5 years ?Lets be truthful his youth team would give out first team a good game if not beat us.

ust for kewell as he cannot read
felix magath

Doubt he knows who he is tbh.

60 players, of which most were either bought for dirt cheap and then sold on for a profit or loaned out. One thing about Benitez is that when he knows he's made a dud buy, he quickly shifts them out and rarely at a loss. Yes, that includes Keane and Bellamy. Voronin? How much did he cost us again? Exactly.

If there's one thing Benitez doesn't get credit for, it's ballancing the books.

Cheer up: we could be doing worse. We could be, oh, I don't know...Spurs? Spunk millions upon millions on players and wages, with the promise to break into the top four (not even thinking about winning the league, but just top four material) and yet failing to do, season in, season out. Yes, Harry Redknapp. Sign him up.

by **Dazzer** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Dazzer wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
DAV wrote:injurys are part of football, always have been. so point is invalid

It's not invalid when you have Torres, Gerrard, Aquilani, Agger, Mascherano, Johnson, Reira and Aurelio all injured. That's more or less a full team of class players that haven't had a consistent start to our season since it started.

So you say the squad depth comes into it? Well invariably so. But how much would it cost, or would it even be posible, to have fringe players of equal quality to those names that I just mentioned, and would they be content at sitting on the bench? It's not possible for various reasons. And before anyone mentions City or Chelsea, think!

I don't think the point or expectation is that in one fell swoop we would magically replace our entire cack bench with kwalitee. That's not going to happen, not even at Citeh.
The point is, over 5 years, Rafa has traded and what-not dozens of players, and we are still nowhere near having a quality second string. I don't want to hear the excuses about funds etc. 'cos it doesn't wash. For the millions spent on individual players, they have more or less been knee-jerk reactions to a crisis e.g. getting Keane in.....and just count the number of players have left as soon as they arrived, adding nothing at all to the team, and the overall quality of first and second string has stagnated. After all the players he has bought, can anybody say the level of quality has improved ? Are we stronger in depth ? No way near it....pathetic.

67 players mate 60 fecking 7.not like he not had a chance to build a squad let alone the team we have now.

I like to see what Wenger has done with same money over last 5 years ?Lets be truthful his youth team would give out first team a good game if not beat us.

ust for kewell as he cannot read
felix magath

Doubt he knows who he is tbh.

60 players, of which most were either bought for dirt cheap and then sold on for a profit or loaned out. One thing about Benitez is that when he knows he's made a dud buy, he quickly shifts them out and rarely at a loss. Yes, that includes Keane and Bellamy. Voronin? How much did he cost us again? Exactly.

If there's one thing Benitez doesn't get credit for, it's ballancing the books.

Cheer up: we could be doing worse. We could be, oh, I don't know...Spurs? Spunk millions upon millions on players and wages, with the promise to break into the top four (not even thinking about winning the league, but just top four material) and yet failing to do, season in, season out. Yes, Harry Redknapp. Sign him up.

Red if you sat down in a room with Gerrard Carra Tompson Dalglish who ever and said Bruce , MON , Redknapp , Hodgson was sh.it managers they fecking laught you out the room you bloody t!t.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:49 pm

Voronin? How much did he cost us again? Exactly

Over a million quid signing on fee and £2million a year in wages. 67 Players x a signing on fee = a lot of money

by **DAV** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:49 pm

Kewell could you please read what i have posted now at least 5 times
i do not want RAFA sacked as we can not afford it, i want him to walk. howe many more posts do i have to make because you can not read

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:49 pm

To have the quality of our first choice 11 in the budget Rafa has had over 5 years is pretty much a fair acheivement IMO. If you were to buy both Torres and Gerrard now, you'd have blown the whole wad of 5 years, or close to it.

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