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GYBS wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:

GYBS wrote:cause reira is a true wide player as opposed to babel who is a forward that can play all across the front line so reira adds more options to the squad.

Well why doesn't Rafa go and sign a big target man who plays with his back to goal as an option?

cause maybe he doesnt want that option as has only just got rid of a target man as such .

No one is saying babel is ouotstadning and world class extra but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out and keeps contributed to the team pretty much the majority on the time - just look at two important games (mancs and Cl Quali)we have had this season and which two players have come up with the goods for us ? gerrard and torres no the much insulted and slagged off and aligned Kuyt and Babel - CL babel creating fro kuyt to score the winner and the manc game kuyt creating for babel to score the winner - so in my eyes and maybe other peoples eyes they are both contributing massivley to our season so far .

Lad, they play 40 odd games a season, I'd hope for £50,000 a week they could contribute a couple of times a season. The fact is, neither of those players are good enough.

Kuyt is decent as backup thats it.

I'm sick of the excuses to be honest. Kids making up daft excuses about how players can't control and pass because they're in a different country.

People bang on about the odd goal here and there and the odd assist. The fact is, these are the people who don't understand footy properly. It drives me insane, its the sunday league mentality.

The amount of moves that break down with these two players is absoloutely rediculous. Moves that could lead to goals with better players.

Goals are scored by a sequence of events, good players do good things at good times that lead to goals and defenders making mistakes. When players keep giving the ball away, as these two do then moves break down, it affects confidence, cohession and pressure on the other team. When that sequence of events is interupted by people like Kuyt and Babel giving the ball away needlessly then it becomes annoying.

Liverpool will never win a title with either of those players in the first 11. Simple as that.

Fo Dne wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:I just like fact Tho some people in here wrote babel off after his first season and i stood by him now who looks the fool not me thats for sure just show what clueless , hotheads they really are. 

And why's that? Because he had 30 good minutes against the mancs and scored a mishit shot?

Get a grip.

If he's such a great player why did Benitez go and sign Riera? Who incidently looks twice the player.

I suppose ya goin to give me this tripe about him being a forward playing out of position next?

I don't know what it is with you mate , give the kid a break its his second season , he hasn't done too shaby in his 2nd season , so know you're complaining about a mishit goal? Tell you what if babel had not hit that shot , we would have gotten 1 point and our only goal against them would still be an own goal and it would not change the fact that although we have dominated games with them , we still can't win

Fo Dne wrote:

GYBS wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:

GYBS wrote:cause reira is a true wide player as opposed to babel who is a forward that can play all across the front line so reira adds more options to the squad.

Well why doesn't Rafa go and sign a big target man who plays with his back to goal as an option?

cause maybe he doesnt want that option as has only just got rid of a target man as such .

No one is saying babel is ouotstadning and world class extra but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out and keeps contributed to the team pretty much the majority on the time - just look at two important games (mancs and Cl Quali)we have had this season and which two players have come up with the goods for us ? gerrard and torres no the much insulted and slagged off and aligned Kuyt and Babel - CL babel creating fro kuyt to score the winner and the manc game kuyt creating for babel to score the winner - so in my eyes and maybe other peoples eyes they are both contributing massivley to our season so far .

Lad, they play 40 odd games a season, I'd hope for £50,000 a week they could contribute a couple of times a season. The fact is, neither of those players are good enough.

Kuyt is decent as backup thats it.

I'm sick of the excuses to be honest. Kids making up daft excuses about how players can't control and pass because they're in a different country.

People bang on about the odd goal here and there and the odd assist. The fact is, these are the people who don't understand footy properly. It drives me insane, its the sunday league mentality.

The amount of moves that break down with these two players is absoloutely rediculous. Moves that could lead to goals with better players.

Goals are scored by a sequence of events, good players do good things at good times that lead to goals and defenders making mistakes. When players keep giving the ball away, as these two do then moves break down, it affects confidence, cohession and pressure on the other team. When that sequence of events is interupted by people like Kuyt and Babel giving the ball away needlessly then it becomes annoying.

Liverpool will never win a title with either of those players in the first 11. Simple as that.

Manchester united won a title , with wes brown , darren fletcher and john o shea .

So i suppose we'd win more with pennant and ashton in the side eh , yea right , what a well of knowledge you are stu . Back the players playing for the club , i doubt pennant could have done what babel did against arsenal , or kuyt on countless big games .

Fo Dne wrote:What a complete gang of clueless retards.

Tell you what, they're all great, we're so amazing, the only reason we don't win the league is because we're dead unlucky because we have a good enough manager and good enough players.

Have you lot heard yaselves? Seriously?

We've got 6 or 7 players who are good enough. The rest aren't, thats why we NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER even come close to challenging, can't you comprehend that?

Is that to complicated for you?

Fo Dne wrote:I'm sick of reading happy clappy lad from idiots who've never been to a game or kicked a ball in there life or done any sort of coaching at any level.

Its pathetic.

Like I said, the positive's there, we have 6 or 7 players who are good enough. The rest aren't. Simple as that lad.

Thats the reason we haven't won the league for 19 years and the reason we won't win the league this season, we have to many weak links that we can't compensate for. Simple as that. Come the end of the season, I'll be right again and we won't win the league, while all of you will be sitting there scratching your heads wondering why and saying how I couldn't possibly have known we weren't good enough.

I've had it all before with Sissoko, Carragher, Finnan, Keane, Phillips, Baros, Cisse, Babel, Hyypia etc etc. I'm tellin ya now, this team isn't good enough. Simple as that.

You can't tell your from your elbow

Toffeehater wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:I'm sick of reading happy clappy lad from idiots who've never been to a game or kicked a ball in there life or done any sort of coaching at any level.

Its pathetic.

Like I said, the positive's there, we have 6 or 7 players who are good enough. The rest aren't. Simple as that lad.

Thats the reason we haven't won the league for 19 years and the reason we won't win the league this season, we have to many weak links that we can't compensate for. Simple as that. Come the end of the season, I'll be right again and we won't win the league, while all of you will be sitting there scratching your heads wondering why and saying how I couldn't possibly have known we weren't good enough.

I've had it all before with Sissoko, Carragher, Finnan, Keane, Phillips, Baros, Cisse, Babel, Hyypia etc etc. I'm tellin ya now, this team isn't good enough. Simple as that.

You can't tell your from your elbow

GYBS wrote:also depends on what options rafa can bring of the bench as well - man utd and chelsea been lucky that they can swap liek for like and not loose strength in the starting line up when main players require resting - we havent had that chance but look like we are getting there .

lad.

Its all to do with that. If we had 11 players as good as Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Masherano and Reina we'd never have a problem.

End of.

Fo Dne wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Fo Dne wrote:I'm sick of reading happy clappy lad from idiots who've never been to a game or kicked a ball in there life or done any sort of coaching at any level.

Its pathetic.

Like I said, the positive's there, we have 6 or 7 players who are good enough. The rest aren't. Simple as that lad.

Thats the reason we haven't won the league for 19 years and the reason we won't win the league this season, we have to many weak links that we can't compensate for. Simple as that. Come the end of the season, I'll be right again and we won't win the league, while all of you will be sitting there scratching your heads wondering why and saying how I couldn't possibly have known we weren't good enough.

I've had it all before with Sissoko, Carragher, Finnan, Keane, Phillips, Baros, Cisse, Babel, Hyypia etc etc. I'm tellin ya now, this team isn't good enough. Simple as that.

You can't tell your from your elbow

Why can't I lad? Lets hear ya reasons.

If our teams so good, and we have enough good players to win the league why aren't we doing just that?