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lakes10 wrote:Hamann still feels that us coming back and winning the CL had nothing to do with Rafa, he says it was down to two of our players picking the team up at half time, the two players being Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard.
he said they gave the team belief that that could turn it around when Rafa was just standing there saying nothing.

stmichael wrote:The players should be f#cking ashamed of themselves, but the unfortunate thing is that Rafa is inevitably going to take the fall for this because it's easier to replace him than all the players who have so shamefully let him and us down.

Big Niall wrote:

Torres25 wrote:Spending what weve spent............weve spent about 30 million when u think about the money we have recouped this year

thats less then the mancs (again), chelsea(again), spurs(again), man city & round about the same as portsmouth & west ham

i still find it funny when people mention the money we have spent

Everton? Arsenal?

RUSHIE#9 wrote:I think we should seriously consider something that has been mentioned previously elsewhere. Allow Rafa at least another season but with a new assistant in the form of somebody like Aldo. He understands the club from a fans point of view, he'd be a good link between the players and Rafa with him being an ex player himself  and he may be able to help Rafa on transfers by suggesting whether or not a player will be in the right mold for the english game. Not to mention him being an ex striker helping our forward line find the back of the net more often.

I get the feeling that Rafa's concentration has been diverted from the team and performances not only by the boardroom troubles but by the fact that he seems to have been trying to do everything himself since Pako's departure. 

If as I suspect a change of manager is inevitable then I think that in the current climate it is hard to suggest a realistic front runner. The possible change of owners muddies the waters somewhat as we don't know what kind of man DIC (other than successful) would want.
Mourinho has the experience of winning the Premiership but truthfully how many of us could actually stomach having him in charge of the team after all that has gone on between him and the club in the past. Added to that the comments that Rafa's brand of football is very dull to watch, wasn't that one of the reasons that Roman got rid of Maureen, because he wanted to be entertained more?

As for the suggestion a couple of pages back of Southgate.

IF you weren't joking with that one what kind of special blend have you been smoking??

Reg wrote:

The_Rock wrote:

lakes10 wrote:Hamann still feels that us coming back and winning the CL had nothing to do with Rafa, he says it was down to two of our players picking the team up at half time, the two players being Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard.
he said they gave the team belief that that could turn it around when Rafa was just standing there saying nothing.

Let this put to the end the myth of rafa's brilliant motivation talk during halftime @ istanbul......

Rafa was never a motivator....he is just a coach....nothing more.

What a load of bollock-ini.

For example,pPicture Paris,  Reds against Roma.  3-0 down at half time.

You telling me that Kenny and Souness wouldnt have beaten the out of every player in the changing room. Bob would have had his say but it would have been down to the players - the role model leaders - Kenny/Souness, Gerrard/Carra to pick up the lads to win the game.

Logical?

I think what Hamann was saying that is was Gerrard/Carra beaten the out of the other player yo get them to play well for the next 45 mins.

I am not shocked by that, play with their hearts and the love for this club.

Sabre wrote:

s@int wrote:

RUSHIE#9 wrote:I think we should seriously consider something that has been mentioned previously elsewhere. Allow Rafa at least another season but with a new assistant in the form of somebody like Aldo. He understands the club from a fans point of view, he'd be a good link between the players and Rafa with him being an ex player himself  and he may be able to help Rafa on transfers by suggesting whether or not a player will be in the right mold for the english game. Not to mention him being an ex striker helping our forward line find the back of the net more often.

I get the feeling that Rafa's concentration has been diverted from the team and performances not only by the boardroom troubles but by the fact that he seems to have been trying to do everything himself since Pako's departure. 

If as I suspect a change of manager is inevitable then I think that in the current climate it is hard to suggest a realistic front runner. The possible change of owners muddies the waters somewhat as we don't know what kind of man DIC (other than successful) would want.
Mourinho has the experience of winning the Premiership but truthfully how many of us could actually stomach having him in charge of the team after all that has gone on between him and the club in the past. Added to that the comments that Rafa's brand of football is very dull to watch, wasn't that one of the reasons that Roman got rid of Maureen, because he wanted to be entertained more?

As for the suggestion a couple of pages back of Southgate.

IF you weren't joking with that one what kind of special blend have you been smoking??

I would agree with giving Rafa one more year if he took on an assistant. The problem is I don't think he will.

The truth is I don't really want to see him go, I just want him to change some of his methods. As I don't think he is going to change I think he may have to go.

Assistant as in, he has a lot of work and he must share the responsabilities?

or Assistant as in, "he should be told not to rotate and how to play in England".

If it's the latter, you'd rather want  to sáck him, because it's not arrogant to have a certain methodology, every manager has his book. If people want different methods, no assistant are needed, but another manager.