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Postby Number 9 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:18 am

lakes10 wrote:
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KennyisGod....still wrote:Jus to add insult to injury, aint it yankee designers that got the contract for the stadium and did i read somewhere its a yank owned firm that'll start construction?
Almost incestuous!!

not sure about that one, that company would already be in the uk and i dont know any that are here that he run.

Well lakes just because you dont know any lad it does not mean there are not any..does it?? :D

what i am saying mate is that they can not just bring a company over from the U.S to build it, they may use the company name but must us labour from the UK  unlees one of the jobs needs a skill that is not already in the uk.


anyway who ever builds it will make a loss so i hope his company do build it lol

Yeah and then you can anger manage all the brickies that get paid off! :D
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:40 am

lakes10 wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
KennyisGod....still wrote:Jus to add insult to injury, aint it yankee designers that got the contract for the stadium and did i read somewhere its a yank owned firm that'll start construction?
Almost incestuous!!

not sure about that one, that company would already be in the uk and i dont know any that are here that he run.

Well lakes just because you dont know any lad it does not mean there are not any..does it?? :D

what i am saying mate is that they can not just bring a company over from the U.S to build it, they may use the company name but must us labour from the UK  unlees one of the jobs needs a skill that is not already in the uk.


anyway who ever builds it will make a loss so i hope his company do build it lol

May well be a UK based firm thats contracted but whats the bet that it will built by the good folks from POLAND !
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Postby TwelthMan » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:36 am

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NANNY RED wrote:Just heard on MOTD that Hicks is a guest on radio 5 live tomorrow mornin at 9am wonder what lies hes gonna come out with this time

If that kunt told me it was -10 outside I'd still put me bikini on and wear factor 50.

Judging by your photo I think you need a wax sweetheart  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:25 am

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Sunday January 27, 2008
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Dubai International Capital remain intent on a takeover of Liverpool, regardless of their disappointment with the nature of the £350million refinancing deal with which the club's American owners have secured their immediate tenure there.
Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr announced the new 18-month 'market-rate' loan on Friday, the former describing it as 'a strong vote of confidence in the club's financial strength'. DIC, however, regard it as an expensive holding measure that will cost the club around £28m a year in interest, yet fail to solve Liverpool's requirement for significant new capital.


Underwritten by the Royal Bank of Scotland and US bank Wachovia, the loan provides limited additional resources for a club in need of significant investment in the playing staff and a new stadium expected to cost a further £300m. As Liverpool's total debt stood at £297m before the refinancing package was agreed, it delivers a maximum of £53m of new money. Around £20m is thought to have been used up by the arrangement fee on the new loan.
While concerned club officials insisted that £245m of the debt was placed against Hicks and Gillett's holding company Kop Football Limited, it is understood that interest payments will be made entirely from club income. As such these will swallow up almost all of Liverpool's projected profits for the 2007-08 financial year.

Though the banks required Hicks and Gillett to increase their personal guarantees on the debt to £225m, it is understood that the Americans have not spent any of their own money on the club with the £20m equity each had to inject into the new deal coming in the form of personal loans, repayable by the club to them in the event of a further takeover.

The new 71,000-capacity stadium at Stanley Park will not be realised without another large tranche of debt. Though the stadium design announced on Friday has been downgraded from architects HKS' original proposal, it is still expected to cost a total of £350m. A spokesman for Hicks said that £50m of that sum has already been spent on consultancy and design. Further planning permission is required on the new structure.

DIC consider the refinancing a waste of club money that could have been spent on the team or the stadium and attempted to prevent it by offering to buy the club for £500m last week. Sources at the Arab investment group insist that Hicks and Gillett indicated their intention to sell during takeover talks, but only after the new loan had gone through.

Led by Liverpool supporter Sameer Al Ansari, DIC thought it had agreed a deal to buy Liverpool in late 2006, only for majority shareholder David Moores to sell to Hicks and Gillett. The Americans paid £174.1m for the shares, taking on outstanding debts of £44.8m and undertaking not to borrow any money against the club. On Friday, Kop Football Limited restated that debt at £60m.

Hicks also moved to reassure Rafa Benítez of his 'continuing and enthusiastic support' as manager, after earlier admitting that he had talked with Jurgen Klinsmann about replacing the Spaniard. Benitez has said little about the refinancing, though he suggested his desired £17m full transfer of Javier Mascherano would have to be partially funded by Mohamed Sissoko's proposed sale to Juventus.

Asked last night if Hicks now intended to sell Liverpool, his spokesman said: 'Tom Hicks is not a seller of Liverpool Football Club and he is certainly in it for the long term.' He declined to comment on how interest payments on the £350m would be funded, how much new money would be available to Liverpool, or whether the owners had invested any of their own cash in the club. Gillett, unhappy with some of his partner's recent actions, has yet to comment publicly on the revised plans.
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:55 am

Anfield owners in crisis

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LIVERPOOL are praying a form of Merseyside GBH will come to their rescue — Gillett Backstabbing Hicks.

Anfield co-owner George Gillett brought his feud with partner Tom Hicks to the fore by refusing to publicly back a £350million refinancing deal.

Gillett signed up to the agreement before the February 5 deadline to protect his own investment — but privately he does not believe holding on to Liverpool is in the Americans' or the club's best interest.

His son, Foster, left his office at Melwood two weeks ago and there are no plans for his return.

It appeared Hicks had seen off the latest challenge from Dubai International Capital (DIC) by signing a debt-ridden agreement with the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia.

But takeover talks are continuing, with DIC not walking away as they sense the split between the owners leaves the door open for a £250m bid for the whole club — beginning with a fresh move to buy Hicks' share.

The Americans have an existing £105m debt secured against the club's assets.

And even though the pair claim to have obtained less borrowing than feared, Liverpool still face £450m worth of debts once they begin work on the new stadium (below).

As well as the £105m debt, they still need a £300m loan to build the stadium.

With interest payments in the region of £18m a year, a vast transfer kitty to challenge for the title before 2011 looks non-existent.

A Kop source admitted: "The fact is, under the current financial proposals, there isn't a hope of Liverpool challenging for the title until the new stadium is built in three years. It doesn't matter whether Rafa Benitez, Arsene Wenger or Sir Alex Ferguson is in charge. It's an impossible task."

The fragility of the Americans' reign continues to make them vulnerable to the renewed interest from DIC, especially as fundamental questions remain unanswered.

It has yet to be revealed how the latest £350m loan will be repaid within an 18-month deadline, since the new stadium will not be built until 2011.

Multi-million pound interest payments will also ensure any Champions League earnings are swiftly swallowed up.

And a top-four finish is no longer a ‘minimum acceptable requirement' at Anfield — it will be essential in order to prevent financial meltdown.

That has not stopped Hicks insisting funding will be available for players. But the fact that this will come straight from the banks ought to immediately concern Reds supporters.

Hicks is holding on, despite the manager, fans and even members of his own board wanting him out.

Questions have also been raised as to how long two more established figures will survive.

Chief executive Rick Parry and former chairman David Moores now feel like strangers at their own club.

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A year ago, Moores led a club £60m in debt, with a £300m bank loan the only realistic option to keep stadium plans on track. The chairman opted against this, fearing he would lack the funds to strengthen the squad. He sold to Hicks and Gillett, convinced the duo had deep pockets.

Instead, they have created a much worse scenario.

Having led the opposition to Hicks behind the scenes, Moores and Parry are attempting to win back the Kop fans who blame them for inviting the bogeyman into their club.

But the Anfield faithful are in no mood for forgiveness.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:54 am

Here we go again.:(
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:20 am

It's not over yet , Dic will buy these two bellends out and we can then get back to the usual sack rafa and rotation stuff.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:22 am

I think that DIC are still very much interested in buying LFC, otherwise they would have already made a statement denying these rumors.  And it seems that everyone has turned on Hicks.  I just hope that the stubborn pr!ck finally breaks and sells his shares to DIC.
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:23 am

s@int wrote:DIC consider the refinancing a waste of club money that could have been spent on the team or the stadium and attempted to prevent it by offering to buy the club for £500m last week. Sources at the Arab investment group insist that Hicks and Gillett indicated their intention to sell during takeover talks, but only after the new loan had gone through.

Oh dear how much does this @rsehole think we are worth, jesus christ.  :no
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:26 am

Tom Hicks will be interviewed on 5Live Sportsweek programme at 9am this morning.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:29 am

Ciggy wrote:Tom Hicks will be interviewed on 5Live Sportsweek programme at 9am this morning.

Don't expect anything else but bullsh!te.
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Postby Ciggy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:46 am

Dubai appoints striker in drive for Liverpool

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Last Updated: 12:17am GMT 27/01/2008

Dubai International Capital (DIC) is believed to be pressing ahead with an attempt to prise Liverpool Football Club out of American hands despite a £350m refinancing deal struck late last week.
# Liverpool bid may still kick off

DIC is understood to have engaged advisers including the City law firm Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer to assist it in the pursuit of Liverpool. Insiders said this weekend that officials from the Gulf state's investment vehicle had met with Tom Hicks and George Gillett, the joint-shareholders in Kop Football Holdings as recently as Friday.

Despite continued denials from Hicks and Gillett that they have any plans to sell the club, sources close to DIC said the investment group had continued to receive encouragement to make an offer for the club.

The intrigue surrounding the Americans' ownership of Liverpool reached fever pitch last week with the finalisation of a refinancing package worth £350m that should enable Liverpool to leave its Anfield home - where it beat Havant & Waterlooville in the FA Cup yesterday - and move to a new 71,000-seat stadium in Stanley Park.

It is understood that the latest refinancing, struck with lenders including Royal Bank of Scotland, may need to be replaced with a further package within the next 18 months.

DIC declined to comment, while spokesmen for Hicks and Gillett could not be reached last night.


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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:23 am

I have just heard the Hicks interview on 5 sport he made me sick the way he kept goin on about the stadium trying to win us over with his cheap talk as far as im concerned.

Made me laugh though when he said " its about time we put all this behind us now " whos he trying to :censored: kid

Message to Hicks the damage you have already done to my club lad , its two late to forget .
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:27 am

Don't believe the hype lads and lasses , it's all bullsh!t , he's a snake with nothing but lies spewing out of his fat gob. Where the feck is george ?
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:35 am

Igor Zidane wrote:Don't believe the hype lads and lasses , it's all bullsh!t , he's a snake with nothing but lies spewing out of his fat gob. Where the feck is george ?

The thing is though Igor your gonna get fans believing what he said thats the sad part . Did you hear the bit on Klinsman when he said well hes under contract at Bayern now so thats not in the picture anymore , and in the next sentence spoke about Raffa havin a contract for the next 2 years .
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