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by **Kharhaz** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:43 am

s@int wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
s@int wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
nobybob wrote:FROM A TEXAS RANGERS FAN TO LIVERPOOL FANS
28 liverdamage
Texas Rangers fans HAVE stopped buying tickets. Attendance is down 600,000 since he purchased the team. Hicks just lowers the payroll more and raises ticket prices for the few thousand that do still go to the games.

Hicks simply won’t be able to pull the same over there as he does here though (extreme example: relegation punishes your losers, revenue sharing gives more $ to our losers). So BOYCOTT!!! He will sell the team if you put a big enough dent in his wallet.

It looks like they are as stubborn as rafa and will not sell, indeed the fact that they have gone all out to refinance these loans to ensure the stadium will be built, I think shows promise. Ok, they didnt have the money to get straight on with things but my understanding is what happens in the stock market helps them to finance all that they have, and would I be right in thinking that typical lfc bad luck has joined the owners that has had a negative effect on the stock market? Im not totally sure because I get all dizzy when people mention numbers ! They are here for the long run, boycotting matches will cost the club more and set back everything that rafa has done so far as in if there is a boycott wages WILL be slashed and our best players just leave. If its true that the refinancing is sorted then thats our stadium under way. The deposit is there so the green light is lit. They have got off to a bad start no doubt about it, but the fact that they havent sold the club, which would have been the easy option, shows that perhaps they do want the club to succeed and that they want to be a part of it,they have stuck at it. Maybe we will hear something from them once all the refinancing doo dah is set in concrete as in they will sit there and answer a long list of questions that have gathered over the last few months.

Yeah they really want whats best for us....... Klinsmann...... Mascherano on his way out....... no transfer funds........what next no fkn stadium......or maybe just take funds out for their U.S. based teams.

Im trying to find a light at the end of the tunnel ! The last bit about taking money out of there US based teams sounds good. As for mascherano, 7 days left, I said before I think a sissoko deal will depend on keep the masch, I can only hope im right.

Lets try reading that again

Its one of those moments you wish you could say oh I was interrupted by a knock at the door ! but nope, just dumb !

by **tubby** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:48 am

So what now then after we are several hundren million in debt? How do they plan to generate money for new players? I wonder whats going through the heads of David Moores and Rick Parry right now.

Did that Q/A with Parry on LFC TV happen?

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:52 am

The thing is that the US economy is slowly depleting and many big businesses and rich people are moving out of the country, while Europe is only getting stronger financially. I would not be surprised if the owners started to invest heavily in LFC, they could be here for a long time.

by **nobybob** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:54 am

bavlondon wrote:So what now then after we are several hundren million in debt? How do they plan to generate money for new players? I wonder whats going through the heads of David Moores and Rick Parry right now.

Did that Q/A with Parry on LFC TV happen?

maybe we could try a TOMBOLA or a sponsord walk!
as for parry cant find anything on lfc tv surprise surprise.

by **Woollyback** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:06 am

has this new £350m loan been secured against the club's assets? if so then parry should do the decent thing and resign now. he let the yanks in on the back of promises of NEVER securing any of their own personal debts against our club. if things go t*ts up then it's them who laugh all the way to the bank and our club that ends up screwed by the banks. horrible horrible horrible. the yanks obviously won't give a toss cos they've got more front than blackpool but the morals & ethics of a sewer rat, but parry should be utterly ashamed of himself

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:07 am

bavlondon wrote:Did that Q/A with Parry on LFC TV happen?

No it was cancelled funny enough how convienent hey?

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:14 am

Woollyback wrote:has this new £350m loan been secured against the club's assets?

More or less just with a fancy name Kop Football Limited.

G & H have put up 40 million.

Strange thing is all they have is assets and if they sold all them assets they only have 950 million dollars between them.

And we are talking pounds here Im gutted wools just gutted.

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:23 am

whoever takes over we will end up hundreds of millions of pounds in debt, we want a new stadium so we (the club) should pay for it, as for the loans theyve taken out to buy us, from what ive read and ill wait till the press conference for confirmation, they are not going to be paid back by the club.

am i right in saying we where about 50 or 60 million in debt when they took over which they paid, well i think that is going to be paid back by the club.

where all hoping for someone else to come in and save us from this mess but we have to also accept the fact that we might end up stuck with these two guys, for this to work we have to have the new stadium and we have to be successful on and off the pitch, surely a situation we all benefit from, what we have to drum into these two clown is we want it done a certain way

by **laza** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:27 am

Ciggy wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Did that Q/A with Parry on LFC TV happen?

No it was cancelled funny enough how convienent hey?

Its funny how official site were quick to put up the Klinnsman story but have since reverted back to good old Saddam's Iraq minister of information ever since

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:29 am

We where only 40 million pound in debt before they bought us, it has now trebled and it will spiral out of control.
Noway can we afford new players and a new stadium we might not even finish 4th if that happen sell off assets, Gerrard, torres, to pay the loans 30 million a year.

Thats before we get the other 400 million loan for the new stadium :down:

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:32 am

Thinking about it, from DIC's point of view they can now take over the club AND the debt without incurring the wrath of the supporters. Maybe all they are waiting for now is H&G to sack Rafa before selling up. All the unpleasant nasty work is then out of the way, and DIC then come in on a wave of popularity with no unpleasant and supporter offending decisions still to be made. The majority of the debt will be secured against the club and they can just pick their own manager and stadium, sit back and smile.

Sorted

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:34 am

the problem is to many papers printing different sets of figures, i believe there will be a press conference (probably from the states

) either tomorrow or one day next week outlining where all the money is going and also announcing which stadium will be built, im sure it will be the hks one which i dont think will need planning permission.

by **The Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:37 am

Now it's up to Rafa to get this bunch of players to actually start finishing off games.

We've lost TWO in the Premiership which isn't a lot.

But we've drawn TEN. That's what costing us. We need Champions League qualification every season.

We need 4th place. The team MUST finish opponents off.

If we are leading Wigan 1-0 and we allow Titus Fooking Bramble to equalise costing us two points, there's not much Hicks and Gillett can do about that.

by **Kharhaz** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:42 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:Now it's up to Rafa to get this bunch of players to actually start finishing off games.

We've lost TWO in the Premiership which isn't a lot.

But we've drawn TEN. That's what costing us. We need Champions League qualification every season.

We need 4th place. The team MUST finish opponents off.

If we are leading Wigan 1-0 and we allow Titus Fooking Bramble to equalise costing us two points, there's not much Hicks and Gillett can do about that.

A problem thats been there for a long time. It seems that against these teams all the midfielders and players just cannot seem to get there shots past the keeper. Thus resulting in the keeper getting man of the match every bloody time.

by **TwelthMan** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:44 am

nobybob wrote:FROM A TEXAS RANGERS FAN TO LIVERPOOL FANS
28 liverdamage
Texas Rangers fans HAVE stopped buying tickets. Attendance is down 600,000 since he purchased the team. Hicks just lowers the payroll more and raises ticket prices for the few thousand that do still go to the games.

Hicks simply won’t be able to pull the same over there as he does here though (extreme example: relegation punishes your losers, revenue sharing gives more $ to our losers). So BOYCOTT!!! He will sell the team if you put a big enough dent in his wallet.

What about a big enough dent in his motor and his stoopid fat bonce? :idea

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