Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
Pedro Maradona wrote:Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
ohhhh ciggy ur verging on that thorny issue of racial stereotyping here....
just coz the lad missed the bus doesnt mean all surinamese are lazy!
LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
ohhhh ciggy ur verging on that thorny issue of racial stereotyping here....
just coz the lad missed the bus doesnt mean all surinamese are lazy!
'Some'.
bigmick wrote:To be fair to Lynds, she does say SOME surinamese are very lazy, not all. FWIW I think that all political correctness aside, your background and upbringing does have a lot to do with your outlook. I mean in New Zealand, (and I'm talking about white people here of European descent) people go through life as if there's no real rush to do anything. I had a sparky in the shop last Thursday to fix some lights, he said he didn't have one of the parts so he'd go get them and see me in the morning. He actually rolled in this morning (Wednesday) and fixed 'em. When I asked him where he'd been, he couldn't really see what my problem was, just kind of shrugged and grinned. Unbelieveable really.
If you ever go to the West Indies (I did once), people by and large just chill out and do things at half pace if at all. Does it mean all West Indians are lazy feckers? No, but it does mean that quite a lot of West Indian native paeople do things a lot slower and are more laid back that what we are used to. Similarly, if you ever go spend some time in Southern Ireland you'll find exactly the same thing. I do wish we could try and steer clear of instantly taking some kind of racial position the minute somebody mentions a persons nationality and background. I dare say German players by and large turn up on time, and when they do they never miss a penalty in training. It's just the way they are I guess.
Pedro Maradona wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
ohhhh ciggy ur verging on that thorny issue of racial stereotyping here....
just coz the lad missed the bus doesnt mean all surinamese are lazy!
'Some'.
ok.......
as in "some" irish are alcoholics?
as in "some" germans are efficient?
as in "some" latinos or are thieves?
its stereotyping and if you cant see it open your eyes!
you know what was being meant......dont try and gloss over it with symantics....
LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
ohhhh ciggy ur verging on that thorny issue of racial stereotyping here....
just coz the lad missed the bus doesnt mean all surinamese are lazy!
'Some'.
ok.......
as in "some" irish are alcoholics?
as in "some" germans are efficient?
as in "some" latinos or are thieves?
its stereotyping and if you cant see it open your eyes!
you know what was being meant......dont try and gloss over it with symantics....
It has absolutely nothing to do with semantics.
It's not stereotyping, Ciggy made a loose judgement drawn from her own experiences.
In her experience, she's found that some Surinamese are very lazy. Perhaps more so than people of different nationalities.
It's just a personal judgement, not a racial stereotype.
Open your eyes.
Pedro Maradona wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Pedro Maradona wrote:Ciggy wrote:Babel has recieved his last warning from Van Basten turn up late for training again and your out the squad.
He has done it twice swanning in for breakfast when the others were finished, but he doesnt even drink so its not like hes got a hangover some Surinamers are very lazy, my fella's mates daughter was seeing him but fecked him off aswell cause he didnt turn up on time to take her out for a meal.
ohhhh ciggy ur verging on that thorny issue of racial stereotyping here....
just coz the lad missed the bus doesnt mean all surinamese are lazy!
'Some'.
ok.......
as in "some" irish are alcoholics?
as in "some" germans are efficient?
as in "some" latinos or are thieves?
its stereotyping and if you cant see it open your eyes!
you know what was being meant......dont try and gloss over it with symantics....
It has absolutely nothing to do with semantics.
It's not stereotyping, Ciggy made a loose judgement drawn from her own experiences.
In her experience, she's found that some Surinamese are very lazy. Perhaps more so than people of different nationalities.
It's just a personal judgement, not a racial stereotype.
Open your eyes.
its a racial slur, maybe not intended but a slur nonetheless.
if i was surinamese i would have been offended.
not to be getting too deep but ciggy seems to be basing her experience on a conversation she had about one surinamese man whom she never actually met, i think thats a bit unfair dont you?
and you did use semantics...
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