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by **ConnO'var** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:21 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:Yeah, they should all make friends and hug.

One way or another, the whole bloody lot of 'em should have just kept this idiocy out of the press. Airing our dirty laudry like that....

Fools, the lot of 'em.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:50 am

Fuckin kipper on Parry after we had won unbelieveable.

by **Kukilon** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:03 am

Rafa did the right thing. The fans will love him for this since he risks his job for the sake of the club. If he hadn't done this we would probably have lost our targets and the owners would not have gotten any bad will for it. Rafa is a genius.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:19 am

Rift rumours persist after Rafael BenÍtez fails to get backing Oliver Kay

Liverpool were quick yesterday to dampen speculation that Tom Hicks, one of their co-owners, was preparing to sell his 50 per cent stake in the club, but that is just about the only emphatic statement from Anfield over the course of a week in which Rafael BenÍtez has been given no reassurances about his position at the club.

BenÍtez claimed yesterday that he is now “happy” with the situation at Liverpool, having sought to put his spat with Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the co-chairmen, behind him. BenÍtez has had no contact from the owners since the e-mail from Hicks that so enraged him nine days ago, and there remains concern at the club that fundamental problems are being ignored.

Foster Gillett, son of George, was appointed in the summer as a “linkman” between BenÍtez and the owners, based at the club’s training ground, but he has had little or no contact with the manager since returning to Merseyside on Wednesday after four weeks away. Rick Parry, the chief executive, is the other potential go-between, but his working relationship with BenÍtez remains uneasy, despite what the manager described as a “positive” two-hour meeting last Monday.

In a statement yesterday, Parry declared that reports that Hicks was preparing to sell his 50 per cent share-holding were “complete rubbish”, while the Texan was said to be “angered” by the claim. But there have been no such unequivocal statements or denials from Anfield or from the United States in response to reports about BenÍtez’s position.

It is no secret that the working relationship between Hicks and Gillett is running far from smoothly, but the pair are close to confirming a £500 million refinancing package. That deal, however, will take the club hundreds of millions of pounds into debt, another source of deep concern for Liverpool’s supporters at a time when their faith in the supposed American dream is being tested to the limit.

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I think this article gets close to the crux of the matter, why have no reassurances been given out about Rafa's future. Even a quick throwaway line from Parry denying any knowledge of plans to sack Rafa would be better than nothing. If Rafa's future rests on the one match against Marseille something is very wrong with our owners. Even the bitterest anti-Rafa brigade members would reserve judgement until the summer surely?

Even the most beleaguered managers usually get a vote of confidence and a few games to get things right. What the hell is Parry doing besides shopping for new ties?

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:28 am

Without a doubt rafa should have kept his grievances behind closed doors and sorted everything out with the owners rather than use the press. Since then everybody in the press have taken what he said and blown it all up and its just snowballed into more and more rubbish with every tom dick and harry having there own theory on what it means for liverpool fc as a whole and everyone jumping on the bandwagon as to columnists own theories by simply quoting a remark from rafa while adding there own opinion before rafas quote to make it seem totally different to what rafa actually meant. Then the tv news got suckered into believing the rubbish they were writing by hanging outside anfield with headlines like "BREAKING NEWS AFTER THE BREAK" and after the break the big news was well there isnt any. Without a doubt, the tabloids really do control what people believe.

by **Sabre** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:31 am

S@int

I think this article gets close to the crux of the matter, why have no reassurances been given out about Rafa's future. Even a quick throwaway line from Parry denying any knowledge of plans to sack Rafa would be better than nothing. If Rafa's future rests on the one match against Marseille something is very wrong with our owners. Even the bitterest anti-Rafa brigade members would reserve judgement until the summer surely?

Even the most beleaguered managers usually get a vote of confidence and a few games to get things right. What the hell is Parry doing besides shopping for new ties?

Maybe he hasn't received a reassurance because his position never was in danger. FWIW, it may be perfectly possible that the only thing that has happened has been a little discussion and a harsh statement about focusing into pitch matters, and talk about transfers later.

Maybe, all the talk about Rafa's days being counted was rubbish after all, we all know that the press don't need much to make up a lot of things.

FWIW, the best thing to do for the owners is just keeping silent in the press and improve communication with Rafa. Why? because right know we have a massive support for Rafa from the fans (even the antiRafa's), we have a squad that seems be getting on the right track, and we have a focused manager. We might be reinforced after all this "fight" after all. Bring on Bolton, then let's win in Reading, that's what Rafa and everybody must think about now. Let the press talk.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:32 am

Kharhaz wrote:Without a doubt rafa should have kept his grievances behind closed doors and sorted everything out with the owners rather than use the press. Since then everybody in the press have taken what he said and blown it all up and its just snowballed into more and more rubbish with every tom dick and harry having there own theory on what it means for liverpool fc as a whole and everyone jumping on the bandwagon as to columnists own theories by simply quoting a remark from rafa while adding there own opinion before rafas quote to make it seem totally different to what rafa actually meant. Then the tv news got suckered into believing the rubbish they were writing by hanging outside anfield with headlines like "BREAKING NEWS AFTER THE BREAK" and after the break the big news was well there isnt any. Without a doubt, the tabloids really do control what people believe.

How hard would it be to stop all the rumours though ? All it would take would be a short statement from Parry and the press would be all round Redknapps house instead of lined up outside Anfield.

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:37 am

Hes looking after no 1 Saint greedy :censored:

. hes not even thinking about the club or us . He sniffing the yanks :censored:

so much hes afraid to say anything concerned with Rafa . in case he does end up in a circus Mind you this is what this is becoming a :censored:

circus

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:37 am

Sabre wrote:S@int

I think this article gets close to the crux of the matter, why have no reassurances been given out about Rafa's future. Even a quick throwaway line from Parry denying any knowledge of plans to sack Rafa would be better than nothing. If Rafa's future rests on the one match against Marseille something is very wrong with our owners. Even the bitterest anti-Rafa brigade members would reserve judgement until the summer surely?

Even the most beleaguered managers usually get a vote of confidence and a few games to get things right. What the hell is Parry doing besides shopping for new ties?

Maybe he hasn't received a reassurance because his position never was in danger. FWIW, it may be perfectly possible that the only thing that has happened has been a little discussion and a harsh statement about focusing into pitch matters, and talk about transfers later.

Maybe, all the talk about Rafa's days being counted was rubbish after all, we all know that the press don't need much to make up a lot of things.

FWIW, the best thing to do for the owners is just keeping silent in the press and improve communication with Rafa. Why? because right know we have a massive support for Rafa from the fans (even the antiRafa's), we have a squad that seems be getting on the right track, and we have a focused manager. We might be reinforced after all this "fight" after all. Bring on Bolton, then let's win in Reading, that's what we Rafa and everybody must think about now. Let the press talk.

Thats basically bollox Sabre

Hicks gets caught up in a rumour and Parry is straight out with a statement. This situation with Rafa has been all over the press, we have had a march of fans , banners supporting Rafa at the match , articles all over the 'net and not a word from Parry about it.

If "all the talk about Rafa's days being counted was rubbish after all" why doesn't Parry just say so and then we can all get back to picking who we want in the transfer market.

by **Kharhaz** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:40 am

s@int wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Without a doubt rafa should have kept his grievances behind closed doors and sorted everything out with the owners rather than use the press. Since then everybody in the press have taken what he said and blown it all up and its just snowballed into more and more rubbish with every tom dick and harry having there own theory on what it means for liverpool fc as a whole and everyone jumping on the bandwagon as to columnists own theories by simply quoting a remark from rafa while adding there own opinion before rafas quote to make it seem totally different to what rafa actually meant. Then the tv news got suckered into believing the rubbish they were writing by hanging outside anfield with headlines like "BREAKING NEWS AFTER THE BREAK" and after the break the big news was well there isnt any. Without a doubt, the tabloids really do control what people believe.

How hard would it be to stop all the rumours though ? All it would take would be a short statement from Parry and the press would be all round Redknapps house instead of lined up outside Anfield.

Yeah would have solved a lot of problems but like I said earlier it would appear everyone at the club knows what parrys role is except parry !

by **The Manhattan Project** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:44 am

If this is just media bollox, then LFC have allowed it to continue by not slamming the door shut on these stories right from the start. Rick Parry should have released a simple statement like this:

"Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett wish to state with 100% certainty that Rafa's position at Liverpool is under no threat whatsoever".

And that should have been it.

by **Sabre** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:44 am

Because suddenly everybody is marching for Rafa, stopping the criticism on rotation (except our friend Bigmick) and stick together. If we end the controversy right now everybody will come back to the old moanings!

Let's keep things that way, so Parry, shut up!!

In all seriousness, I'm more calm now than I was 2 or 3 days ago. After all the reaction of the people, I can't see them firing Rafa. And I'm pretty sure that if the situation was irreversible, then Rafa wouldn't have made an effort to get things back to normal, which is the thing it seems to be happening. Right now, I don't fear for Rafa, Honestly.

If Parry says something about it, ok, let him do so, but I don't need it to be more calm. After all we all know every manager are reassured just before being sacked, so reassuarances do not mean much anyway

by **The Manhattan Project** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:45 am

Because suddenly everybody is marching for Rafa, stopping the criticism on rotation (except our friend Bigmick) and stick together. If we end the controversy right now everybody will come back to the old moanings!

A siege mentality is the best. It works for Man Utd.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:59 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:
Because suddenly everybody is marching for Rafa, stopping the criticism on rotation (except our friend Bigmick) and stick together. If we end the controversy right now everybody will come back to the old moanings!

A siege mentality is the best. It works for Man Utd.

A siege mentality would be great, unfortunately what we have is a cross between the French revolution and the peasants revolt.

We dont want Rafa saying "I am the manager" and some :censored:

of a player saying "not for long" like with Jol do we?

by **NANNY RED** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:04 am

Parrys son is at Wrexham and i know for a fact that a lot of money has come from Liverpool and is still being invested there. So lets hope the gob :censored:

ends up there aswell

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