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by **Cool Hand Luke** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:58 pm

These 3 games will decide how this whole saga turns out

11/12/2007 – Away to Marseille in Champions League
16/12/2007 – Home to Manchester United in the Premier League
19/12/2007 – Away to Chelsea in Carling Cup quarter final.

Best case scenario come the evening of 19/12/2007 is that we are in the last 16 of the Champions League, the Semi Finals of the Carling Cup and would have put some distance between ourselves and one of our title rivals and in the process put our names forward as genuine contenders for the title.

Worst case scenario we could be out of the Champions League, out of Carling Cup and have just lost to one our main rivals at home and affectively blown our title chances buy being 9 or even more points off the top before the turn of the year.

The next 3 weeks are likely to be the most pivotal in Rafael Benitez’s Liverpool career.

by **Ciggy** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:06 pm

Tom & George deny rumours that they are acting like a pair of Muppets and put their hands in their pocket for Rafa

by **Ciggy** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:15 pm

by **Dundalk** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:23 pm

They are brilliant :laugh:

by **destro** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:38 pm

How long until we form a F.C Liverpool break away club like Uniteds disgruntled fans did ? My how we laughed at them when the Glaziers took over their club and now it is their turn to laugh, ever since this speculation started I have had the clowns laughing at me about whats happening to us at the moment and thats only based on the paper talk and speculation !.

If any of this actually happens I am going to have to leave my job

by **Kharhaz** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:52 am

Ciggy wrote:Tom & George deny rumours that they are acting like a pair of Muppets and put their hands in their pocket for Rafa

Hicks: So, what have we bought again?
Gillett: Liverpool FC
Hicks: Whats the FC stand for?
Gillett: Fuck Cash !
Both: Oh hohohoho

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:30 am

Rafael Benítez calls temporary truce as fans plan show of solidarity
Oliver Kay

Liverpool supporters will stage a protest march this evening to signal their outrage at the possible dismissal of Rafael Benítez. The manager has in turn indicated that he is willing to make further concessions to the club’s American owners in the hope of keeping his job.

Benítez’s position remains perilous after recent clashes with the board over its perceived unwillingness to support him in the transfer market. The fallout is so serious that the relationship may prove to be beyond repair, but after what he called a positive meeting with Rick Parry, the chief executive, on Monday evening, Benítez has adopted a softer stance during the build-up to this evening’s Champions League match at home to FC Porto, eager to undo the damage inflicted by his reckless approach towards Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the owners, over the past week.

Benítez has accepted that he will have less money to spend than he had hoped during the January transfer window — assuming that he is still in charge — and has agreed to what he regards as a dilution of his role by leaving all transfer negotiations to Parry.

The Spaniard believes that, under these conditions, he will effectively be reduced to the role of head coach rather than manager, albeit not officially, but he will accept that if it helps to secure his position for the remainder of the season, even if a parting of the ways looks inevitable in the long term.

After his surly and critical statements of the past week, Benítez trod a diplomatic line as he stated repeatedly that his focus was on preparing his players for the match against Porto, when only victory will keep their chances of progressing to the knockout stages in their own hands, but sources close to the Liverpool manager said last night that he is horrified by the idea of being forced out of Anfield.

“Rafa knows there is interest in him from other clubs but, having been put in this situation, he will do whatever it takes to stay at Liverpool,” one source said. “He will accept being head coach. He might not like it, but he still loves the job, loves the club and loves the city. He does not want to be anywhere else and nor do his family.”

There has been a sense of shock at the manner in which Benítez’s position has come under threat and while there has been no word from Hicks or Gillett since a statement on Sunday that did nothing to deny the depth of their disenchantment with their manager, the Liverpool players know that they may be playing for more than the team’s immediate Champions League prospects against Porto this evening.Steven Gerrard, the captain, talked yesterday of “stuff going on behind the scenes”, while José Manuel Reina, the goalkeeper, said that “our commitment for the manager is really deep”.

Rather less deep is the affection of the Liverpool board, with Hicks having been particularly affronted by Benítez’s behaviour and recent public statements, but Liverpool fans intend to send a clear message to the owners this evening by showing their solidarity with Benítez in the form of a protest march from the nearby Sandon pub to Anfield.

Although the Americans will not be at the match — Gillett’s son, Foster, a director, may be — a fervent show of support for Benítez would at least give them something to think about.

“The vast majority of fans are appalled at the thought of axeing Rafa,” Les Lawson, the secretary of Liverpool Supporters’ Club, said. “It would be a massive mistake and a massive backward step for the club. Hicks and Gillett don’t know what they’re taking on if they take on Liverpool supporters.”
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I can't say I am happy if Rafa has to leave transfer negotiations in the hands of Parry, and I doubt it will help in the long term, but hopefully it will allow for a short term solution.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:17 am

Interesting...............

http://www.talklfc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32876

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:21 am

Everythings sorted out now

http://www.jibjab.com/starring_you/receipt/3523415

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:44 am

Speaking to me mum last night she reckons they wont sack him and all of this will blow over, she said its not and has never been the Liverpool way to sack a manager ecspecially not because of footballing reasons.
She told me to stop worrying and everything will be fine.

Mothers are always right.

by **Toffeehater** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:45 am

Ciggy wrote:Speaking to me mum last night she reckons they wont sack him and all of this will blow over, she said its not and has never been the Liverpool way to sack a manager ecspecially not because of footballing reasons.
She told me to stop worrying and everything will be fine.

Mothers are always right.

lol great mom , yea i guess so , moms are always right , really hope they don't sack rafa and if they do , it will be at the end of the season , and if we do nt win the premier league dis year

by **aabie** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:48 am

Rafa Benitez Press Conference | Pre Match Porto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWHn7sJe_Y

Rafa seems to be in a bit better mood this time.

by **zarababe** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:06 am

Ciggy wrote:Everythings sorted out now

http://www.jibjab.com/starring_you/receipt/3523415

Class

Reckon mum is right Ciggs - the media has blown this way over the top !

There would be untold damage to the club if he was forced to leave !

by **Roger Red Hat** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:33 am

I was horrified last night when I put Sky sports News on and Rafa was on, all talk of Porto been his last game and that made me shiver. lets hope he comes through this ok.

in Rafa we trust and all that!

by **DAV** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:24 am

Probabley not a popular view but look at it as a business, which it is. How can Hicks and Gillett consider giving more money to RB at this stage when the club could have a major loss in revenue if we do not qualify from the group stages of the champions league. Every business wants a return on investment before putting more money into the venture. I'm not saying sack RB and i'm not saying i agree with all thats is being said. But I do understand it, and can see why this is happening. Any company relys on a manager, and as far as Gillett and Hicks go they have invested heavley backing RB with the signings we have done. So if this latest bunch flop then who is to blame. "The Manager". Also employees should not discuss buisness matters openley like RB has done.

I say all depends on tonight and good look to us.

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