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by **48-1119859832** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:46 pm

Wantaway Inter Milan striker Obafemi Martins could be set for a dream move to the Premiership, with Liverpool leading the chase for the pacey Nigerian.

The 21 year old handed in a transfer request to the Nerazzurri just 3 days ago after Inter completed the signing of Argentinian Hernan Crespo from Chelsea, and has already attracted interest from Valencia,Liverpool, and Bayern Munich, however Martins has hinted that the Premiership would be his preferred destination.

Martins said " The Premiership is a great league and i have always said i want to play there at some point in my career. I will discuss with my agent tomorrow what will happen next as there have been a number of clubs in contact "

Inter have placed a £10 million price tag on a player rated as one of Africa's brightest young stars, and that has alerted Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez in particular.

At £10 million, he would fall just inside Liverpools transfer budget, and with Benitez seeking a striker capable of producing goals to push Liverpools title bid next season, Martins would fit the bill perfectly.

And with Liverpool mysteriously re-allocating Bolo Zendens squad number from 30 to 32, with 30 being the squad number Martins currently holds at the San Siro, speculation suggests a switch to Anfield could be in the offing for the young striker known as Obagoal.

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small footie site, but it makes for some interesting reading. :;):

by **JC_81** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:10 pm

Martins has been discussed before on here. I see him as a slightly better version of Cisse, his movement and link up play are slightly better, but basically he's all pace with little technique and erratic finishing. A no from me.

As for Kuyt, well I don't fancy him either but it still looks like he'll be coming to us if Benitez can sell off a few more squad men to raise the funds. If there's anyone else we're seriously considering then Benitez is keeping it very quiet.

by **48-1119859832** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:14 pm

john craig wrote:Martins has been discussed before on here.

So? It seems from a few sites that we are linked with him, so i thought I'd post it.

by **JC_81** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:19 pm

0asis wrote:
john craig wrote:Martins has been discussed before on here.

So? It seems from a few sites that we are linked with him, so i thought I'd post it.

I wasn't having a dig at you, just stating a fact. If I was having a dig then I'd tell you you should have posted that in the fu.cking Martins thread in the rumour mill section of the forum, instead of in the Kuyt thread where it sticks out like a sore thumb... since you brought it up.

by **bigmick** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:25 pm

john craig wrote:
0asis wrote:
john craig wrote:Martins has been discussed before on here.

So? It seems from a few sites that we are linked with him, so i thought I'd post it.

I wasn't having a dig at you, just stating a fact. If I was having a dig then I'd tell you you should have posted that in the fu.cking Martins thread in the rumour mill section of the forum, instead of in the Kuyt thread where it sticks out like a sore thumb... since you brought it up.

by **Paul C** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:31 pm

I'd prefer us to go for Dean Ashton, for £8-9m we could prize him away from West Ham :;):

by **aCe'** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:36 pm

Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

by **JC_81** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:38 pm

Paul C wrote:I'd prefer us to go for Dean Ashton, for £8-9m we could prize him away from West Ham

I like Ashton as a player and he's someone I'd definitely be considering. But firstly there's no way West Ham would let him go that cheap imo, with the way the English market is they'd be trying to squeeze about 12 million at least out of us I reckon. Secondly I'm not sure he's what we need THIS season. He lacks pace and if Bellamy got injured (we know he's not got the best injury record) then we've got no quick strikers on our books (I don't include Pongolle as I think he'll probably be sold or loaned out again). If we bring in a 4th striker and we're going to have to pay 10 million or more, then I'd prefer it to be someone with a decent turn of pace.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:50 pm

aCe' wrote:Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

trezeguet has scored plenty of goals over a long period of time in the italian league so he must be half decent but every time i`ve seen him i`ve never been that impressed to be honest.
he looks very ordinary for france and i cant remember the last time juventus as a team or trezeguet has impressed me in the champions league.
i havent seen enough of martins to really have a opinion but he does remind me a bit of stu daly who used to play for villa.
the diouf, morientes and cisse saga`s have left me very wary of foreign strikers with big reputations.
as probably the best striker we`ve ever had ian rush proved, just because you are exceptional in one league doesnt mean you will adapt to another. its definately horses for courses in the prem and thats why i like the signing of bellamy.

by **mikopool** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:00 pm

The Nigerian's agent Patrick Bastianelli told the Gazzetta dello Sport: 'He has offers from Tottenham, Newcastle, Portsmouth and Valencia.

espn.soccernet.com.

I doubt rafa is looking for a similar player to Cisse. Then again, he never fails to surprise me, I would welcome Martins for sure, but I don't really see it happening, same goes for Kuyt.

by **aCe'** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:05 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

trezeguet has scored plenty of goals over a long period of time in the italian league so he must be half decent but every time i`ve seen him i`ve never been that impressed to be honest.
he looks very ordinary for france and i cant remember the last time juventus as a team or trezeguet has impressed me in the champions league.
i havent seen enough of martins to really have a opinion but he does remind me a bit of stu daly who used to play for villa.
the diouf, morientes and cisse saga`s have left me very wary of foreign strikers with big reputations.
as probably the best striker we`ve ever had ian rush proved, just because you are exceptional in one league doesnt mean you will adapt to another. its definately horses for courses in the prem and thats why i like the signing of bellamy.

i see what you mean but... Kuyt is coming from a foreign league too, aparently everyone we'r linked to is !
Thing with Trezeguet is, he isnt one to impress you with his technical abilities or his wonder goals ; he's just one who can net a ball given half a decent chance ! i dont enjoy watching him play either but you have to give it to him ! he can score and score and score and score ! its just fascinating how he can score so many goals in the italian league and still not be seen by many as a player who would add much to a side with a goalscoring problem ! If he cant play sh!t but will score 25goals for us next season ! i say bring him ! if it means we pay 15 mill.. so be it ! atleast we know we'r getting quality !
+ in the world cup he was a substitute all along... how could you rate him based on that ! and he's scored bundles for Juve in the last 4 or 5 years....in the ChampionsLeague too !

by **Graeme Noble** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:06 pm

I hope we get Kuyt. Okay he played :censored:

in the world cup but so did Wayne Rooney imo.

by **Graeme Noble** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:09 pm

Dirk Kuyt's goal scoring records...

98-99 FC Utrecht 28 matches, 5 goals
99-00 FC Utrecht 33 matches, 6 goals
00-01 FC Utrecht 32 matches, 13 goals
01-02 FC Utrecht 34 matches, 7 goals
02-03 FC Utrecht 34 matches, 20 goals
03-04 Feyenoord 34 matches, 20 goals
04-05 Feyenoord 34 matches, 29 goals
05-06 Feyenoord 33 matches, 22 goals

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:25 pm

aCe' wrote:
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

trezeguet has scored plenty of goals over a long period of time in the italian league so he must be half decent but every time i`ve seen him i`ve never been that impressed to be honest.
he looks very ordinary for france and i cant remember the last time juventus as a team or trezeguet has impressed me in the champions league.
i havent seen enough of martins to really have a opinion but he does remind me a bit of stu daly who used to play for villa.
the diouf, morientes and cisse saga`s have left me very wary of foreign strikers with big reputations.
as probably the best striker we`ve ever had ian rush proved, just because you are exceptional in one league doesnt mean you will adapt to another. its definately horses for courses in the prem and thats why i like the signing of bellamy.

i see what you mean but... Kuyt is coming from a foreign league too, aparently everyone we'r linked to is !
Thing with Trezeguet is, he isnt one to impress you with his technical abilities or his wonder goals ; he's just one who can net a ball given half a decent chance ! i dont enjoy watching him play either but you have to give it to him ! he can score and score and score and score ! its just fascinating how he can score so many goals in the italian league and still not be seen by many as a player who would add much to a side with a goalscoring problem ! If he cant play sh!t but will score 25goals for us next season ! i say bring him ! if it means we pay 15 mill.. so be it ! atleast we know we'r getting quality !
+ in the world cup he was a substitute all along... how could you rate him based on that ! and he's scored bundles for Juve in the last 4 or 5 years....in the ChampionsLeague too !

i`m not basing my opinion of trezeguets form for france on the recent world cup mate, i`ve watched him for years and all he seems to do is miss sitters. he reminds me of a gallic andy cole, and like cole he should be praised for getting into goalscoring positions (an art in itself) but his conversion rate of chances is poor from what i`ve seen of him.
rafa seemed very interested in him a few weeks back so he must be decent, maybe i just catch his off days.
we probably are a striker light and whoever we bring in i will back to the hilt but after morientes (who i thought would be a massive success at anfield) i`ve lost confidence in foreign strikers. i dont even think schevchenko will do that well.

by **aCe'** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:35 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

trezeguet has scored plenty of goals over a long period of time in the italian league so he must be half decent but every time i`ve seen him i`ve never been that impressed to be honest.
he looks very ordinary for france and i cant remember the last time juventus as a team or trezeguet has impressed me in the champions league.
i havent seen enough of martins to really have a opinion but he does remind me a bit of stu daly who used to play for villa.
the diouf, morientes and cisse saga`s have left me very wary of foreign strikers with big reputations.
as probably the best striker we`ve ever had ian rush proved, just because you are exceptional in one league doesnt mean you will adapt to another. its definately horses for courses in the prem and thats why i like the signing of bellamy.

i see what you mean but... Kuyt is coming from a foreign league too, aparently everyone we'r linked to is !
Thing with Trezeguet is, he isnt one to impress you with his technical abilities or his wonder goals ; he's just one who can net a ball given half a decent chance ! i dont enjoy watching him play either but you have to give it to him ! he can score and score and score and score ! its just fascinating how he can score so many goals in the italian league and still not be seen by many as a player who would add much to a side with a goalscoring problem ! If he cant play sh!t but will score 25goals for us next season ! i say bring him ! if it means we pay 15 mill.. so be it ! atleast we know we'r getting quality !
+ in the world cup he was a substitute all along... how could you rate him based on that ! and he's scored bundles for Juve in the last 4 or 5 years....in the ChampionsLeague too !

i`m not basing my opinion of trezeguets form for france on the recent world cup mate, i`ve watched him for years and all he seems to do is miss sitters. he reminds me of a gallic andy cole, and like cole he should be praised for getting into goalscoring positions (an art in itself) but his conversion rate of chances is poor from what i`ve seen of him.
rafa seemed very interested in him a few weeks back so he must be decent, maybe i just catch his off days.
we probably are a striker light and whoever we bring in i will back to the hilt but after morientes (who i thought would be a massive success at anfield) i`ve lost confidence in foreign strikers. i dont even think schevchenko will do that well.

His convertion rate is poor ? probably the most prolific striker i have ever seen ! and you say his convertion rate is poor ?!
His record speaks for itself ! yea... probably that you catch him in his off days (not many he has but..yea makes more sense )! shevchenko is one of the best footballers in the world today, chances are he'll make it ... hope he doesnt do well !

TREZEGUET RECORD:

2001/2002: 37 starts (33 goals)
2002/2003: 28 starts (16 goals)
2003/2004: 35 starts (28 goals)
2004/2005: 23 starts (14 goals)
2005/2006: 38 starts (30 goals)

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