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by **florida_red** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:02 am

anybody see kuyt vs chelsea today? Thought it might be a better indication of his quality than playing out of position in the world cup or in the dutch league, I know it was just a friendly but..... any thoughts?

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:00 am

aCe' wrote:
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
aCe' wrote:Martins is not a better version of cisse ! i dont know why we'r linked to him but i think he'd be better off signing for a midtable club if he was to play in the prem. ! dont get me wrong, he had some good displays in that inter shirt but was never prolific, and will struggle to even get a place in our starting eleven !
Rafa mentioned that he had 5 or 6 players under consideration ! i just hope martins isnt one of them !
Trezeguet, if we could sign him would make the biggest impact imo, definitely a 20+goals/season striker . Kuyt, i dont rate him much but he has what it takes to score 20+ a season for us. Martins wouldnt net 10 if you ask me + we have pace in bellamy and i wouldnt fancy us pairing bellamy and martins EVER . both short, fast, cant hold up ball, and lose aerial battles to any opposition !
So.... Trezeguet said he'd discuss his future with Juventus tomorrow... if he decides to leave, and liverpool make a good bid, we can get him before ManUtd or Lyon do ! Kuyt made it clear he'd rather join Lierpool than he would ManUtd, Newcastle or Charlton, so if we can match their asking price, shouldnt be much negotiating from there !

trezeguet has scored plenty of goals over a long period of time in the italian league so he must be half decent but every time i`ve seen him i`ve never been that impressed to be honest.
he looks very ordinary for france and i cant remember the last time juventus as a team or trezeguet has impressed me in the champions league.
i havent seen enough of martins to really have a opinion but he does remind me a bit of stu daly who used to play for villa.
the diouf, morientes and cisse saga`s have left me very wary of foreign strikers with big reputations.
as probably the best striker we`ve ever had ian rush proved, just because you are exceptional in one league doesnt mean you will adapt to another. its definately horses for courses in the prem and thats why i like the signing of bellamy.

i see what you mean but... Kuyt is coming from a foreign league too, aparently everyone we'r linked to is !
Thing with Trezeguet is, he isnt one to impress you with his technical abilities or his wonder goals ; he's just one who can net a ball given half a decent chance ! i dont enjoy watching him play either but you have to give it to him ! he can score and score and score and score ! its just fascinating how he can score so many goals in the italian league and still not be seen by many as a player who would add much to a side with a goalscoring problem ! If he cant play sh!t but will score 25goals for us next season ! i say bring him ! if it means we pay 15 mill.. so be it ! atleast we know we'r getting quality !
+ in the world cup he was a substitute all along... how could you rate him based on that ! and he's scored bundles for Juve in the last 4 or 5 years....in the ChampionsLeague too !

i`m not basing my opinion of trezeguets form for france on the recent world cup mate, i`ve watched him for years and all he seems to do is miss sitters. he reminds me of a gallic andy cole, and like cole he should be praised for getting into goalscoring positions (an art in itself) but his conversion rate of chances is poor from what i`ve seen of him.
rafa seemed very interested in him a few weeks back so he must be decent, maybe i just catch his off days.
we probably are a striker light and whoever we bring in i will back to the hilt but after morientes (who i thought would be a massive success at anfield) i`ve lost confidence in foreign strikers. i dont even think schevchenko will do that well.

His convertion rate is poor ? probably the most prolific striker i have ever seen ! and you say his convertion rate is poor ?!
His record speaks for itself ! yea... probably that you catch him in his off days (not many he has but..yea makes more sense )! shevchenko is one of the best footballers in the world today, chances are he'll make it ... hope he doesnt do well !

TREZEGUET RECORD:

2001/2002: 37 starts (33 goals)
2002/2003: 28 starts (16 goals)
2003/2004: 35 starts (28 goals)
2004/2005: 23 starts (14 goals)
2005/2006: 38 starts (30 goals)

Those stats don't prove a conversion rate, they just show his goals per game average.

If you want accurate conversion rate you need to analyse his goals versus shots ratio

by **stmichael** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:05 pm

i'd only consider trezeguet if we had the option of taking him on loan for a year. at his age, we don't want to be tying him down on a ridiculously long contract on obscene wages.

by **Red H** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:25 pm

If the price is right come on down. We seem to be on a bit of a budget, which although regretable is sensible. The right player for the right price will, I hope sign before the end of the window. I guess we'll have to see who blinks first.

by **ALONSO** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:48 pm

I hope we do sign Kuyt he looks like a quality player whenever I've seen him play. Also we need competition for places upfront. Crouch has become casual I wonder if the wage packets and new girlfriend is going to his head and he's more interested in late night clubs rather than our success. He should be concentrating on improving the quality and power of his headers because tbh if crouch was 5 foot 10 he wouldn't be playing for Liverpool or England.

by **redmikey** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:07 pm

ALONSO wrote:I hope we do sign Kuyt he looks like a quality player whenever I've seen him play. Also we need competition for places upfront. Crouch has become casual I wonder if the wage packets and new girlfriend is going to his head and he's more interested in late night clubs rather than our success. He should be concentrating on improving the quality and power of his headers because tbh if crouch was 5 foot 10 he wouldn't be playing for Liverpool or England.

what a load of b@llocks

crouch has become casual ? is that because of the daft dance he did or because of the hat trick he scored

i would be glad to see crouch with more confidents and while i except your shout on his sponge neck muscles he is still vital for us linking up play, SG wouldn't of scored 20+ goals last season with out him, for me crouch needs to work harded than last year to prove that he can be consistant and score against manure again

as for dirk sh!te please rafa there must be better players out there he is just a white emile heskey,

martins has been pushed out of inter by there terrible purchases but do we need a small quick striker who will take time to adjust no

my shout is for yakubu big strong settled in the epl and while i am against signing players that aren't world class i think he could fit the bill for us and be at the right price

by **tommycockles** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:41 pm

redmikey wrote:my shout is for yakubu big strong settled in the epl and while i am against signing players that aren't world class i think he could fit the bill for us and be at the right price

Portsmouth have just had a 15m bid for Yakubu turned down so we'd have to go higher than that to land him. Considering we couldn't offer a couple more million for Alves i doubt we've got 5m+ to add to the 10m we have aside for Kuyt!!

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:44 pm

tommycockles wrote:
redmikey wrote:my shout is for yakubu big strong settled in the epl and while i am against signing players that aren't world class i think he could fit the bill for us and be at the right price

Portsmouth have just had a 15m bid for Yakubu turned down so we'd have to go higher than that to land him. Considering we couldn't offer a couple more million for Alves i doubt we've got 5m+ to add to the 10m we have aside for Kuyt!!

We could always offer them Diao

by **tommycockles** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:01 pm

s@int wrote:
tommycockles wrote:
redmikey wrote:my shout is for yakubu big strong settled in the epl and while i am against signing players that aren't world class i think he could fit the bill for us and be at the right price

Portsmouth have just had a 15m bid for Yakubu turned down so we'd have to go higher than that to land him. Considering we couldn't offer a couple more million for Alves i doubt we've got 5m+ to add to the 10m we have aside for Kuyt!!

We could always offer them Diao

yeah- i can't understand why they never bought him- or Birmingham!! Pure class!!!

by **alessandromagno** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:52 pm

I'll be glad to see Kuyt in an LFC shirt. The saga has continued long enough and Rafa seems to think he can contribute up front.

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:39 pm

Well rafa had better "get his skates on" cos' the way things are going we are gonna leave to late again then find his price will shoot up as it gets nearer to the transfer window closing. Then we will have a glut of clubs panicking, and trying to out bid each other...then the horse will bolt..and we might be left with an empty paddock?.....like last season.

by **GOAT** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:31 pm

Hopefully it could be done in the next few days

by **alessandromagno** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:17 am

All quiet on the Kuyt front at present. We badly need another striker before the season gets under way--either Kuyt or someone else.

by **Kopite-Jud** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:13 am

wats wrong with pongolle

by **bigmick** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:20 pm

Kopite-Jud wrote:wats wrong with pongolle

He isn't quite good enough for a top four team I'm afraid. Decent player and all that but not quite upto it at the very highest level. He'll make a good living out of the game and have a very happy career but it'll be at a mid-ranking club at best.

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