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To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:06 am wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Rafa and Houllier didn't seem to have trouble handling numerous games.

Rodgers is just suited to coaching mid-tier teams like Swansea or Sunderland who usually end up playing 1 game a week usually in the 2nd half of the season.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:06 pm wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Yakka, don't try and apologise for him, let's face it, we should have gone with the same team(less Skrtel) as Monday and changed for the FA cup game. There is plenty of time to rest players before the next PL match. The poor performance today wasn't due to too many matches but purely down to poor team selection and poor subs.

The_Rock » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:11 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:06 am wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Rafa and Houllier didn't seem to have trouble handling numerous games.

Rodgers is just suited to coaching mid-tier teams like Swansea or Sunderland who usually end up playing 1 game a week usually in the 2nd half of the season.

Rafa used to get lambasted for constantly rotating his team.

I think some people already have their heart set on the slow, painful and dangerous process of getting rid of the current manager and bringing a new one in? I certainly dont want to go through that as there is no guarantee whatsoever that such a change will bring success? As Ive said before, our freaky last season has left many with unrealistic expectations and this has clouded their judgement. Lets get behind the team and the manager and support the club and see what happens? We're in 3 cups and are in the top half of the table. Not ideal, but not too bad either...

Boocity » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:11 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:06 pm wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Yakka, don't try and apologise for him, let's face it, we should have gone with the same team(less Skrtel) as Monday and changed for the FA cup game. There is plenty of time to rest players before the next PL match. The poor performance today wasn't due to too many matches but purely down to poor team selection and poor subs.

I have to admit when I saw the starting XI pre match I did think it looked a bit negative especially considering we were playing the bottom side at home. You'd expect to see wing backs like Hendo and Moreno if we were playing away at Madrid and wanted to keep the game tight. We only really had 3 offensive players on the pitch.

Thommo's perm » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:15 pm wrote:I think some people already have their heart set on the slow, painful and dangerous process of getting rid of the current manager and bringing a new one in? I certainly dont want to go through that as there is no guarantee whatsoever that such a change will bring success? As Ive said before, our freaky last season has left many with unrealistic expectations and this has clouded their judgement. Lets get behind the team and the manager and support the club and see what happens? We're in 3 cups and are in the top half of the table. Not ideal, but not too bad either...

He would garner support if he would stop these stupid decisions, playing people out of position and constantly picking players on reputation and not for the good of the team. Whenever he gets it right and we seem to move forward he takes us backwards again, if he would only learn from this you could accept it but it wouldn't surprise me if he went with the same team as today in the next PL match to try and prove a point.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:06 pm wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Seriously mate if fatigue was an issue earlier ,it was introducing a player whose tired before the fucking  game starts. Rodgers changed a winning team that
looked like returning to a form of consistency by sacrificing all the energy we had seen against Swansea by moving Henderson to WB.

Either the man has an arrogance that is starting to look uglier and darker with every disappointment,or he has serious issues that need resolving post haste.
No player has ever been bigger than the club that owns them ,but I'm afraid its looking like Gerrard has started to buck that particular trend.

Boocity » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:24 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:15 pm wrote:I think some people already have their heart set on the slow, painful and dangerous process of getting rid of the current manager and bringing a new one in? I certainly dont want to go through that as there is no guarantee whatsoever that such a change will bring success? As Ive said before, our freaky last season has left many with unrealistic expectations and this has clouded their judgement. Lets get behind the team and the manager and support the club and see what happens? We're in 3 cups and are in the top half of the table. Not ideal, but not too bad either...

He would garner support if he would stop these stupid decisions, playing people out of position and constantly picking players on reputation and not for the good of the team. Whenever he gets it right and we seem to move forward he takes us backwards again, if he would only learn from this you could accept it but it wouldn't surprise me if he went with the same team as today in the next PL match to try and prove a point.

I am not saying hes right all the time as he does seem to make the same type of mistakes again. But getting rid of him now is not the answer and people shouldnt even be discussing it? We need confidence and support, not campaigns to get rid of the manager. Just look over the park at the state theyre in and the way they boo the team and the manager. He was the worlds best last season and now theyre talking about booting him out, to be replaced by Shteve McClaren

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:06 pm wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

This is what it means to manage a top club yakka. When you are in europe you have to deal with extra games and as per usual it has to literally pop up and smack that fooker square in the face before he realizes it.
Out of all his lame excuses this one is the worst.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:14 pm wrote:

The_Rock » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:11 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:06 am wrote:To be fair to him because we've had CL and league cup games to contend with we've played a hell of a lot of footy recently, in fact it's been relentless, just look at the amount of games (and the gaps between them) since we played Palace in late November -

Palace - 23rd Nov.
Ludogrets - 26th Nov       { 3 day gap }
Stoke - 29th Nov             { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 2nd Dec         { 3 day gap }
Sunderland - 6th Dec       { 4 day gap }
Basel - 9th Dec                { 3 day gap }
United - 14th Dec            { 5 day gap }
Bournemouth - 17th Dec  { 3 day gap }
Arsenal - 21st Dec            { 4 day gap }
Burnley - 26th Dec           { 5 day gap }
Swansea - 29th Dec          { 3 day gap }
Leicester - 1st Jan           { 3 day gap }

Rafa and Houllier didn't seem to have trouble handling numerous games.

Rodgers is just suited to coaching mid-tier teams like Swansea or Sunderland who usually end up playing 1 game a week usually in the 2nd half of the season.

Rafa used to get lambasted for constantly rotating his team.

The only similarities when comparing  Rafa to Rodgers is the tan he's been sporting of late ....Very Phil Brown 



Trying desperately hard to look Spanish



A defining light in the the reds rebirth ,pallid complexion an all 

Thommo's perm » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:33 am wrote:

Boocity » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:24 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:15 pm wrote:I think some people already have their heart set on the slow, painful and dangerous process of getting rid of the current manager and bringing a new one in? I certainly dont want to go through that as there is no guarantee whatsoever that such a change will bring success? As Ive said before, our freaky last season has left many with unrealistic expectations and this has clouded their judgement. Lets get behind the team and the manager and support the club and see what happens? We're in 3 cups and are in the top half of the table. Not ideal, but not too bad either...

He would garner support if he would stop these stupid decisions, playing people out of position and constantly picking players on reputation and not for the good of the team. Whenever he gets it right and we seem to move forward he takes us backwards again, if he would only learn from this you could accept it but it wouldn't surprise me if he went with the same team as today in the next PL match to try and prove a point.

I am not saying hes right all the time as he does seem to make the same type of mistakes again. But getting rid of him now is not the answer and people shouldnt even be discussing it? We need confidence and support, not campaigns to get rid of the manager. Just look over the park at the state theyre in and the way they boo the team and the manager. He was the worlds best last season and now theyre talking about booting him out, to be replaced by Shteve McClaren

The problems with Head Coaches like Martinez and Rodgers is just that they seem to live in a fantasy world where they just prefer to coach the attacking side of the game and totally ignore the defence.

The problems with ever$hit can be seen from a mile away. Martinez cannot organize a defence if his life depends on it. The reason why ever$hit had a good season last season is because Martinez brought in attacking flair to a defensive team. Balance. But the longer he stayed there...the more he ignored the defensive side of the game...and ever$hit are paying the price now.

Rodgers is a slightly better coach than Martinez. That is not saying much. These 2 coaches can never coach a top team unless they are willing to mend their philosophies.

The_Rock » Jan 1st, '15, 19:43 wrote:

Kash_Mountain » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:33 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Jan 1st, '15, 19:21 wrote:I apologise in advance for submitting Rodgers post match interview ,any one of a fragile nature ,or possibly if you have had to pay to watch that dross earlier today
should refrain from clicking on the below link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30650835

He knows he's going so couldn't care less   :no    . I just couldn't listen to the whole thing post match interview.  FSG will replace him in the summer, they are speaking to various people and will take their time in making sure the right man is found (unlike last time i.e. BR being appointed), DOF and Head Coach.

You sure about this ? Don't get me wrong, I hope you are right. Its just that FSG basically wants a "yes-man" who is good in coaching youth players and is pretty articulate in dealing with the press.

I just hope to god...we get rid of this clown.

I wouldn't say that they want a 'yes' man, they want the best for the club hence the investments (and loans etc they taken out) they've made to move the club forward. They have gotten over the shock of running a football club and recognise that mistakes were made early on by them. They are currently speaking with various people and will make big changes top down and will complete and implement all parts of this gradually. Full implementation is likely to be Summer. They will replace BR (unless things take a turn for the worse - even more than now, in which case their hands will be forced), they won't rush it like they did last time. The right person will be found.

The managers latest pearls

"It was interesting because we had a plan in place in terms of after the opponent scores or after we score – that five-minute spell where we have an idea
of what to do – and unfortunately we failed to do that "

Its also interesting that some managers actually make those plans materialize by playing their best players in their suited slots 

Last few weeks have been odd. Caused Utd plenty of problems but didn't take our chances and conceded silly goals. Should have beat Arsenal after bossing the game but again conceded silly goals. Were poor against Burnley but grab a win, and then great against Swansea with lots of positives, followed by this shoddy performance vs the team at the bottom. At the moment, it seems like 2 steps forward, 1 back. I've seen  positives recently which leave me thinking we've turned the corner, then it's followed by a performance which leaves me questioning things again.

We are still leaking in too many goals in my opinion. Lucky not to concede against Burnley and being 2-0 up today, you have want to be defensively sound as a team and not let the oppo a way back in again. I mean this was Leicester, bottom of the league, not a fightback by one of the top teams. We got 2-0 up and Rodgers should have shielded the defence by moving Gerrard out of there and tightening things up in front. Again, I think BR has a severe blind spot when it comes to the defensive side of the game and isn't very proactive and usually waits for something to happen before doing something