Liverpool FC Forum

Before I get into Brendan, let me talk about fsg first. They are better owners than their fellow yanks in Hicks and Gillet by miles. Those 2 conmen make them look like saints but nevertheless, they are not good enough owners to lead Liverpool back to glory simply because they don't have the financial strength of City, Chel, and manure. And what is their solution, buy young players with potential with a high resale value and I suspect they have drummed this into Brendan's head and the transfer committee. That's why half of the summer signings have been youngsters (Can, Manquillo, Origi, Markovic and Moreno). The rest are not kids (Lovren, Lallana, Balotelli and Lambert) but NONE of them make us fans excited. This is a flawed policy and will only make us finish mid table plus there are reports that Sterling has refused a new contract and R.Madrid are courting him. If it's true, then this signing young players thing is exploding in front of their faces. Are signing young players and appointing young managers been the mission of our rivals? Not a chance, manure for example appointed a 60+ year old Dutch legend as mgr and all they siginings have been matured players ie we're doing the opposite of what a successful club been doing. Unless fsg change this defective policy, there is no future for our beloved club regardless of who the manager is. Even if we have a Mourinho or Guardiola in charge and if the instructions to them in the transfer market is to sign kids, the mid table finish will still continue. So my message to fsg is, change or get out.

Brendan, managing a big club with high expectations is too much for him. He doesn't have the experience to be in the hot seat. He doesn't know how to defend and never will. This reason is enough for the sack. He overlooked the SAS and banked too much hope on Sturridge being fit enough. How could he replace the SAS with an old man and a nutcase still baffles me. He is now clueless on team selection and tactics and a quick turnaround is needed to save his job which I don't think will happen. Having said that, I don't believe in sacking him now because it is hard to find a suitable replacement for a big club while the season is in progress. We won't be relegated under him this season, so I would want him to be in charge till next May and find a manager at least in the calibre of Rafa to take over. If you appoint a mid table manager with a mid table mentality, you will finish mid table and that is what is happening to this club and we've done that with Hodgson. He is poor in the transfer market and have wasted 200+ million on average players since he came. Brendan has also ruined this club and set the clock back, we're out of the CL and we're spiraling down in the PL table. Even if fsg heavily funds him in the next window, no quality players will want to come.

Hope I am wrong but the O.T. game will be a lamb to the slaughter and I am hoping for a decent defeat with our heads held high.

Red Focus » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:32 am wrote:Before I get into Brendan, let me talk about fsg first. They are better owners than their fellow yanks in Hicks and Gillet by miles. Those 2 conmen make them look like saints but nevertheless, they are not good enough owners to lead Liverpool back to glory simply because they don't have the financial strength of City, Chel, and manure. And what is their solution, buy young players with potential with a high resale value and I suspect they have drummed this into Brendan's head and the transfer committee. That's why half of the summer signings have been youngsters (Can, Manquillo, Origi, Markovic and Moreno). The rest are not kids (Lovren, Lallana, Balotelli and Lambert) but NONE of them make us fans excited. This is a flawed policy and will only make us finish mid table plus there are reports that Sterling has refused a new contract and R.Madrid are courting him. If it's true, then this signing young players thing is exploding in front of their faces. Are signing young players and appointing young managers been the mission of our rivals? Not a chance, manure for example appointed a 60+ year old Dutch legend as mgr and all they siginings have been matured players ie we're doing the opposite of what a successful club been doing. Unless fsg change this defective policy, there is no future for our beloved club regardless of who the manager is. Even if we have a Mourinho or Guardiola in charge and if the instructions to them in the transfer market is to sign kids, the mid table finish will still continue. So my message to fsg is, change or get out.

Brendan, managing a big club with high expectations is too much for him. He doesn't have the experience to be in the hot seat. He doesn't know how to defend and never will. This reason is enough for the sack. He overlooked the SAS and banked too much hope on Sturridge being fit enough. How could he replace the SAS with an old man and a nutcase still baffles me. He is now clueless on team selection and tactics and a quick turnaround is needed to save his job which I don't think will happen. Having said that, I don't believe in sacking him now because it is hard to find a suitable replacement for a big club while the season is in progress. We won't be relegated under him this season, so I would want him to be in charge till next May and find a manager at least in the calibre of Rafa to take over. If you appoint a mid table manager with a mid table mentality, you will finish mid table and that is what is happening to this club and we've done that with Hodgson. He is poor in the transfer market and have wasted 200+ million on average players since he came. Brendan has also ruined this club and set the clock back, we're out of the CL and we're spiraling down in the PL table. Even if fsg heavily funds him in the next window, no quality players will want to come.

Hope I am wrong but the O.T. game will be a lamb to the slaughter and I am hoping for a decent defeat with our heads held high.

Good post.

sadly to say now reappointing rafa looks like a fantastic option.

Brad Jones in goal pretty much sums up the level of preperation that went into the squad in pre-season. People can blame the transfer committee if they like, but if I was Liverpool manager i'd have made sure that the committee signed me a goalkeeper so that A) I didn't need Mignolet in goal, and B) Brad Jones wasn't my only other option. With all due respect to Brad Jones, i'm not sure he should be anywhere near a team that had PL and CL aspirations.

He has to go

1)The players are not playing for him
2)He is picking the team not on merit (I think he picks the team on who has the biggest influence in the dressing room)
3)It seems there is serious problems among the coaching setup. Someone keeps posting the lineup online a day before the games (giving opposition managers more insights on our starting lineup)

He has lost the dressing room. I would even go as far as to say....he might have some problem with his coaches too.

FSG are not at fault for our poor peformances, stop blaming FSG.

They gave Brendan Rodgers 220m to spend

Rodgers f"cked up, end off

Serious questions need to be raised here .

What manager with a modicum of common sense would have thrown a player back into a position now practically 'empirically proven' he has no aptitude for   
What manager with a modicum of common sense would have thrown a player back into a position now practically 'empirically proven' he has no aptitude for 

OK another pertinent question :

What manager with a modicum of common sense would have thrown a player back into a position now practically 'empirically proven' he has no aptitude for 

Lets try another one then :

What manager with a modicum of common sense would have thrown a player back into a position now practically 'empirically proven' he has no aptitude for 

It seems the same question can be used for half our players ....if you get the gist ?

The thing that stands out for me is how completely and utterly ineffectual he has become. If u are long enough in football management, u will go thru bad patches. But its how u deal with it that separates the good from the great, or potentially great.

There is nothing he does, before, during or after a game that affects anything about the team's performance. That's scary!

What is more, his utter ineffectiveness, on the other hand, has the unfortunate unintended impact of transferring far too much burden on the young players, especially Sterling. And also the likes of Markovic, even Lovren.

He is a very talented manager and I would hate to see him go. Luckily for him, FSG are sports people and will look deep in analyzing the situation, but he needs to sort himself out, and fast.

He has to find things to snap the team out of the malaise that envelops it. Be it the refs, opposing managers, the press...Seems to me he has to create a siege mentality- us and them. There's nothing about how the team plays that reflects his philosophy, or any philosophy for that matter!!!

If he's not able to, then FSG need to write off the season and fire him asap....

When players see their manager fighting, they tend to adopt the same attitude!

Staying dignified on the sidelines or bench and looking cute in an Armani jacket just wont cut it!

I don't like Pardew for anything, but u have to admire how u fought thru things...

Look at the first goal today, Valencia cuts past 3, THREE LFC players standing to cross the ball

I still back him, the memory of our 6-0 away win at Newcastle, the 5-1 against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Everton and the 5-0 against Spurs are still fresh enough in my memory for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He seriously needs to start learning from his mistakes though.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:18 pm wrote:I still back him, the memory of our 6-0 away win at Newcastle, the 5-1 against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Everton and the 5-0 against Spurs are still fresh enough in my memory for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He seriously needs to start learning from his mistakes though.

Wake up sunshine. You are as deluded as Rodgers with that comment...

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Dec 14th, '14, 19:18 wrote:I still back him, the memory of our 6-0 away win at Newcastle, the 5-1 against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Everton and the 5-0 against Spurs are still fresh enough in my memory for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He seriously needs to start learning from his mistakes though.

Learning from his mistakes is what most have been saying, but also, as most have said (myself included), he is to arrogant, stubborn and egotistical to learn from his mistakes.

I'm really starting to think that there's something wrong. I don't know what, but something's going on behind the scenes and it's wrecking our season. Has BR fallen out with some of the players? Has there been a row between the new lads and the squad from last season?

I don't know what it is, but there's something not right here and the Mig mess is latest instalment.

Kash_Mountain » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:37 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Dec 14th, '14, 19:18 wrote:I still back him, the memory of our 6-0 away win at Newcastle, the 5-1 against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Everton and the 5-0 against Spurs are still fresh enough in my memory for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He seriously needs to start learning from his mistakes though.

Learning from his mistakes is what most have been saying, but also, as most have said (myself included), he is to arrogant, stubborn and egotistical to learn from his mistakes.

Brendan Rodgers watched Liverpool crumble to a 3-0 defeat at Manchester United and then admitted his men have lost the team ethos that nearly won them the title last year.

I do wish he would stop throwing up the bunting over this , Its sad when such glaring deficiencies are overlooked even after our bottle job against both Chelsea and Palace which handed City the title seem to have mirrored what's happened since ....Its all in the past ,much like our Champions League campaign ,our goals for column , the
career of Gerrard,and the managers credibility.

Kash_Mountain » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:37 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Dec 14th, '14, 19:18 wrote:I still back him, the memory of our 6-0 away win at Newcastle, the 5-1 against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Everton and the 5-0 against Spurs are still fresh enough in my memory for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He seriously needs to start learning from his mistakes though.

Learning from his mistakes is what most have been saying, but also, as most have said (myself included), he is to arrogant, stubborn and egotistical to learn from his mistakes.

I like him but if he continues to play Steven Gerrard as a DM he won't have a job for much longer.