TAKEOVER COMPLETE - H & G Finally Jibbed!

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Postby JBG » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:29 pm

Again, a major disclaimer: I dont have all the facts and I'm only giving my opinion on the alleged facts put out in the media. I havent seen Justice Floyd's judgements. I havent seen NSEV's contract. I could be wrong. But its becoming increasingly clear to me these past few days that NESV are in a very strong position and RBS have effectively bowed to the NESV sale process.

Say, for arguements sake, Hicks refinances or sells to Mill and RBS inexplicably decide to accept this. If NESV have the contract they claim they have, they can sue Hicks, Mill and RBS for an injunction/order having that process set aside and a declaration that they are the proper owners. And in my opinion, they would win.

I'm probably going to have egg on my face here but I think that the sale will go through with NESV today and next week NESV, RBS and the board will return to Justice Floyd seeking a declaratory order that the sale is complete. H&G will likey change strategy and pursue the board for damages for alleged breach of fidiciary duty and that litigation will drag on for months, with the case probably being settled out of court by the board's insurance company. That is probably the best case scenario available to the fans, not ideal, but we would be rid of H&G as of today and it would be left for the insurers to deal with them.

However, its entirely possible that Hicks will transfer monies to RBS today and try to reconstitute the board and pull out of the sale. That would involve another court case next week which Hicks is likely to lose and will probably rule that he has been in contempt of court. NESV would also argue that Hicks illegally usurped their contract and they would likely sue Hicks, Mill and RBS and have a court declaration that they are the owners.

You can all crucify me if I'm wrong but no matter what way I look at it, so long as NESV keep the stomach for the fight (and they said that they do) then they will win, win, win.

Then again, as one delightful member of this forum told me this week by PM, I'm nothing but a spud ****** and a failed lawyer.  :D
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:31 pm

Graeme Bailey: We have an update about the restraining order, confirming it has been withdrawn.

"A motion has been filed with the U.S. court seeking the lifting of the temporary restraining order," Keith Oliver, senior partner at London law firm Peters and Peters.

"That has been filed electronically. It has to be signed by the judge and will take effect formally after he signs the document."
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:32 pm

you gotta tell us which memeber now dude!!!

Loving it tho JBG, keeping us 'normal' people understanmd more whats going on
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Postby Redangel » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:32 pm

So , can the sale proceed once he has signed ?
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:35 pm

Redangel wrote:So , can the sale proceed once he has signed ?

Yeah but twit & tw@t are still contesting it.  The court case in texas will start shortly, with our lawyers & theirs.
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Postby Reg » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:35 pm

zarababe wrote:But the greatest blame must lie with the Premier League. What has befallen Liverpool is just one entry in a long catalogue of derelictions of duty by the league's governors. Over the past decade the Premier League has allowed English clubs to be acquired by a succession of dubious characters and financial predators. It has failed to ensure a reasonably level financial playing field across the league. The game's governors have shrugged their shoulders as sugar-daddy owners have pumped in money to buy quick success, putting immense financial pressures on smaller clubs that have attempted to compete. They have sat back while clubs have squandered vast television revenues on ludicrous transfer fees and grotesquely-inflated player wages. The majority of Premier League clubs are now running unsustainable losses and several have mortgaged their futures with staggering recklessness.

The lesson from the judicial torments of Liverpool supporters this week is that England's clubs need to be in the hands of the only individuals who have their long-term interests at heart: their fans. Germany has shown that this is possible. The Bundesliga authorities demand that all clubs are majority-owned by member associations and they are forbidden from spending profligately on player registrations and wages. This framework has delivered competitive football, reasonable ticket prices, profits for clubs and financial stability across the league.

The idea of implementing a similar structure in English club football has long been dismissed by the complacent and arrogant individuals who run the domestic game as a romantic dream. But supporters are beginning to wake up to the fact that something is rotten in the laissez-faire Premier League. Better a romantic dream, many now say, than the present financial nightmare.

Hopefully this will be a catalyst for full revamp of FA ownership regualtions.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:39 pm

"Mill Financial approached Premier League yesterday seeking approval under owners' and directors test."


Prem declined to put Mill through O&D test without direction from #LFC board. "We will continue to take direction from board"
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Postby Steve Crooks » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:39 pm

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Postby Steve Crooks » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:40 pm

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Postby Steve Crooks » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:41 pm

John Henry has arrived at Slaughter and May
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:42 pm

John Henry lookin very smart just turned up at Slaughter & may.
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Postby RedSi35 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:45 pm

Comeon John :D

Lets get this sorted for a great start to the weekend along with smashing the bitters on Sunday :D
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Postby Redangel » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:46 pm

John Henry has arrived at Slaughter and May's offices. Please God it is to sign the deal once the judge in Dallas has removed the order !
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Postby inglis5 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:47 pm

I think a lot of people are missing the obvious when thinking that Mill  Financial can simply give Hicks the money to pay off the loan. I'm no legal expert but from everything I have read, this can't be done.

If this was the case then everyone else who wanted to circumvent the sale process would have done this. Peter Lim only a couple of days ago could have just said - "here you go Tom, here is the money, you pay the loan and then sign the club over to me".

Only the Board can decide who the shares are sold to and the fact remains that the Board is committed to selling to NESV.

*gets on knees and prays that he is right* :)
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Postby Redangel » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:47 pm

Say your prayers and keep everything crossed !!
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