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by **neil** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:54 pm

tell ya what, theres never a dull moment with us

by **ste123lfc** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:00 am

SHOCKING TRANSCRIPT OF HICKS TELEPHONE CONVERSATION IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO KEEP LIVERPOOL FC.

Hicks and Gillett are seemingly making one last effort to keep Liverpool Fc. In a last desperate throw of the dice, Hicks called Ocean Finance yesterday and a transcript of the call has been leaked.

Ocean: Hello Ocean Finance, we’re the lender who will always lend, how can we help today?

Hicks: Hi, my name is Tom Hicks and I’m looking to consolidate my debts and raise extra finance.

Ocean: Well you’ve certainly come to the right place.

Hicks: That sounds great, well I’m looking for a loan in the region of 300 million pounds and need it quickly. I heard if you agree a loan then it’s in your bank the next working day, is that right?

Ocean: Erm, yes Mr Hicks but that’s a very large amount. What is the loan for?

Hicks: I have a business in Liverpool and need to pay off some bank debts. It’s a soccer franchise, the world’s greatest soccer franchise.

Ocean: Ok and how does your business make money, what are your income streams?

Hicks: We make money when our customers come to watch the games we play. We sell them seats in our stadium and we’re the greatest supported soccer franchise in the world. We have a waiting list of people who want to come and watch the games.

Ocean: Fantastic, so you sell out your seats for every game you play?

Hicks: Erm, well we’ve been hit by the recession and games on Thursday nights when there’s a lot on in Liverpool apparently. Our customer base is very loyal to us, they wave banners with my name on at every game and shout chants about me. I can’t work out what they say because of these regional accents they have but it’s encouraging.

Ocean: Oh, well what about any other income streams. How else does a soccer franchise make money?

Hicks: A franchise get’s bonuses each time it wins a trophy. We get the biggest bonuses when we expand into Europe and also bonuses when we come top of the pile of UK franchises. We’re the most successful team at this in the UK.

Ocean: Great, we may be on to something here. How many of these bonuses have you collected in the last 3 years?

Hicks: Erm, none but we have won an awful lot in the past and it’s only a matter of time. We’ve changed our manager and got some new high performing employees so this year could absolutely be our year.

Ocean: Ok, that sounds optimistic. How are your new employees doing so far this year?

Hicks: We got a brilliant young offensive star called Joey Cole. He is one of the best and every other franchise wanted him, he scores goals and makes assists aplenty. We had to pay £80,000 a week to get him but he’ll pay that back by helping us win the trophy bonuses.

Ocean: Ok, it’s always good to have the best employees. How many of these goals and assists has this gentleman made for you so far?

Hicks: It appears he hasn’t made any yet but it’s only a matter of time. He’s one of the best players in the world, our chief employee Mr Gerrard said he is.

Ocean: Can you tell me what security you can offer for a loan. What are your major assets?

Hicks: Well, we have a young man called Fernando Torres who is worth 70 million pounds. He is the world’s greatest offensive star and scores more goals than anyone.

Ocean: That’s impressive. I take it he was top scorer in your franchise league last year and is getting the goals for you this year?

Hicks: Well last year was difficult as players like Darren Bent had fantastic years but Fernando has so far scored a goal against West Brom who are a top level franchise.

Ocean: I’m going to have to speak to my superior Mr Hicks. I have your details and don’t feel you need to contact us, we’ll contact you.

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by **NANNY RED** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:02 am

Ciggy wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Reg wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:He most likely will attempt to sue the existing board and possibly the club for undervaluing the club and selling for way below what he believes will be the true value of he club thus causing him to incur the loss of the £140m that he and Gillett put up in guarantees against the loans and are supposedly owed by the club to Kop Cayman. This is the reason Hicks is having to make such a song and a dance about it now and has to go to court with it as it will help him build up his case for later.

This is fascinating, its turning into a real game of chess. Sadly, its going to become very expensive and I fear both sides will dump their legal costs onto the club P&L.

Hicks will focus on added value and income, Broughton will focus on the amount of investment needed to get us back to the top.

Would love to there in the court as these two slug it out.

Ill guarentee you Reg that Kiradi is involved somewhere in his dodgy dealing with this an all , he was a front putting in a bid,and how many more of his mates have put in false bids , the fu.cking snake in the grass ,

Someones saying on RAWK Cancer & Aids want to bring the case to an American Courtroom because Kop Delaware is in America.

Would this be aloud to happen? Its sounds crazy.

Cant see it Cigg , surely it has to be in an English court of law ,
i read a post on Rawk before and feckin hell i cant find it now makes sence with wHY HICKS is going all the way,
hang on ill find it

by **Reg** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:07 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Reg wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:He most likely will attempt to sue the existing board and possibly the club for undervaluing the club and selling for way below what he believes will be the true value of he club thus causing him to incur the loss of the £140m that he and Gillett put up in guarantees against the loans and are supposedly owed by the club to Kop Cayman. This is the reason Hicks is having to make such a song and a dance about it now and has to go to court with it as it will help him build up his case for later.

This is fascinating, its turning into a real game of chess. Sadly, its going to become very expensive and I fear both sides will dump their legal costs onto the club P&L.

Hicks will focus on added value and income, Broughton will focus on the amount of investment needed to get us back to the top.

Would love to there in the court as these two slug it out.

Ill guarentee you Reg that Kiradi is involved somewhere in his dodgy dealing with this an all , he was a front putting in a bid,and how many more of his mates have put in false bids , the fu.cking snake in the grass ,

Someones saying on RAWK Cancer & Aids want to bring the case to an American Courtroom because Kop Delaware is in America.

Would this be aloud to happen? Its sounds crazy.

Cant see it Cigg , surely it has to be in an English court of law ,
i read a post on Rawk before and feckin hell i cant find it now makes sence with wHY HICKS is going all the way,
hang on ill find it

Shouldnt be too complicated, under what law were the deals contracted, US or English? Bit silly to be even questionning it.

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:08 am

here you are ,

Quote from: belfast-connection on Today at 06:10:34 PM

all this nonsense about whether the board completed a valid sale or not is just that - it's nonsense it's presentational :censored:

and bluster and it masks, for now, hick's true intentions hicks wants more money and he knows he can't get in on the open market therefore he wants to sue the directors to say that they sold his asset (shares) at an undervalue in order to do that he has to make a fuss about it at this stage - hence his pretence in sacking the board and making a song and dance about it but neither he nor broughton expect hicks to win that case

it's the next case that they're both thinking about - i.e. when the high court say that the board took a technically legal decision hicks can then bring an action claiming that the decision, whilst technically legally was flawed in substance, resulted in a sale at an undervalue and lost him a lot of money due to the incompetence and breach of fiduciary duty of the directors and chairman

but in order to set that 2nd case up properly hicks has to go through the motions of calling his directors all the incompetent :censored:

of the day and making it clear that he's not happy with what they have done otherwise when he gets into the box to complain about the valuation of the sale in his damages claim the first question he will be asked will be something along the lines of 'well if you thought the sale undervalued the club, why didn't you do anything about it?'

that's what next weeks court case is all about - presentational bluster the real meat will come when hicks launches another suit claiming incompetence and breach of duty for selling it so low it's why hicks' statements in the last week have focussed on the value of the club and why broughton has been at pains to point out that the value they got was validly fixed in the market place everything else is just strategic posturing with that bigger picture in mind.

Hopefully Broughton and the board can point to the lack of offers at the ridiculously quoted asking price - although Hicks will probably have something from Kirdi offering £600 million or something like that.

by **Reg** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:09 am

Broughton in teh Telegraph:

''If the case goes against us, we do have a fallback position, but we're not prepared to discuss this at present.''

Bring on the fanshare.... and you want my money you Tw@t you can come and get it.......

by **dundreamin** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:09 am

When the architects of the supposedly new stadium were being drawn up. I witnessed what these :censored:

where. They had a 4 day :censored:

up on OUR EXPENSE. and thats all the hicks posse done for 18 months. If i knew then what i know now. Hicks would be gone. Carnt tell you why but a CERTAIN American woman was involved. And it was,nt his wife. The fat ugly c.unt the very bad face of capitalism. Let's hope there not all the same

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:16 am

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid29318049001?bctid=627302395001

:nod

by **laza** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:20 am

Lee J wrote:have ya noticed how much better we're all getting along since this news has happened?

I haven't told a single person to fuk right off at all in the last 2 days either.

we seem... happier.

Fornicate off LeeJ your rose coloured happy clapper

by **Reg** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:32 am

NANNY RED wrote:Hopefully Broughton and the board can point to the lack of offers at the ridiculously quoted asking price - although Hicks will probably have something from Kirdi offering £600 million or something like that.

£600 million from someone who is easily proven (certainly demonstrated) to be a fake isnt worth diddly-bo squat.

Get Saddam into the dock under oath and grill him about T&T's involvement in his bid, the amount of genuine research and negotiation he undertook etc.. and it would fall apart within minutes.

by **dundreamin** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:32 am

Come on people follow me onto the HAPPY BUS destination ANFIELD via Boston!! :;):

by **laza** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:39 am

Speaking of everyone getting along, its great to see many supportive comments from Manchester U fans on some of skysports site stories. Of course once the evil captialists have been defeated it will be back to icepicks in the back of head for inferior reds

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:44 am

I just cant wait for the Day when i go the match, and in the pub before you talk footie ,what you thing the team will be , you dive in the ground . get behind the lads sing your heart out , weather weve won or lost its back to the pub and dissgussions again , and not one was about finace, leverged buyouts, banks broker houses ,it was just football and you had a luagh / i just cant wait for that day again

by **laza** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:46 am

NANNY RED wrote:I just cant wait for the Day when i go the match, and in the pub before you talk footie ,what you thing the team will be , you dive in the ground . get behind the lads sing your heart out , weather weve won or lost its back to the pub and dissgussions again , and not one was about finace, leverged buyouts, banks broker houses ,it was just football and you had a luagh / i just cant wait for that day again

Too bloody right

by **Octsky** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:55 am

zarababe wrote:
JBG wrote:You can bet your house that MB has an undertaking from Hicks, despite what Hicks has been saying.

I'll wager anything that Hicks' argument that the undertaking is to sell the club for a reasonable price and he'll argue that the price is not reasonable.

If its very messy the court will likely show some sympathy to the shareholders and could well adjourn the matter for a few months to allow both sides (in reality Hicks) come up with more evidence as to the manner in which the undertaking was given and what it really means.

Ultimately I still feel that MB will win and even if Hicks gets the matter adjourned for more arguement he still has RBS and the 15th Oct. hanging over him. However, Hicks is coming from a very weak bargaining position and will hope that dragging the matter through the courts (even though he's likely to ultimately lose) will give him more breathing space.

But if RBS call in the loan - does it end there as in defaulting on the loan would relinquish any adjournment decision, since he will have broken the terms of his refinancing contract?

So either way he won't win right?

and I bet ya RBS are ready to call it in - now that NEVS are in the scene, that must be the game plan - reveal the hand by the baord, show how numpty these are being.. and sell it to them either way !

either way hicks will lose.
if the court favors the NEVS, hicks lose.

if the court delay the sale, come 15th, RBS take club as collateral and sell to NEVS, hicks still lose.

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