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Postby zarababe » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:31 pm

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Borrow ? That's very clear they have no money ...[/quote]
They have over a billion dollars as a sports company mate - the loans will be leveraged by themselves and against further ownings from the new stadium - it happens with everyone and how they build new stadium .[/quote]
This is unbelievable news - heard that by the Derby the club woudl have new owners... and manager (?)

Really pleased - lets not forget Ars.e borrowed to build the Emirates- these have enuff financial muscle to re-develop/ build Anfield. Annd that would be good

Chuffed with Broughton, Purslow and Ayres - leadership of Broughton has been emense.. anno much faith has been lost - but I believe that the nightmare is hopefully going to be over re: H&G - and Broughton's own reputataion will rest on this !

He has asked us to kep the faith - tha the best owners havebeen found.. NOW COME ON LETS SUPPORT BROUGHTON & CO and get the new boys in :buttrock
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:33 pm

Liverpool fans will be praying that prospective new owner John W Henry can replicate the impact he had at Boston Red Sox - by quickly winning the Premier League title to end a drought which seems certain to stretch up to at least 22 years.

The Red Sox had gone 84 years without winning the World Series when Henry and his partners - former CEO of the San Diego Padres Larry Lucchino and TV producer Tom Werner - bought the team in 2002 for a record $690 million. Henry was the principal owner, Werner the chairman and Lucchino again the CEO. New England Sports Ventures was established as the holding company, which owns 80% of the Red Sox, and it is now 10th in Forbes' list of the most valuable sports brands.

Within two years that drought was over as they won the World Series for first time since 1918, success which was repeated in 2007.

"Win a World Series? That's not my choice, it's my role, it's my obligation to New England," Henry said when taking charge. "That's what I've been charged with. When you bid on the Red Sox, the challenge you're undertaking is nothing short of winning the World Series."

Henry made his fortune in hedge funds and the global futures market, and is chairman of John W. Henry & Company, Inc., with a reported wealth of $860 million (£540 million) in 2006 - before the credit crunch hit. His companies have hit problems in the economic downturn with huge loses reported by Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal.

Henry - now one of the most powerful men in baseball who serves on MLB's Executive Council, various MLB committees and is on the board of MLB.com - and his team were originally seen as carpetbaggers, opportunistic buyers who would look to exploit the name of the Red Sox. But those fears proved to be false as both Henry and Lucchino moved to New England to lead from the front.

The Red Sox's greatest rivals are the New York Yankees, who are coincidentally tied in with Manchester United, and were once described by Lucchino as the "Evil Empire". Liverpool fans would be delighted if one of the club's new administrators referred to United in such terms. That the Red Sox toppled the Yankees' dominance provides another element of symmetry which Liverpool fans would love to see.

Henry, 61, was also careful to observe the traditions of the Red Sox, opting not to move to a brand new stadium and keeping the team at Fenway Park, one of baseball's oldest ballparks. The ground was completely renovated to bring it up to modern standards, fitting in more seats but also charging the highest prices for home tickets in the sport. The Red Sox enjoyed record attendances and television ratings, though their games were broadcast on their own New England Sports Network - a model which could not be replicated in the Premier League with its collective rights sold to Sky Sports and ESPN.

The Red Sox became the second most lucrative franchise in MLB and also had the second biggest wage bill behind the Yankees.

Henry set up the Red Sox Foundation, the official team charity, which has donated over £30 million to non-profit programs aimed at health, education, recreation and social service for children and their families in the local area. The Sox owners, staff, players and fans all support the scheme.

"He has been very popular in Boston," Peter Abraham, the Boston Globe's Red Sox reporter, told the Liverpool Daily Post. "The Sox have the second oldest stadium in baseball and he has fixed it up better than people thought he would. He spent more than people thought he would, I would imagine probably $50 million, if not more.

"Henry is a very statistics-minded man from his business. The people he has hired have all been young, very smart guys."

Sabermetrics, the analysis of baseball through in-game stats, was one of his key tactics for success. The Red Sox picked up under-valued players and turned them into stars and also stopped handing out long contracts to veteran players, something which is already common in football. watch out Arsenal!

Theo Epstein was hired as general manager and was responsible for the trades and signings which made them champions.

Liverpool's new ground is expected to cost far more than the $50 million spent by Henry on Fenway Park, more like £400 million, and they are not in a position to pay the same respect to Anfield as they look to keep up with the revenue streams enjoyed by Arsenal and Manchester United. But in moving to a new ground as mooted, in Stanley Park, it is expected Henry will take the club's history and the iconic nature of Anfield into consideration.

"I certainly identify with the fans," Henry said when buying the Red Sox, "because I've been one my entire life." He may not have the same ties to Liverpool, but he should understand supporters better than Hicks or Gillett ever could. Henry regularly seeks the views of the fans on how to move the franchise forward.

However, he abandoned his first baseball team, the Florida Marlins, after he could not secure sufficient backing to move the team to a new ballpark. Considering Liverpool's troubles over their move to a new ground he will have to hope the same problem does not arise.

Henry - who once had a small stake in the Yankees in 1991 - also owns a 50% stake in the Roush Fenway Racing team, bought in 2007, with the NASCAR team winning their first Daytona 500 in 2009 with Matt Kenseth.

He married Linda Pizzuti in June 2009 and they are currently expecting their first child.

While Liverpool fans could be forgiven for being apprehensive at being bought out by another American after such a disastrous three years, the initial signs are positive. Any deal which removes the albatross of leveraged debt is a good start.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:33 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
crim cram wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
ruskiy playmaker wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:I don't want another YANKS OWNER ... enough for the last 3 years with H and G ... We should learn from this ... what we need now someone like Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan or Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum to clear the debt, build new stadium and money to buy new players ...

Why would you want Arab owners?  They own like half of England already.

Nothing to do with politics, race or religion ... but it seems that they are the one that got more money ...

When we had Kraft vs. DIC bidding for the club, just before H&G swooped, I was asked (on the walk into Anfield) by some Locals if I wanted Kraft since he was American( as am I),  I said I want the guy who's going to put the most money into the club, doesn't matter where they come from.  I might have said something different before Chelsea, but they changed the landscape forever, now Man City's done a Chelsea - I wish we could all be happy with a conscientious owner who listens to fans blah blah blah, but the truth is, to compete now, you need more money than a club (any club) can turn over.  If clubs like Chelsea and Man city are prepared to lose 200 million+ a year, you will need an owner who is prepared to take financial losses in order to win.

In every business yes you need an investment but you also need to do it correctly ... look at Chelsea at least we won something last season and look at Man City , with the investment on the World Class Manager and Some World Class Players , they manage to beat Chelsea last match ...

They just threw millions upon millions at the club to try and totally buy success - i dont want to see us do that . Both of those clubs made massive losses last season and will continue to make massive losses that they wont be able to sustain over the long term unless they tone it down - the spending has stopped at chelsea and will stop at man city - they have to be self sufficent . We made more money than both of them last season and will make more than them every single season . How long do you think they can operate on 100 million losses every season . I would rather have long term goals and aim than try and win something in the short term and cripple yourself .
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:34 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
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LiverpoolMadman wrote:Is there any special reason why Martin Broughton choose John W Henry NOT to other bidders ? Who is other bidders ?

Not sure who the other bidders were except they were from Asia - but i think he may well of picked NESV due to their history in sports .

That is NOT good enough ... and I don't trust Martin Broughton because he is a Chelsea Fan ... Maybe the other bidders have more cash ready and more money than John W Henry ... He worry that if he choose the bidders that got more money Chelsea will lose out next season ...

Its not always just about money mate - track record is a very good marker . Look at what Broughton has done to the two tw@ts - that means he is looking after the best interests of the club - ignore tha fact he is a chelsea fan - thats just trying to look for negatives . Broughton Purlsow and Ayres refused to let them finance that for me shows they can be trusted to act in good faith .

or maybe he wants quick sale of the club, just to get his bonus ... I think if he manage to sell the club before the deadline , he will get 500 000,.... if that is true , I would said that "desperate sell" ...
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:35 pm

roberto green wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
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Benny The Noon wrote:And i think lakes is secretly devastated that he knew nothing about it before it was announced :D

well only me and a few other know the truth about that mate lol

you going to tell everyone that you knew about it for weeks and have had to keep it quiet  :talktothehand

Lakes PM me the other week telling me about the sale, he also told me that Broughton had involved our Lakes and was leaving the overall decision with Lakes on who our new owners was going to be.


:D

:laugh:

Lakes knew nothing and its funny as feck when you consider every rumour he has said on here
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:36 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Is there any special reason why Martin Broughton choose John W Henry NOT to other bidders ? Who is other bidders ?

Not sure who the other bidders were except they were from Asia - but i think he may well of picked NESV due to their history in sports .

That is NOT good enough ... and I don't trust Martin Broughton because he is a Chelsea Fan ... Maybe the other bidders have more cash ready and more money than John W Henry ... He worry that if he choose the bidders that got more money Chelsea will lose out next season ...

Its not always just about money mate - track record is a very good marker . Look at what Broughton has done to the two tw@ts - that means he is looking after the best interests of the club - ignore tha fact he is a chelsea fan - thats just trying to look for negatives . Broughton Purlsow and Ayres refused to let them finance that for me shows they can be trusted to act in good faith .

or maybe he wants quick sale of the club, just to get his bonus ... I think if he manage to sell the club before the deadline , he will get 500 000,.... if that is true , I would said that "desperate sell" ...

There is more than just him thou - there is two other people who had a say - why look for alternative motives behind it . i have not heard of any bonus .
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Postby Zidane » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:39 pm

I'm pretty optimistic about these owners, they turned around Boston dramatically in a short period of time and have tried very hard to maintain their level of play.  On top of that Boston and Liverpool have a lot of similiarities from the fans love for the team, the history and even the city's mindset.  It's funny because recently I saw a movie and was talking to my bird about how both cities have a lot of things in common.. it's strange that their owners would be the ones to buy us.  Hoping that this all goes through pending the court debacle.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:40 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Is there any special reason why Martin Broughton choose John W Henry NOT to other bidders ? Who is other bidders ?

Not sure who the other bidders were except they were from Asia - but i think he may well of picked NESV due to their history in sports .

That is NOT good enough ... and I don't trust Martin Broughton because he is a Chelsea Fan ... Maybe the other bidders have more cash ready and more money than John W Henry ... He worry that if he choose the bidders that got more money Chelsea will lose out next season ...

Its not always just about money mate - track record is a very good marker . Look at what Broughton has done to the two tw@ts - that means he is looking after the best interests of the club - ignore tha fact he is a chelsea fan - thats just trying to look for negatives . Broughton Purlsow and Ayres refused to let them finance that for me shows they can be trusted to act in good faith .

or maybe he wants quick sale of the club, just to get his bonus ... I think if he manage to sell the club before the deadline , he will get 500 000,.... if that is true , I would said that "desperate sell" ...

There is more than just him thou - there is two other people who had a say - why look for alternative motives behind it . i have not heard of any bonus .

CHARLES SALE: Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton could land £500k bonus if he helps sell club

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport....b6pQsEr
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Postby zarababe » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:40 pm

Ciggy wrote:Stadium re-development is good news, hopefull that buries the groundshare for ever.

This is not over yet though Hicks & Gillet are going to kick up a right stink this and next week. I will be over the moon if they have lost their own money and walk away with feck all  :laugh:

I can't believe they tried to sack Ayres and Purslow, to put their own on the board- what a bunch of snakes.. they are so focused on making money 

Well Broughton is well in there and confiednt of sale and leagsl being sorted out in a week's time.

It says a lost when the official site announces such goin-ons.. lets picket the courts now REDS  :buttrock
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:41 pm

This man is representing Hicks and Gillett to stop the sale - http://www.weil.com/michaelfrancies/
There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:43 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:There is more than just him thou - there is two other people who had a say - why look for alternative motives behind it . i have not heard of any bonus .

CHARLES SALE: Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton could land £500k bonus if he helps sell club

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport....b6pQsEr[/quote]
If it goes through then he has earnt it - every single penny of that bonus and i will have no complaints in him taking the bonus .It will be worth it - one thing you have forgotten is that the owners have to go through a fit and proper test with the prem - they will investigate everything and give the final say . Yes its right to be cautious but i think its right to finally trust him and the other two .
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Postby zarababe » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:43 pm

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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:43 pm

Ciggy wrote:This man is representing Hicks and Gillett to stop the sale - http://www.weil.com/michaelfrancies/

IS he a Liverpool Fan ?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:44 pm

Ciggy wrote:This man is representing Hicks and Gillett to stop the sale - http://www.weil.com/michaelfrancies/

Lets get the e mails going .
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