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Postby lakes10 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:22 pm

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lakes10 wrote:news coming in to the media that Huang bid has been turned down by the club (talkshit) due to lack of backing.

any of you got info on this??? I have only read it on a media news forum.

Bullsh!t imo lakes.

You didn't answer my question the other day mate. Where do you get your info from regarding Huangs finances. Who his backers are/aren't and how are you the only person in the whole wide world (apart from kenny himself that is ) with this info , because no media outlet has it mate . FACT.

sorry mate did not see your post, it might not look like it but not been on here much...other things going on.

the other info i take you are asking about was sourceby the BBC via reuters canada

Thought as much , they didn't have the info either. It was sh!te distributed by Gillett . The only people who will no who huangs backers are will be huang and now possibly broughton as they have delivered the first bid . According to Bamba. The next couple of day's we will see mate . Oh and Tony BARRET (THE TIMES) has just reiterated on radio merseyside that Huang is in pole position to win .

In my own view mate got to say its not looking good for any of the bids, if all this info is right that none of them can show they have the funds or backing.

back to the same place we was lasy year.
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Postby NANNY RED » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:25 pm

Richard Buxton. Published Thu 12 Aug 2010 19:32, Last updated: 2010-08-12
Martin Broughton has yet to receive any bids from Kenny Huang's consortium
Martin Broughton has yet to receive any bids from Kenny Huang's consortium

Chinese businessman Kenny Huang believes that his consortium have a chance of "about 50%" of winning control of Liverpool, with a deal expected as early as October.

Following weeks of intense speculation, the former Wall Street stockbroker has broken his silence in a rare interview in his homeland during which he confirmed that the Anfield board had accepted his group's proposals.

However Huang, 46, insisted that no bid has been submitted to chairman Martin Broughton, the club or its lenders and that the group had 'some way to go' before they would be able to table an offer for George Gillett and Tom Hicks' shares.

"Our interest in buying LFC has been recognised by the board," he said.

"At the same time, we have continued our work - researching and evaluating, the overall progress is good. However, there are quite a number of strong competitors. So there are still a lot of unknowns.

"We have put forward many proposals and we have the answer: the board has accepted our proposal and wish us to continue the process. We have a reply in less than 10 days.

"There is still some way to go. It was that we asked the board to let us know whether our proposal would be overall acceptable and the board has said yes."

Huang also revealed that investors from the Middle East and North America are battling against him in the race to takeover the club with any successful deals set to be finalised in October, when the Royal Bank of Scotland plan to recall Liverpool's £237million debt.

The Anfield board, including Gillett and Hicks, are expected to meet to discuss any potential offers on the table before Liverpool kick off their Barclays Premier League campaign with Arsenal this Sunda

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Postby lakes10 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:29 pm

so lets get this right... a very top and confident business man, a real go getter think he only has 50% chance of doing the deal, thatys 50 % that he is not going to do the deal....think we are getting to see the real person now.

lies and lies.
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Postby Waldo » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:34 pm

I hope that tomorrow when I wake up with a huang-over we have been bought. I am going out for a chinese tomorrow night so maybe that's a good omen!!
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Postby lakes10 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:39 pm

Waldo wrote:I hope that tomorrow when I wake up with a huang-over we have been bought. I am going out for a chinese tomorrow night so maybe that's a good omen!!

no mate but you might end up after your chinese with the same result as the club if we are taken over by the chinese ...a very sore :censored:
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Postby NANNY RED » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:42 pm

Lakes read his words

"There is still some way to go. It was that we asked the board to let us know whether our proposal would be overall acceptable and the board has said yes."

Whats wrong about that , hes asked would there proposal be acceptable and the man from Del Monte . HE SAY YES
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:47 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Waldo wrote:I hope that tomorrow when I wake up with a huang-over we have been bought. I am going out for a chinese tomorrow night so maybe that's a good omen!!

no mate but you might end up after your chinese with the same result as the club if we are taken over by the chinese ...a very sore :censored:

i think you should consider going to a different take away  :laugh:
“You cannot transfer the heart and soul of Liverpool Football Club, although I am sure there are many clubs who would like to buy it.”
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Postby Igor Zidane » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:03 pm

From The Times - Tony Barret

Kenny Huang has broken his silence on his attempt to buy Liverpool, whose present owners, George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, are set to be ordered to foot a bill for penalty fees that could exceed £45 million.

Prospective bidders for the club were assured by the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) that Hicks and Gillett will, in the event of a sale being completed, be told to pay any punitive charges arising from their latest refinancing deal, or risk being sued.

Huang, meanwhile, confirmed last week’s revelations in The Times that he is leading a consortium to buy the club. In an interview with Sohu Sports, a Chinese website, Huang claimed that his proposal has been well received by the Liverpool board and, although he has yet to submit a formal bid for the club, he remains hopeful of beating off rival bidders and completing a deal.

The already multilayered situation regarding the potential sale of the club has been made more complex by the disclosure of details pertaining to the refinancing deal secured by Hicks and Gillett in April, which expires in October. According to the terms of the agreement with RBS, the Americans are personally liable for penalty fees in the region of £2.5 million for every week that passes without the club being sold.

By the end of this month, that sum will stand at £45 million and the fees will continue to build until the club are sold. The bank imposed the fees on Kop Holdings, Liverpool’s parent company, in an attempt to hasten the exit of the Americans exit after a deal to sell part of the club to Rhône Capital, the private equity firm, collapsed this year.

RBS will take the fees out of the proceeds of the club’s sale, but if Liverpool are sold for less than £282.4 million — the club’s £237 million debt plus the potential penalty fee — the bank will pursue Hicks and Gillett, not Liverpool, for the extra money.

RBS moved to allay fears that the new owners would be saddled with the bill, although the likelihood is that Hicks and Gillett will factor the costs into their asking price.

“We have confirmed with Liverpool’s board that we are interested in bidding for the team,” Huang said of his proposal, which The Times understands is backed by China Investment Corporation, the investment arm of the Chinese Government. However, the Hong Kong-based businessman was not prepared to reveal who his backers are besides verifying the involvement of Yang Guang as fund manager for the consortium.

“We have signed a confidentiality clause with regards to the acquisition of Liverpool,” Huang said. “We are doing all aspects of the investigation and assessment, and [the] overall progress is very smooth. However, we have powerful competitors, so now there are many unknowns.

“There are rivals from North America and the Middle East. Each bidder wants to consider themselves at an advantage, so it is difficult to say we are far ahead. We will continue to work with the board and the banks of Liverpool, as well as other aspects.
We have provided a large number of documents and now we have got an answer. Liverpool’s board has approved our proposal and I hope we continue to move forward. We will have an answer in less than ten days.

“I am 50 per cent confident we will acquire the club. Our adversaries are stronger and we lack experience, so we need to do further research.”
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:22 pm

Go for it RBS Id love them to sue the @rse off cancer & aids, I hope our club costs them millions in fees and they dont recieve a single penny HA FECKING HA
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Postby Reg » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Oh and Tony BARRET (THE TIMES) has just reiterated on radio merseyside that Huang is in pole position to win .

Pole position in a race of one is not saying much.

We cant assess his terms obviously but I'll be pretty concerned if we end up with the only bidder as new owners. Rather have the best of 10 bidders than Mr Bean simply because he had the balls to put a bid together.
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Postby Reg » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:58 pm

Tom Hicks and George Gillett face £20m bank penalty if Liverpool is not sold

Liverpool owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett will have to pay the Royal Bank of Scotland £20 million in penalty fees if the club remains unsold at the end of August, it has emerged.

11:00PM BST 12 Aug 2010

Though Kenny Huang, the leading contender to oust the Americans, yesterday insisted talks are progressing smoothly, he admits he is only "50 per cent" confident of securing a £400 million takeover.

The bank, which holds £237 million of debt placed on the Anfield side by its American owners, has imposed the so-called "ticking fees" against Hicks and Gillett, rather than Liverpool, in an attempt to force a sale of the club.

Hicks and Gillett are also thought to be personally liable for millions of pounds in punitive interest charges since RBS agreed to a new refinancing deal in April. The bank will take the fees out of the proceeds of a sale of the club, though should Liverpool fetch less than the £282.4 million sum of its total debt, RBS will pursue the Americans for the extra funds.

Liverpool's current owners are holding out for a £600 million deal to cover liabilities elsewhere in their business empires, but sources familiar with the sale have suggested that such a price remains a pipe-dream.

Yahya Kirdi, the Syrian-Canadian businessman acknowledged as the Americans' preferred bidder, has denied he will meet that valuation, while Huang is thought to be preparing an offer of around £400 million.

The Chinese entrepreneur yesterday broke his silence on his prospective takeover in an interview published by Love Basketball magazine in his homeland, insisting an outline proposal has been approved by Liverpool's chairman, Martin Broughton, and the club's board.

He also moved to assuage a number of doubts over his offer, including the provenance of funds and the identities of his backers, though he stopped short of confirming whether he had tabled a formal bid to buy the club.

"We have signed a confidentiality clause with regards to the acquisition of Liverpool," Huang was quoted as saying. "I am 50 per cent confident we will acquire the club. We have provided a large number of documents. Liverpool's board has approved our proposal and we will have an answer in less than 10 days.

"Liverpool's board have given us a positive response, but there are still plenty of unknowns. Our competitors are very strong and the board has not confirmed they will accept us. There are rivals from North America and the Middle East. We still have some distance to go, but we were informed the board regard our proposal as acceptable in the macro."

Huang also dismissed suggestions he would walk away should a deal not be completed by the end of the week and confirmed that Yang Guang, his partner in Liverpool's would-be parent company QSL, is involved in the bid in an advisory capacity.

Though Liverpool fans will be unconcerned by personal debts accrued by their unpopular owners, the club's future, should Hicks and Gillett manage to retain control at Anfield, will be a cause of considerable distress.

"Liverpool's is not a long-term business model," said Philip Long of PKF accountants, who conduct an annual survey into football finance. "There simply is not a happy ending to leveraged buy-outs. The burden of the interest outweighs any profits the club make, and that becomes unmanageable.

"The two Americans hanging on and seeing their debt refinanced by RBS, continuing to pay interest, is a far worse scenario than the bank taking over the running of the club. The debt burden will just increase to a point where the interest is not being serviced any more. The ultimate end game, if Hicks and Gillett cling on, is that Liverpool goes bust."

Meanwhile, Huang could come face to face with one of the American owners he is trying to oust from Anfield at a London conference later this year, writes Paul Kelso.

Huang has not spoken to the UK media since making public his bid for the club, but regardless of what transpires with Liverpool, he has already agreed to give a presentation at the Economist Global Sport Summit at the end of October.

Juang is listed under his Chinese name, Jian-Hua Huang, among the speakers on the conference website. A spokesman for the conference said he had confirmed his attendance weeks before his interest in Liverpool became public.

In a twist that could add a little tension to events, George Gillett is among the delegates who have indicated they will attend the conference, which will be held at the Grosvenor House Hotel on Oct 29, two days before the annual NFL match at Wembley.

Whether the ownership of Liverpool will have transferred between Huang and Gillett is a moot point, and it remains to be seen whether both men fulfil their commitment to the event. Two years ago both Gillett and Tom Hicks attended the conference.


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Postby NANNY RED » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:27 am

Thit should be put in big fu.ck off letters Reg with a liverbird laughing his ar.se off having a sh.it on top. :nod

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Postby Rush Job » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:40 am

maguskwt wrote:Well if you're not a hideous parasite you won't be a rich businessman...

Yep and yep.
Said the same thing back in the 5 hundreds. :D

You dont get morally just mega rich.
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Postby NANNY RED » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:43 am

Rush Job wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Well if you're not a hideous parasite you won't be a rich businessman...

Yep and yep.
Said the same thing back in the 5 hundreds. :D

You dont get morally just mega rich.

ah ay does that make me a hideous parasite then :laugh:
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Postby Rush Job » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:48 am

devaney wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Well if you're not a hideous parasite you won't be a rich businessman...

Steve Jobs founder of Apple certainly doesn't fall into that category! Jees just when I thought I had the monopoly on cynicism you turn up !!!!!! lol  :D

The mega rich love PR.
The guy could right off the third world debt and not notice. Its not like all he`s got is a tenner but he`s willing to share.

Actually someone email him and remind him we`re still for sale. :D
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