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Postby devaney » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:10 pm

jono wrote:
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jono wrote:latest on rawk is we are payin 2.5m a week interest on PIK, RBS are raping us as much as the yanks

Absolute utter b.rollicks - s.hit this thread get's worse by the day

If you want to believe the cr.ap that is written in a pityful excuse for a newspaper then that is up to you. Show me some real evidence of this PIK loan if you can instead of a stupid picture!
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Postby puroresu » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:13 pm

Reg wrote:Look, 'we' have no knolwedge of Saddam the Syrian's terms but I'm telling you now I do not want a friend of T&T's to take over, I do not want a Syrian who traditionally have no interest in football, experience of running top flight clubs nor track record of sporting prowess and are governed by a dicatator who promotes global terrorism. I do not want a guy who has nothing 'special' to offer, Syria is not a 'new market' in which we will tap significant revenues, nor is anywhere in the eastern med area, nor Canada. He will continue the plan of T&T to milk the media rights and increase prices etc.. Its an old, worn out business plan, we know it doesnt work. This is not the right guy to safeguard the furure of our football club nor come in to rebuild our fortunes.

Kenny Heung nor China have the requisite football experience but they do have access to a 1.5 billion people home market that if wisely exploited will create substantial income for the club and raise our profile in the far east market - the future revenue earning region in the world. China will also become a superpower and in principle we could be the strongest team in the strongest country with the largest population and collectively massive disposable income. Selling TV rights into China will yield a mighty return. In principle Kenny also has CIC worth $313 billion behind him.

This Syrian does not represent the future, he has nothing to offer. The Chinese have money, a market and massive potential.

Like I said, I do not know the terms of Saddam´s offer but I hope to goodness SSN is deeply wrong, I hope that Broughton will have already established my above points.  SOS - must - immediately contact the club to ascertain the truth and to establish whether they are going with Saddam. A weaker bid from the Chinese - with a future - is better than a few more million upfront and no future. Ask Moores.....
 
I really do not want to believe we could fúck up the ownership again.... it would break us.  :(

Isnt the chinese government a dictatorship?  I mean its not as if the people choose there leaders is it?

I aint no fan of the Syrian Tyrant buy come on china isnt exactly angels. Just ask the people of Tibet or the chinese muslims who are made to suffer all kinds of oppression.
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Postby Reg » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm

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Reg wrote:Look, 'we' have no knolwedge of Saddam the Syrian's terms but I'm telling you now I do not want a friend of T&T's to take over, I do not want a Syrian who traditionally have no interest in football, experience of running top flight clubs nor track record of sporting prowess and are governed by a dicatator who promotes global terrorism. I do not want a guy who has nothing 'special' to offer, Syria is not a 'new market' in which we will tap significant revenues, nor is anywhere in the eastern med area, nor Canada. He will continue the plan of T&T to milk the media rights and increase prices etc.. Its an old, worn out business plan, we know it doesnt work. This is not the right guy to safeguard the furure of our football club nor come in to rebuild our fortunes.

Kenny Heung nor China have the requisite football experience but they do have access to a 1.5 billion people home market that if wisely exploited will create substantial income for the club and raise our profile in the far east market - the future revenue earning region in the world. China will also become a superpower and in principle we could be the strongest team in the strongest country with the largest population and collectively massive disposable income. Selling TV rights into China will yield a mighty return. In principle Kenny also has CIC worth $313 billion behind him.

This Syrian does not represent the future, he has nothing to offer. The Chinese have money, a market and massive potential.

Like I said, I do not know the terms of Saddam´s offer but I hope to goodness SSN is deeply wrong, I hope that Broughton will have already established my above points.  SOS - must - immediately contact the club to ascertain the truth and to establish whether they are going with Saddam. A weaker bid from the Chinese - with a future - is better than a few more million upfront and no future. Ask Moores.....
 
I really do not want to believe we could fúck up the ownership again.... it would break us.  :(

Isnt the chinese government a dictatorship?  I mean its not as if the people choose there leaders is it?

I aint no fan of the Syrian Tyrant buy come on china isnt exactly angels. Just ask the people of Tibet or the chinese muslims who are made to suffer all kinds of oppression.

I know China isnt a democracy mate but they are a very different culture than us and they are clearly 'in transition' politically, socially and economically which at least is something positive. The Syrians meanwhile are sitting on the med coast somewhat closer to home and to us culturally.

That aside, my focus on the Chinese is the growth potential for the club through their ownership whereas the Syrian chappie lives in Canada and as such has nothing 'special' to offer. He's another commercial rapist just like T&T even employing Gillett's son, but wearing a Tommy Cooper fez.
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:13 pm

Ciggy wrote:Im sh!tting myself of him taking over, Foster Gillett works for him ffs.

Absolutly terrified of him taking over  , it dosnt even bare thinking about,
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Postby red till i die!! » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:22 pm

it sickens me that twit and tw@t will walk away with a nice profit.absolutely gutted here:angry: .
dont want to see that syrian guy here either as he has an association with them pair of c'unts.
i really hope its just a ploy by them to push up the asking price and that broughton will do the right thing by the club.
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:29 pm

Wonder how much he got for sellin his offie and his pizza cafe
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:17 pm

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Ciggy wrote:Im sh!tting myself of him taking over, Foster Gillett works for him ffs.

Absolutly terrified of him taking over  , it dosnt even bare thinking about,

Its not beyond the realms of possibility that he gets the money to buy the club off twit & tw@t so they can keep raping it, Gillett was the one who went to the BBC with DIC and the 7 year plan we know Gilletts sent people to the USA and China to dig some dirt on Huang Im not saying I want this Chinese bid but I certainly dont want this charlatan taking over.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:30 pm

is there any sort of deadline to the takeover?
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:42 pm

7_Kewell wrote:is there any sort of deadline to the takeover?

The only deadline we have is the october 1st dealine,when the refinancing is up. It is thought that RBS will then call in the loan and basically own the club . This is the reason why ,there is such a mad panic for the sale to be completed as G+H don't have the dosh to pay RBS.
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Postby Ciggy » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:03 am

There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

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Postby Reg » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:28 am

Liverpool hope two serious takeover offers will be tabled

The Liverpool board will meet to consider offers for the club on Thursday with club chairman Martin Broughton hoping at least two serious bids will finally be tabled. On Monday night it was unclear whether the club's American owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, would attend.

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Broughton has asked for fully-costed offers from bidders, with several facing a significant credibility gap. According to sources with knowledge of the sales process none of the bidders has yet provided proof of funds, and in some cases they have proved evasive when Barclays Capital (BarCap) have attempted to establish where funding may come from.

According to one source the bidders can be split into two camps: those who definitely have the funding to invest but may not wish to, and those who are desperate to get involved but have not yet shown they have the money.

Huang group reveals detail on Liverpool takeover bid In the first group is the Rhone Group, a New York-based investment house, and a Kuwaiti bid fronted by Rafed Al-Kharafi. Neither has made any public statement. The Indian finance and media giant Sahara India Pariwar said on Monday it would not bid for the club "for the time being".

In the second group are two bids that have made a great deal of noise without demonstrating they have the money to buy the club. Most prominent has been the Chinese bid headed by sports investor Kenneth Huang.

Huang's associates and public relations advisers insist that he is a serious bidder, but the last eight days have done little to endorse his credibility.

Denials, misinformation and confusion have clouded almost every aspect of the Huang bid, and if he does buy Liverpool their supporters better hope he runs the club more coherently than his bid.

Huang initially claimed to have the backing of China's sovereign wealth fund China Investment Corporation (CIC) but within 24 hours this was denied, and on Friday Huang's American business partner, Marc Ganis, conceded CIC was not a committed partner, would take only a maximum of 20 per cent of their consortium if it did invest, and may not put in any money at all.

Huang will not reveal who is funding the bid, but Ganis said no investor would control more than 20 per cent, meaning that at least five individuals or companies will have a say, which would have implications for the efficient management of the club.

The identity of these backers also remains a mystery to Broughton and BarCap. It is understood that attempts by BarCap to meet them or speak by telephone have failed.

There has been confusion too over the role of Huang's business partner Guang Yang, who initially denied he was involved via his US employer Franklin Templeton.

Huang's own credentials have come under scrutiny, though not via his QSL Sports website, which has been displaying the message 'Site Under Maintenance', since early last week.

The company has investments in Chinese basketball and baseball and a marketing agreement with the Cleveland Cavaliers, but suggestions QSL had a 15 per cent stake in the NBA outfit were quickly denied in the US.

Huang has secured a positive reception from the Liverpool fan base, however, and has arranged to meet the influential Spirit of Shankly group.

There is similar scepticism in the sales process over the bid launched by Yahya Kurdi, though it is not shared by the American owners, who consider the Syrian-Canadian's Middle Eastern-funded bid serious.

Kurdi's suggestion that he would meet the American's valuation of more than £500 million, as well as doubts about the derivation of his finance, is the main source of scepticism.

Kurdi's is the only bid that appears to believe the Americans can expect a profit given this is a forced sale. Neither have his listed Canadian business interests, which include a pizza delivery store and an off-licence, built confidence in his ability to run Liverpool.

Kurdi, Huang and the rest have until Thursday to erase these doubts.

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Postby PabloMedina28 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:31 am

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PabloMedina28 wrote:Because im back in england :D

Don't worry it gets this hot even for us locals

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Postby Rush Job » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:45 am

Well it looks like its between those two anyway. FWIW I dont like the sound of either,too many people involved on both sides and most of them havent even made their selves known yet, Five different companys would own a share if the chinese bid wins out? No thanks! That sounds like a nightmare.
I`m really hoping the best bid is being kept under wraps while the media is fed :censored: about these two jokers.
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Postby roberto green » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:31 am

Rush Job wrote:Well it looks like its between those two anyway. FWIW I dont like the sound of either,too many people involved on both sides and most of them havent even made their selves known yet, Five different companys would own a share if the chinese bid wins out? No thanks! That sounds like a nightmare.
I`m really hoping the best bid is being kept under wraps while the media is fed :censored: about these two jokers.

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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:32 am

puroresu wrote:
Reg wrote:Look, 'we' have no knolwedge of Saddam the Syrian's terms but I'm telling you now I do not want a friend of T&T's to take over, I do not want a Syrian who traditionally have no interest in football, experience of running top flight clubs nor track record of sporting prowess and are governed by a dicatator who promotes global terrorism. I do not want a guy who has nothing 'special' to offer, Syria is not a 'new market' in which we will tap significant revenues, nor is anywhere in the eastern med area, nor Canada. He will continue the plan of T&T to milk the media rights and increase prices etc.. Its an old, worn out business plan, we know it doesnt work. This is not the right guy to safeguard the furure of our football club nor come in to rebuild our fortunes.

Kenny Heung nor China have the requisite football experience but they do have access to a 1.5 billion people home market that if wisely exploited will create substantial income for the club and raise our profile in the far east market - the future revenue earning region in the world. China will also become a superpower and in principle we could be the strongest team in the strongest country with the largest population and collectively massive disposable income. Selling TV rights into China will yield a mighty return. In principle Kenny also has CIC worth $313 billion behind him.

This Syrian does not represent the future, he has nothing to offer. The Chinese have money, a market and massive potential.

Like I said, I do not know the terms of Saddam´s offer but I hope to goodness SSN is deeply wrong, I hope that Broughton will have already established my above points.  SOS - must - immediately contact the club to ascertain the truth and to establish whether they are going with Saddam. A weaker bid from the Chinese - with a future - is better than a few more million upfront and no future. Ask Moores.....
 
I really do not want to believe we could fúck up the ownership again.... it would break us.  :(

Isnt the chinese government a dictatorship?  I mean its not as if the people choose there leaders is it?

I aint no fan of the Syrian Tyrant buy come on china isnt exactly angels. Just ask the people of Tibet or the chinese muslims who are made to suffer all kinds of oppression.

Come on people why don't you research the subject before commenting?

CIC are an investment arm of the Chinese sovereign wealth fund, it isn't a hobby for senior leaders of the Chinese government. They have no jurisdiction in business, only where to spend the money. Once the money is invested their power is limited.

The scare mongering is getting pathetic.
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