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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:31 pm

A free transfer is never a free transfer - doesnt matter what chelsea paid benny as a signing on fee - we got 5 mil ish for benny - nothing more - so if we paid out around 2- 4 mil to cole thats some of the money gone already - plus 30 to 40 grand a week extra - so financial i think we are no better off .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:32 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:This is a line from what his agent said

“Football is the most important thing to Joe and continuing to play in the Champions League is high on his priorities.”


He has faith in our ability to make the CL for the following season. A sign of his ambition :nod  For now he'll just be happy to get back playing regular football again after an interrupted past couple of years. Who could blame him for wanting to do that at the most successful club in English football history, under a steady-eddy manager like Hodgson who is sure to use him sensibly, and alongside players of the ilk of Gerrard and Torres? You just don't get these things at Arsenal or Spurs.

Lets hope so mate
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Postby PabloAimar » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:37 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:A free transfer is never a free transfer - doesnt matter what chelsea paid benny as a signing on fee - we got 5 mil ish for benny - nothing more - so if we paid out around 2- 4 mil to cole thats some of the money gone already - plus 30 to 40 grand a week extra - so financial i think we are no better off .

Yeah but if chelsea paid 8 to sign benayoun surely we're relatively £5m better off?
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Postby PabloAimar » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:40 pm

Also, judging by what roy's said about Joe cole up until now I think it's safe to say he knows EXACTly what kind of player loic remy is. touché, touché Roy!
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Postby rocky29 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:41 pm

we need 2 more strikers and a leftback.  kuyt and babbel need 2go.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:43 pm

But Chelsea didnt give us 8 million did they - they gave us around 5 million and Yossi a signing on fee . But we as a club dont get the 8 million do we . Take away from the 5 million any signing on fee given to cole and then we have profit - then add up how much extra we pay cole which is reported to be 30 grand a week extra and that starts eating into the profit . A free transfer is never free .

If he is on 90 grand a week thats 4.5 mil a year - he is going to sign for 4 years so that totals up to 18 million plus any signing on fee .

So while we have got him without paying a transfer fee he is far from being free .
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Postby Fauxy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:45 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:But Chelsea didnt give us 8 million did they - they gave us around 5 million and Yossi a signing on fee . But we as a club dont get the 8 million do we . Take away from the 5 million any signing on fee given to cole and then we have profit - then add up how much extra we pay cole which is reported to be 30 grand a week extra and that starts eating into the profit . A free transfer is never free .

If he is on 90 grand a week thats 4.5 mil a year - he is going to sign for 4 years so that totals up to 18 million plus any signing on fee .

So while we have got him without paying a transfer fee he is far from being free .

But we could probably sell him next year for a good 10 Mill if we wanted to.

There isnt much financial risk in this signing really.
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Postby PabloAimar » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:47 pm

I love the fact you actually responded to that. :)
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Postby Fauxy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:48 pm

PabloAimar wrote:Also, judging by what roy's said about Joe cole up until now I think it's safe to say he knows EXACTly what kind of player loic remy is. touché, touché Roy!

Correct!

I also reckon Roy knows about Remy. He is being very clever and shreud, putting up a smokescreen to disencourage other clubs from quickly going for Remy to avoid getting into a bidding battle for him with another club.
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Postby Sabre » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:50 pm

I know we have insulted him plenty, but he's the kind of player that allows the Gerrards and the Torres believe in the project.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:50 pm

We could indeed sell him next season for 10 million and then make a profit on him . As for financial risk well we don't risk loosing a transfer fee that is true but that's a mighty big contract to offer someone who IMO off course isn't the same player at the moment than he was 3 seasons ago when he was oustanding and previous seasons - mainly due to that serious injury . If he recovers that form then we got a cracking player and I hope that is the case hence why I'm waiting to see before being extremely excited about him signing .

Off course its just my opinion and I hope we are still allowed to have one without fear on here
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:51 pm

PabloAimar wrote:I love the fact you actually responded to that. :)

You ask a question and I will answer it .
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Postby Fauxy » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:52 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:We could indeed sell him next season for 10 million and then make a profit on him . As for financial risk well we don't risk loosing a transfer fee that is true but that's a mighty big contract to offer someone who IMO off course isn't the same player at the moment than he was 3 seasons ago when he was oustanding and previous seasons - mainly due to that serious injury . If he recovers that form then we got a cracking player and I hope that is the case hence why I'm waiting to see before being extremely excited about him signing .

Off course its just my opinion and I hope we are still allowed to have one without fear on here

hehe I am beginning to grow fond of you Benny  :D
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Postby LFC2007 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:52 pm

If Benayoun was on £60k/pw and his contract had three years left to run, and if it's true that Chelsea paid us £5m for him, and if Cole's wages are 90k/pw for four years, then we're only about £4m down over the course of the next four years than would have been the case if neither deal had happened. Hands up who wouldn't have done the deal?  ???
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Postby The Good Yank » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:52 pm

Benny, one question.  Do you think we should sign Joe Cole?
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