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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:44 pm

dawson99 wrote:if its not against the American nation then why burn the American flag?

And Bob, how naive are you, thinking America won't hear about some flag burning, of course they will hear about it. They ae the proudest nation on the planet, they'll see it, and hate it, as they should.

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Kinell,  mate, I've got an American wife and you're going to lecture me about how the Americans will view the incident?  Give over.  :laugh:
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:44 pm

Greavesie wrote:Igor's gonna go spare when he sees this :D

Its a good job he wasnt here today with the twins Serendipity & Snake argueing and agreeing with his own alter ego  :laugh:

We have had some weirdos on here we should rename this place the Norman Bates hotel wheres Laza  MOTHER   :D
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:50 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
dawson99 wrote:if its not against the American nation then why burn the American flag?

And Bob, how naive are you, thinking America won't hear about some flag burning, of course they will hear about it. They ae the proudest nation on the planet, they'll see it, and hate it, as they should.

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Kinell,  mate, I've got an American wife and you're going to lecture me about how the Americans will view the incident?  Give over.  :laugh:

bob, you ever read the UN charter about racism?

???

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social cultural or any other field of public life.

you read that?  NATIONAL ORIGIN...so you were saying?  :laugh:
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Postby Reg » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:51 pm

dawson99 wrote:no Cigs, that's not the point. The point is we need new investment, and we won't get it if we are seen as flag burning drunken idiots, which is how the international media will perceive us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt it these same flag burning, drunken idiots that have created such a valuable Premier League product and valuable LFC brand?

Are we supposed to change our behaviour for the cameras then revert to type when they're turned off?

Dont tell me investors dont know what British football fans are like, lets try to keep some grip on reality here.

And who said the flag burner or anyone else in the demo was drunk?

Why do you keep putting LFC fans down?  ???  ???
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:58 pm

Reg wrote:
dawson99 wrote:no Cigs, that's not the point. The point is we need new investment, and we won't get it if we are seen as flag burning drunken idiots, which is how the international media will perceive us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt it these same flag burning, drunken idiots that have created such a valuable Premier League product and valuable LFC brand?

Are we supposed to change our behaviour for the cameras then revert to type when they're turned off?

Dont tell me investors dont know what British football fans are like, lets try to keep some grip on reality here.

And who said the flag burner or anyone else in the demo was drunk?

Why do you keep putting LFC fans down?  ???  ???

Me mum and dad where there they are in their 60's and wernt drunk  :)
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Postby paisleyred » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:59 pm

Totally blown out of proportion!
Does anyone honestly think the flag burning incident even made the news in the states?
And if it did are they ar$ed?
If some baseball fans were burning a union jack cos they had poor UK owners would anybody give a toss?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:00 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Reg wrote:
dawson99 wrote:no Cigs, that's not the point. The point is we need new investment, and we won't get it if we are seen as flag burning drunken idiots, which is how the international media will perceive us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt it these same flag burning, drunken idiots that have created such a valuable Premier League product and valuable LFC brand?

Are we supposed to change our behaviour for the cameras then revert to type when they're turned off?

Dont tell me investors dont know what British football fans are like, lets try to keep some grip on reality here.

And who said the flag burner or anyone else in the demo was drunk?

Why do you keep putting LFC fans down?  ???  ???

Me mum and dad where there they are in their 60's and wernt drunk  :)

Ciggy, some of us are not upset with the pasion our fans have to get rid of these two [email]b@stards...we[/email] just question the methods. We will get rid of them, but we have to be smart about it.
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Postby Number 9 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:00 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
dawson99 wrote:if its not against the American nation then why burn the American flag?

And Bob, how naive are you, thinking America won't hear about some flag burning, of course they will hear about it. They ae the proudest nation on the planet, they'll see it, and hate it, as they should.

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Kinell,  mate, I've got an American wife and you're going to lecture me about how the Americans will view the incident?  Give over.  :laugh:

bob, you ever read the UN charter about raci

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social cultural or any other field of public life.

you read that?  NATIONAL ORIGIN...so you were saying?  :laugh:

Fuc'k up ya wee asswipe...really shut your piehole!


Racist this and racist that...you are an absolute wimp and a pathetic effort of a human being if "YANKS OUT" offends you...we are not talking about the whole of the colourful arrogant mess that is the USA..its simply about getting Gillett and Hicks out...no one is being racist...we just want our club back.Sadly in the process we need to tread on the toes of ars,eholes like you..ah well cest la vie!
Im embarrassed that given our situation you are more concerned about offending Americans than getting the club sorted...see from where I sit,FU,CK America and everyone in it...its not part of my life!!Racist??Sue me


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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:02 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
dawson99 wrote:if its not against the American nation then why burn the American flag?

And Bob, how naive are you, thinking America won't hear about some flag burning, of course they will hear about it. They ae the proudest nation on the planet, they'll see it, and hate it, as they should.


Kinell,  mate, I've got an American wife and you're going to lecture me about how the Americans will view the incident?  Give over.  :laugh:

bob, you ever read the UN charter about racism?

???

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social cultural or any other field of public life.

you read that?  NATIONAL ORIGIN...so you were saying?  :laugh:

Bob, you there? I find your silence amusing when you have been shown up to be talking rubbish.

you claim to teach against racism, yet you have NO IDEA what it is  :laugh:

to make matters worse you give me a warning because you have no understanding on the subject. Who on earth picks the mods?
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 pm

On the flag-related LFC ownership issue. I wouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't advise it because it associates a whole nation with the acts of two individuals and that isn't a good template to follow. But in this day and age we should be prepared to accept that where deep injustice is felt and a remedy is long in coming, these things are liable to happen. It would be just as ignorant for those who feel such a strong attachment to a national symbol to assume in kind that all LFC fans or any LFC-related group is a bunch of mindless savages. It gets you nowhere. Those who are offended would do well to put it in perspective and ask if there's any real consequence to this at all. I don't see it myself.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:04 pm

Number 9 wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
dawson99 wrote:if its not against the American nation then why burn the American flag?

And Bob, how naive are you, thinking America won't hear about some flag burning, of course they will hear about it. They ae the proudest nation on the planet, they'll see it, and hate it, as they should.

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Kinell,  mate, I've got an American wife and you're going to lecture me about how the Americans will view the incident?  Give over.  :laugh:

bob, you ever read the UN charter about raci

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social cultural or any other field of public life.

you read that?  NATIONAL ORIGIN...so you were saying?  :laugh:

Fuc'k up ya wee asswipe...really shut your piehole!


Racist this and racist that...you are an absolute wimp and a pathetic effort of a human being if "YANKS OUT" offends you...we are not talking about the whole of the colourful arrogant mess that is the USA..its simply about getting Gillett and Hicks out...no one is being racist...we just want our club back.Sadly in the process we need to tread on the toes of ars,eholes like you..ah well cest la vie!
Im embarrassed that given our situation you are more concerned about offending Americans than getting the club sorted...see from where I sit,FU,CK America and everyone in it...its not part of my life!!Racist??Sue me


I want my club back!! YNWA!!

yeah, lets make our club look stupid and racist when we are trying to bring in investment from aborad. what a great idea  :laugh:
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:05 pm

before it was Benitez and now this, some people around here like doing nothing else other than focus on things that are not important.

some people burnt flags, so what, there are far bigger issues to worry about atm.
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Postby supersub » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:06 pm

seems there is a new agenda on newkit now that Rafa Benitez has gone.......try and discredit SOS ....sling the the race card into the mix and the world goes ballistic over them rotten scouse gits...as if the world gives a sh.it ...but don't the jorno's love to create a story
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Postby Greavesie » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:06 pm

before it was Benitez and now this, some people around here like doing nothing else other than focus on things that are not important.


I am starting to get this impression from some
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:08 pm

supersub wrote:seems there is a new agenda on newkit now that Rafa Benitez has gone.......try and discredit SOS ....sling the the race card into the mix and the world goes ballistic over them rotten scouse gits...as if the world gives a sh.it ...but don't the jorno's love to create a story

lad, some of us care about what is carried out in OUR name. There are big problems with the SOS campaign and they need addressing. Sadly, no one wants to listen. That is why the SOS thing has done sweet FA over the last 2 years.
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