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Reg wrote:

I felt like that after watching us play all season 

Reg wrote:

s@int wrote:

Reg wrote:Why dont you just copy/paste one of S@ints posts?

Why don't you just feck off.

At least he's posted his opinion something you seem fecking incapable of. All you have EVER done since you came on here is moan and fecking groan at other peoples opinions.

I have an allergy to reading repetitive shíte, fortunately for you I´m getting to used to it but shíte is still shíte at the end of the day - same colour, same smell.   

Penguins wrote:As things stand now Rafa will stay.
There may be many reasons for and against him staying.
But the most relevant is 16 million. That is really all there is to the subject.
Hicks would never ever contemplate paying for something he doesn't have to and he surely will not make this an exception.
Live with it....

Igor Zidane wrote:Does anybody seriously think that if your a proffesional and you are sytematically being usurped by those above you it would not throw you and put you off your job ffs . Get real . It is all starting to come out now , how are manger has been batteling not only the owners , but the MD and his media cronies and not just that he's trying to compete against 19 0ther teams in the prem .

teamleader1 wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:Does anybody seriously think that if your a proffesional and you are sytematically being usurped by those above you it would not throw you and put you off your job ffs . Get real . It is all starting to come out now , how are manger has been batteling not only the owners , but the MD and his media cronies and not just that he's trying to compete against 19 0ther teams in the prem .

Do you really believe that the negative tactics, strange line ups and even stranger substitutions that have been a more often than not part of the season can be excused away by blaming the owners?

cannot argue with that point! we all have pressure from above at work but some of rafa's decisions this year have been ludicrous and if I was a gambling man it was if he wanted2 get the sack  ?

Scottbot wrote:

parchpea wrote:Benitez has worked under difficult circumstances but its a bloody hard job anyway. Sometimes you get the impression he wants an easy ride when hes always asking for big money and more control but no top football job is free of restraint. All managers at the best clubs have hellish pressure and expectation under the eye of rich owners and huge expectation. Ok hes not had the biggest budget, but hes has had one of biggest in the divison at his disposal and the advantage of being in charge of a prestigious club that by his own admission can attract top class players anyway. The control he begged for was given and now he over looks everything at Anfield.I doubt theres a manager with more control at a football club anywhere. I am not arguing that the owners have not caused him problems, its obvious they have, but I just feel its being over played by Benitez to mask some of the poor decisions hes made in the transfer market and his tactics in the Premiership. Despite all the adversity at the football club it would surely be very difficult to argue that he should not have made much better use of his resources and his selection of player and squad assembly has been very poor. To me the rot really set in when he tried to use Alonso as a make weight to broker a deal for Barry. In itself it was a poor decision and in the ripples cost us the services of Alonso and we lost out on Barry anyways. Then we had the Keane fiasco last year followed up by another 2 lads signed this summer for £40m who have not made any impression at all.Its just not good enough and frankly the prospect of Benitez now being given any more funds frightens the life out of me because to me it looks like the fella has lost the dressing room and is likely to make a hash of any recruitement whilst looking as dazed and on the ropes as he does right now.

That's a really good post mate. Balanced but truthful and on the money in my book.

bavlondon wrote:Not much to take away from that meeting but id say it's positive. If Rafa wanted out he would have made it clear. Now just give the man 70Mil to spend plus whatever he makes from player sales and let him bring home number 19!!!!

fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t wrote:

teamleader1 wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:Does anybody seriously think that if your a proffesional and you are sytematically being usurped by those above you it would not throw you and put you off your job ffs . Get real . It is all starting to come out now , how are manger has been batteling not only the owners , but the MD and his media cronies and not just that he's trying to compete against 19 0ther teams in the prem .

Do you really believe that the negative tactics, strange line ups and even stranger substitutions that have been a more often than not part of the season can be excused away by blaming the owners?

cannot argue with that point! we all have pressure from above at work but some of rafa's decisions this year have been ludicrous and if I was a gambling man it was if he wanted2 get the sack  ??

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Not much to take away from that meeting but id say it's positive. If Rafa wanted out he would have made it clear. Now just give the man 70Mil to spend plus whatever he makes from player sales and let him bring home number 19!!!!

Where are they going to get £70million from Bav ? They can either borrow it (more debt against the club) or sell players to get it. If it means we have to sell Torres I would prefer to manage with less anyway.

The Chairman has promised money will be available , but I don't expect anything like £70million unless we get new investment or new owners.   

So which would you prefer £70million and Liverpool in even more debt and danger of bankruptcy or a smaller amount better managed?

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Not much to take away from that meeting but id say it's positive. If Rafa wanted out he would have made it clear. Now just give the man 70Mil to spend plus whatever he makes from player sales and let him bring home number 19!!!!

Where are they going to get £70million from Bav ? They can either borrow it (more debt against the club) or sell players to get it. If it means we have to sell Torres I would prefer to manage with less anyway.

The Chairman has promised money will be available , but I don't expect anything like £70million unless we get new investment or new owners.   

So which would you prefer £70million and Liverpool in even more debt and danger of bankruptcy or a smaller amount better managed?

I thought part of the whole Barcap overseeing the deal included 60 odd mil? Hicks also indicated before we would spend a lot this summer. I doubt he was meaning we sell Torres, Broughton already said we don't need to sell any top players. Stop fear mongering! 

Emerald Red wrote:

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Not much to take away from that meeting but id say it's positive. If Rafa wanted out he would have made it clear. Now just give the man 70Mil to spend plus whatever he makes from player sales and let him bring home number 19!!!!

Where are they going to get £70million from Bav ? They can either borrow it (more debt against the club) or sell players to get it. If it means we have to sell Torres I would prefer to manage with less anyway.

The Chairman has promised money will be available , but I don't expect anything like £70million unless we get new investment or new owners.   

So which would you prefer £70million and Liverpool in even more debt and danger of bankruptcy or a smaller amount better managed?

New sponsorship deal and the money he was supposed to get last summer and in January should suffice.

bavlondon wrote:

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Not much to take away from that meeting but id say it's positive. If Rafa wanted out he would have made it clear. Now just give the man 70Mil to spend plus whatever he makes from player sales and let him bring home number 19!!!!

Where are they going to get £70million from Bav ? They can either borrow it (more debt against the club) or sell players to get it. If it means we have to sell Torres I would prefer to manage with less anyway.

The Chairman has promised money will be available , but I don't expect anything like £70million unless we get new investment or new owners.   

So which would you prefer £70million and Liverpool in even more debt and danger of bankruptcy or a smaller amount better managed?

I thought part of the whole Barcap overseeing the deal included 60 odd mil? Hicks also indicated before we would spend a lot this summer. I doubt he was meaning we sell Torres, Broughton already said we don't need to sell any top players. Stop fear mongering! 

No mate, that was only if Barclays took over the loan..... THEY DIDN'T. We are still with RBS and they never offered anything other than to extend the loan.

Hicks is out of the loop now mate.
We don't "need" to sell any players...... not unless we would like to buy some.