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shabelle50 wrote:The bottom line is that Benitez has been on borrowed time for long enough and has run out of ideas to turn it round. He's actually in a weaker position than Houllier was in 2004. Houllier had got the team back into the CL when he left and wasn't asking for a fortune to be given another twelve months.

Dundalk wrote:Sometimes a manager gets sacked and you dont think it was fair. Sometimes you think he should have been given a better chance to turn the club around. Sometimes it comes out of the blue and it dosent feel right.

Mark Hughes at Man City being an example.

And then sometimes you have a feeling that everything is pointing that a managers time is up. Sometimes you think that the players can feel it and that the fans, even the biggest backers, feel that maybe the time has come for a change.

Rafa Benitez at Liverpool being an example



Thanks for Istanbul Rafa and thanks for Cardiff in 2006. Thanks for Athens in 2007 and thanks for bringing Fernando Torres to Liverpool. But your time is up. The club needs a change. We need new owners and a new manager. A fresh start and a clean slate. Everything seems to have gone stale and if we are to get this club back to were it belongs we need a change

shabelle50 wrote:He's actually in a weaker position than Houllier was in 2004.

Emerald Red wrote:

shabelle50 wrote:He's actually in a weaker position than Houllier was in 2004.

No he isn't.

parchpea wrote:There isnt a club in the world of similair stature that would accept this campaign and we shouldnt either.

roberto green wrote:

parchpea wrote:There isnt a club in the world of similair stature that would accept this campaign and we shouldnt either.

There also isn't a club in the world with the same stature that has had this inside fighting and turmoil and it's name constantly degraded in the press and media who are hell bent in getting a manager sacked.

Liverpool442 wrote:

fivecups wrote:

Liverpool442 wrote:I am so fed up with this dogsh*t spouted by Rafa, If he spent more time building relationships with players and less time trying to manipulate the press and supporters we might not be in the mess we have been in this season. I'm starting to find all this spin in the media simply annoying, he should let the owners run the club (even if it is badly) and just remeber he is an employee who is paid to do a job, nothing more nothing less.
It is probabily right that he has been let down in respect of promises made, but he wont be the first or last manager this has happened to, the differance is most just get on with it and make the best of the situation whilst he has just sulked and moaned which in turn has lost the support of all the media, half the fans and looking at the pitch a good chunk of the players.
He likes his facts so here we go:
1) He has had money, lots of it over 5 full seasons. All the players are now his with the exception of SG and Carra who any team in the land would want. You can argue over how much but over 5 years its in the same bracket as all the top teams and more than Spurs, Villa, City, Everton and Arsenal who are around us.
2) Out of all the wonder kids bought for 1 - 2 million a pop, how many have made it through over 5 years ? Pachecho the closest and he has only played he for 3 sub appearance is a season were we have had nothing to lose for the best part. And to achieve this we lost a legend in Steve Highway.
3) He Can't man manage, Keane, Crouch, Babel, Reira, Alonso ect ect ect.
4) He has made himself and Liverpool FC a laghing stock with a succesion of embarrising attempts at playing the media, and gifted the mancs "RAFA'S RANT"
5) He has brought a boring defensive style to the club which only looks slightly more exciting and works when we have Torres and SG on together, a whole system built around two players in a league as demanding as the Premiership, insane.
I have no doubt Rafa has some good qualities and could well win the league however only if given an unlimited budget, unlimited time and unlimited control of the club. I hear all his supporters and for a long time tried to back him myself but it is now so obvious a change is needed to freshen things up, he can say what he likes but seventh this season is an absolute disgrace with the players and funding he has had.

THESE ARE NOT FACTS, THEY ARE OPINION!

It's ridiculous how often people do this on the forum.

Wise up you idiot.

Brilliant post some quite reasonable points and get told to "Wise up you idiot" whats the point of having a discussion forum if people get abused for posting an opinion they believe just because somebody else does not ?
Also I think you will find that points 1, 2 and 4 are facts.
Fed up of people trying to defend something which cannot be defended... We are Liverpool FC and we are fighting for 6 - 7 place under a manager who has had charge for 5 years with reasonable finances, it is a total joke in my OPINION his ego has totally taken over and his stubboness and poor judgement has hurt the team more than anything this season.

leep33 wrote:I think listening to the way Benitez is talking in the media then he will be gone. Hopefully whoever takes over from him will be given the funds to build a team that can challenge for the league.

bavlondon wrote:

leep33 wrote:I think listening to the way Benitez is talking in the media then he will be gone. Hopefully whoever takes over from him will be given the funds to build a team that can challenge for the league.

Does this look like the look of a man who is going? Nah didn't think so.

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I think he must have gone Bav ...... the link doesn't work mate