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Postby tubby » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:22 pm

devaney wrote:Lakes - apologies mate - I missed the bit about your Nan - please accept both my sincere condolences and grovelling apology - I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously.

Ciggy - thank you for pointing out my somewhat crass mistake.

So just because of his nan is ill you say sorry? What about the rest of the time you are acting like a childish :censored:???

The same goes for anyone here, boodiddy I don't give a :censored: what your name is. If you have a problem with someone either PM them or keep yer gobs shut.
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:23 pm

aCe' wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Lyndsey Lohan :nod

:laugh:

:nod

:laugh: Hillarious inbulk @ Lyndsey  :laugh:
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:24 pm

fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
devaney wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
devaney wrote:Who is Lyndsey?

lol you better run mate.

What have I said now ?

lol nothing mate, look at the posts i am sure you can work out who she is.

will not take too many scrolls to find out she's a feckin muppet with a grudge against our new Manager.

picking on her? sorry, that is bollox just like all the drivel she has spouted on here about Roy.

:veryangry

Behave your f.ucking self lad, Just because someone didnt want Roy as our manager and has got there doubts about him doesnt make them a muppet. Your making a fu,cking show of yourself mate with a post like that, ill tell you what though id sooner have as you say A Martha fighting in my corner than some of the divvies who post on here , Shes not a follower of sheep shes shown that by stating whatshe thought her opinion, Do you honestly think that someone as passionate about our club like she is WOULD GIVE A TOSS  what some on here think of her opinion on our manager, yeh thats right lad people have opinions, and shes stated hers , And as this is the owner thread ill take me hat off to her an all for the way she hasnt just sat there and done nothing about our owners ,shes fought against them long and hard , instead of just doing nothing and hoping it will all sort itself out , Shame a few more couldnt of been as hostile against them two maybe they might have sold sooner,
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Postby tubby » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:25 pm

Ciggy wrote:
aCe' wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Lyndsey Lohan :nod

:laugh:

:nod

:laugh: Hillarious inbulk @ Lyndsey  :laugh:

That's a good one!  :wwww  :D
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Postby devaney » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:26 pm

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devaney wrote:Lakes - apologies mate - I missed the bit about your Nan - please accept both my sincere condolences and grovelling apology - I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously.

Ciggy - thank you for pointing out my somewhat crass mistake.

So just because of his nan is ill you say sorry? What about the rest of the time you are acting like a childish :censored:???

The same goes for anyone here, boodiddy I don't give a :censored: what your name is. If you have a problem with someone either PM them or keep yer gobs shut.

Fk off Bav you self righteous pr.ick
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Postby Number 9 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:29 pm

bavlondon wrote:
devaney wrote:Lakes - apologies mate - I missed the bit about your Nan - please accept both my sincere condolences and grovelling apology - I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously.

Ciggy - thank you for pointing out my somewhat crass mistake.

So just because his nan is ill you say sorry? What about the rest of the time you are acting like a childish :censored:???

The same goes for anyone here, boodiddy I don't give a :censored: what your name is. If you have a problem with someone either PM them or keep yer gobs shut.

Exactly Bav what a fuc'king tool....yeah its sad about Lakes Nan and we all Im sure pass on our condolences!


BUT what sort of people is this board letting on when they say things like.."I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously"....Well hold on a second we are talking about the long term future of LFC,its a serious issue!

tw@ts like that roll about the forum and nothing is said...the lad is a fuc'king idiot...probably going through puberty too!
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Postby Dundalk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:31 pm

Can everyone calm down

What we all wanted is happening so can we all just chill the fuck out!!
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:31 pm

Number 9 wrote:My main worry is that it is gonna be a rushed decision!

We need players so we are gonna have to get the deal done with time left to sign some before the window closes.
Now... last time we were up for sale we had people at the club like Parry and Moores who are still to this day loyal fans(yes they made a terrible choice) but that is history now!

now we have "businessmen" making the choice with between 4-6 potential owners knowing we are in a rush to sell and selling themselves to the club like a pack of wh'ores to get their foot in the door!They will all promise the world,they will all put together offers that sound too good to be true!

The price we go for is totally irrelevant....it does not matter if its £350 million or £450 million.....the worry is that we may get sold to someone just like the yanks,or worse.

The main priority is that we get sold to someone who does what they promise and is prepared to put money into the club,get the stadium built and get money into the squad and stay for the longhaul...whoever takes over its gonna take a long time before they profit.

The way it works now though is that some rich dude can come in,buy the club invest £50m...raise the clubs value by £100m and sell it to someone in a few years time..making them take on the debt as well!!

Its no different than buying a run down house for £100 k spending £30k on it and selling it for £180k sadly,people do it all the time!..... its just on a bigger scale..and LFC is the house!

Baz.... the terrible publicity T&T have attracted onto RBS, the FA/EPL, the sponsers, the players and the fans.... Broughton and the board would be very, very silly to rush into any deal prior to doing a very thorough and complete diligence on the  bidders plus analysis of their terms and 5 year plans.

I 'hope'..... when Broughton says he has identified the most suitable buyer, that he will be right. And that the buyer has the means to buy the club and fulfill his strategy.

In the meantime IGOR, I repeat my question about what SOS is up to and whether they are undertaking independent diligence on the bidders, whether they have an input into any of the negotiations and whether a fan representative is being discussed with any and all of the bidders. If they are shut out now at the beginnning, they will never make any progress.  ???
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Postby tubby » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:31 pm

devaney wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
devaney wrote:Lakes - apologies mate - I missed the bit about your Nan - please accept both my sincere condolences and grovelling apology - I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously.

Ciggy - thank you for pointing out my somewhat crass mistake.

So just because of his nan is ill you say sorry? What about the rest of the time you are acting like a childish :censored:???

The same goes for anyone here, boodiddy I don't give a :censored: what your name is. If you have a problem with someone either PM them or keep yer gobs shut.

Fk off Bav you self righteous pr.ick

Self righteous my :censored::laugh: You have been having a pop at Lakes since day 1. I don't blame you though, some here are of the mentality that like to tag along on a good witch hunt so if that's your game ok.

In the interest of not dragging this thread further off I won't comment any more on this so if you want to continue, feel free to PM me.
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Postby Redman in wales » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:39 pm

Dundalk wrote:Can everyone calm down

What we all wanted is happening so can we all just chill the fuck out!!

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Postby tubby » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:40 pm

Reg wrote:
Number 9 wrote:My main worry is that it is gonna be a rushed decision!

We need players so we are gonna have to get the deal done with time left to sign some before the window closes.
Now... last time we were up for sale we had people at the club like Parry and Moores who are still to this day loyal fans(yes they made a terrible choice) but that is history now!

now we have "businessmen" making the choice with between 4-6 potential owners knowing we are in a rush to sell and selling themselves to the club like a pack of wh'ores to get their foot in the door!They will all promise the world,they will all put together offers that sound too good to be true!

The price we go for is totally irrelevant....it does not matter if its £350 million or £450 million.....the worry is that we may get sold to someone just like the yanks,or worse.

The main priority is that we get sold to someone who does what they promise and is prepared to put money into the club,get the stadium built and get money into the squad and stay for the longhaul...whoever takes over its gonna take a long time before they profit.

The way it works now though is that some rich dude can come in,buy the club invest £50m...raise the clubs value by £100m and sell it to someone in a few years time..making them take on the debt as well!!

Its no different than buying a run down house for £100 k spending £30k on it and selling it for £180k sadly,people do it all the time!..... its just on a bigger scale..and LFC is the house!

Baz.... the terrible publicity T&T have attracted onto RBS, the FA/EPL, the sponsers, the players and the fans.... Broughton and the board would be very, very silly to rush into any deal prior to doing a very thorough and complete diligence on the  bidders plus analysis of their terms and 5 year plans.

I 'hope'..... when Broughton says he has identified the most suitable buyer, that he will be right. And that the buyer has the means to buy the club and fulfill his strategy.

In the meantime IGOR, I repeat my question about what SOS is up to and whether they are undertaking independent diligence on the bidders, whether they have an input into any of the negotiations and whether a fan representative is being discussed with any and all of the bidders. If they are shut out now at the beginnning, they will never make any progress.  ???

Was saying something similar to someone last night. SOS should reach out to these parties and invite them to sit down for a frank Q&A session in which they can address the fans.
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Postby NANNY RED » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:40 pm

Reg wrote:!

Baz.... the terrible publicity T&T have attracted onto RBS, the FA/EPL, the sponsers, the players and the fans.... Broughton and the board would be very, very silly to rush into any deal prior to doing a very thorough and complete diligence on the  bidders plus analysis of their terms and 5 year plans.

I 'hope'..... when Broughton says he has identified the most suitable buyer, that he will be right. And that the buyer has the means to buy the club and fulfill his strategy.

In the meantime IGOR, I repeat my question about what SOS is up to and whether they are undertaking independent diligence on the bidders, whether they have an input into any of the negotiations and whether a fan representative is being discussed with any and all of the bidders. If they are shut out now at the beginnning, they will never make any progress.  ???[/quote]
Good Post that REGINALD  :nod
and as someone who was at the meeting a few weeks ago . Graham said it didnt matter who eventualy took over weather it even be a fans , they will still be called into question.
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Postby Redman in wales » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:42 pm

right, can we keep it on topic please?

mods - a horrible question to ask of you, and quite a bit of work too, but this thread really needs cleaning up a bit! - if you have time and the inclanation, that'd be great, if not, no worries like. (just struggling to search through the cr@p to find the football bits!)
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Postby devaney » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:42 pm

Number 9 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
devaney wrote:Lakes - apologies mate - I missed the bit about your Nan - please accept both my sincere condolences and grovelling apology - I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously.

Ciggy - thank you for pointing out my somewhat crass mistake.

So just because his nan is ill you say sorry? What about the rest of the time you are acting like a childish :censored:???

The same goes for anyone here, boodiddy I don't give a :censored: what your name is. If you have a problem with someone either PM them or keep yer gobs shut.

Exactly Bav what a fuc'king tool....yeah its sad about Lakes Nan and we all Im sure pass on our condolences!


BUT what sort of people is this board letting on when they say things like.."I was only having a bit of fun and I would hate to think that you ever take me too seriously"....Well hold on a second we are talking about the long term future of LFC,its a serious issue!

tw@ts like that roll about the forum and nothing is said...the lad is a fuc'king idiot...probably going through puberty too!

Number 9 - if you think that more than 5% of the nine hundred plus pages on here can be taken seriously then you need to look up the meaning of the word idiot. I disregard most of Lakes's comments because I have always found him difficult to take seriously but that is not to say that I am not big enough to apologise when I have made a genuine mistake you utter fkg tool!
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Postby tubby » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:46 pm

Saw bits of this posted earlier but not sure if the other stuff about the 4 sub companies have been posted.

4 Companies who could be Huang’s Far East Backers?

Posted on Wednesday, 4th August 2010 by David Tully

Kenny Huang’s office today stated that they have yet to make a formal bid for Liverpool but they have said they are interested in making an offer for the club. Huang is rumoured to be funded by a sovereign wealth fund from the Far East, and although I could be wide off the mark with whom Huang is getting his backers from, I thought it would be logical to surmise that considering Huang has extensive connections with many of China’s state owned businesses, it would be reasonable to assume that they would be involved in such a deal. Especially because Huang’s investment firm Rocket Capital, formed with the billions of NBA owners Les Alexander and Billy Joe McCombs, has invested into these companies, I thought that these four could have some involvement.

Brilliance Auto – The company is one of the leading automotive manufacturers in China. After its formation in 1992, Brilliance Auto has developed to become a massive player in China, not only manufacturing it’s own cars, but also establishing joint ventures with other car companies, including BMW, Toyota and Mitsubishi. In 2003, it agreed a deal to manufacture the BMW 3 series and 5 series in China while also selling there own “minibuses” for sale in the Chinese market. Promoting their brand through Liverpool worldwide could provide an excellent opportunity for the company.

Anta Sports Group – Probably the most likely to involved in the Liverpool deal, Anta Sports is one of the leading sportswear companies in China. It leads the market in sports footwear in China and it states on it’s website its’ ambitions for promoting its brand:

    “The Group places great emphasis on branding by integrating the resources from sports leagues’ sponsorships, placement of advertisements, interaction with consumers through internet and endorsement of elite athletes with the featured products to enhance brand and product differentiation.”

Liverpool would no doubt fit into to their brand promotion strategy. They already sponsor Les Alexander’s Houston Rockets, and would certainly like to break into both the British market as well as utilising the worldwide appeal that the Reds possess.

Uni-President Enterprises – The company is Taiwan’s largest food company and through its subsidiaries exports everything from food products to animal feeds. In joint ventures or through affiliates, it also has large investments in both China itself and in the surrounding Asia/Pacific region. Interestingly enough for Liverpool fans, the business also owns the President Lions professional baseball team in Taiwan, indicating its interest in sport.

Sinoma International Engineering – Sinoma formed in 2001 and is listed on the Shanghai stock exchange. It specialises in engineering consultancy, engineering design, construction and supply, and has progressed in the last nine years to become a leader in both the domestic and overseas cement engineering industry. It is keen to develop and raise awareness of its business abroad and is keen to become a leading top 100 project general contractors in the next few years.

All of these companies then have two things in common: 1) they have close connections with Kenny Huang and 2) they are all keen to promote their companies worldwide with two of them already involved in sport in some shape or form. Whether they are part of the sovereign wealth fund backing Huang is up for debate, but it does show that Huang has connections to many extremely wealthy companies.

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