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I would go for Mourinho. He is the outstanding manager out there that is free (as far as we know), knows what it takes to be successful in the Prem, and has a big enough name to bring in the big stars (if we get any money). I think he would come (before redtrader says it again )because I think he feels he still has something to prove in the Prem, likes Liverpool, and would soon have the fans eating out of his hand with a bit of success.

Ive just nearly been sick even reading his name associated with our club i for one could never get me head round him being manager anyway i said earlier its goodbye Ancelotti hello Jose

I would rather have him inside the tent p!ssing out, than outside the tent p!ssing in Nanny.

Once we got our first title, I think most would come around. In fact as soon as he comes out with a bit of the "I have always though LFC supporters where the best in the world," most will be eating it up.

Given the choice I think he would choose Liverpool before Milan.

[The Manhattan Project]

Jose couldn't get Stevie G to leave Liverpool and join Chelsea.


So Jose left Chelsea and will join Liverpool just to be close to Stevie G.


He loves him

[ruskiy playmaker]

How about Ancelloti.

[The Manhattan Project]

I think Ancellotti should stay as Milan manager.

He just needs to clear the old players out.

[Trewyn]

Jamie Carragher.... surprise!

I'm basing this on what Stevie G said. There was one interview where he was asked if he would ever manage Liverpool. He replied that he didn't have the brains for it and that Carragher would be a better choice. Apparently Carragher analyses almost every match and has good tactical awareness. So all Carragher needs are his coaching licenses and tada~ we have a player/coach   Someone who already commands respect in the team and has experience on the pitch.

[Toffeehater]

Agree with manhatten , they have very old players , maldini last night was superb , arsenal deserve to go through , they were the better team , which now worries me , 3 english teams who drew in the first leg are almost all through the last 8 , LFC was the only english team to win in the first leg , i hope we don't slip up at milan

[NANNY RED]

Well it doesnt look like all you Maureen fanciers are gonna get there wish of him coming here the poser has said he wants to come back into managment in Italy or Spain

God im distraught

[god_bless_john_houlding]

That's great news as far as I'm concerned as well nanny. I couldn't bare having him as manager of our club. I could never accept a fella who only 12 months ago I wanted to use as a human punch bag.

Plus it keeps the field open for Gary Johnson

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Gary Johnson and his Bristol City side are still top of the championship after drawing with pre-season favourites Watford at Ashton Gate tonight. Johnson's men are now only one point ahead of Stoke who are second, but are four points clear of Watford in third who do have a game in hand, while WBA who are fourth are six points behind with two games in hand. With only eight games left for Bristol City, automatic promotion to the Premership from the Championship is in their own hands. Some achievment considering they were only promoted from League One last season.

Two consecutive promotions looks on the cards, and credit must go to Liverpool's next manager Gary Johnson.

[LFC2007]

The example of Ferguson taking seven years to win the Premiership at Manchester United is one which gets trotted out from time to time and quite regularly whenever somebody voices a negative opinion about our manager. I suppose it's fair enough, but equally Wenger at arsenal took only a season to win the double, and that stat is dismissed as readily as Mourinho "buying" the Premiership at Chelsea.

I thought I'd bring this in here.

I don't know who dismisses that Wenger stat, but I think it's widely acknowledged that Wenger is a bit of a one-off when it comes to his spending-to-success ratio. He's an exception, and since no other manager has managed to win the EPL without spending significant funds, he shouldn't be held as the standard bearer in terms of time to achieve EPL success. Further to that;

Fair enough Wenger won the double in his second season and his record speaks for itself, but back then you could win the league without being particularly efficient defensively - something that's a requisite now. Wenger inherited Ian Wright, who helped put them in with a shout of the title in his first season, Tony Adams, and Denis Bergkamp, who was the catalyst for their double win in the following season. Whilst Rafa may have inherited Michael Owen in his first season, he wanted to leave of his own accord to 'further his career' and as such didn't have as potent attacking options as Wenger. In a league that has turned increasingly tactical and defensive (In the past four seasons, the winner has conceded fewer than 27 goals) this option was key IMO. The arrival of Abramovich in 2003 solidified Chelsea as a firm annual competitor to the league title. This didn't exist when Wenger took over. It was basically a two horse race for the best part of 6 seasons, with us managing to pop in one of those.

My point about Ferguson is very relevant, and I've highlighted those reasons in one of my earlier posts*. Since he is regarded as one of the mose successful managers of all time, he stands as the perfect example of what persisting with your manager can achieve - the similarities with his situation in the late 80's and Rafa are notable.

*

The Manc's hadn't won much in the recent period prior to Ferguson's arrival in 1986 (a couple of FA cups in the 80's, but they hadn't won the league for almost 20 years), their league position in the two seasons prior to his arrival were fairly akin to our two prior to Rafa's arrival (4th, 4th for them, 5th, 4th for us).

The league is arguably more difficult to win now than it was back then, and Ferguson certainly wasn't lacking in financial backing in the transfer market (The signing of Pallister broke the British transfer record at the time).

In the late 80's, the Manc's were often described as "hard working, cautious, methodical and dull". After the 1989/1990 season, many people took the view that they were going "backwards", there was indeed "growing doubt" as to whether Ferguson was the man to turn them into title contenders.

[Koppite_Tom]

Gary Johnson and his Bristol City side are still top of the championship after drawing with pre-season favourites Watford at Ashton Gate tonight. Johnson's men are now only one point ahead of Stoke who are second, but are four points clear of Watford in third who do have a game in hand, while WBA who are fourth are six points behind with two games in hand. With only eight games left for Bristol City, automatic promotion to the Premership from the Championship is in their own hands. Some achievment considering they were only promoted from League One last season.

Two consecutive promotions looks on the cards, and credit must go to Liverpool's next manager Gary Johnson.

I live in Bristol so although i travel up to liverpool to watch the mighty reds play i read and hear quite a lot about Johnson in the local press, he's done a marvellous job for Bristol City but i don't he can be considered just yet.       

[Phil (moaning twat)]

Im not one of the Rafa haters but i was starting to get sick of it lately with some of his decisions

I dont see who we could get to replace him who would be better though. He seems to have turned it around lately, too late now yeah, but still, lets hope we can keep this going until the end of the season



We'll be up there next year.......


  fecking sick of saying that i must say

[Reg]

Jose couldn't get Stevie G to leave Liverpool and join Chelsea.


So Jose left Chelsea and will join Liverpool just to be close to Stevie G.


He loves him

Stevie G´s spoken for, Torres already loves him.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Gary Johnson and his Bristol City side are still top of the championship after drawing with pre-season favourites Watford at Ashton Gate tonight. Johnson's men are now only one point ahead of Stoke who are second, but are four points clear of Watford in third who do have a game in hand, while WBA who are fourth are six points behind with two games in hand. With only eight games left for Bristol City, automatic promotion to the Premership from the Championship is in their own hands. Some achievment considering they were only promoted from League One last season.

Two consecutive promotions looks on the cards, and credit must go to Liverpool's next manager Gary Johnson.

I live in Bristol so although i travel up to liverpool to watch the mighty reds play i read and hear quite a lot about Johnson in the local press, he's done a marvellous job for Bristol City but i don't he can be considered just yet.       

I'm not actually wanting Johnson as our manager, I just think his accomplishments deserve to be credited and I think he's a top manager who'll be managing in the Premiership next year with or without Bristol City.

I'm all for crediting talent in the lower leagues. Johnson's achievements have been little short of magical in the lowe leagues and he deserves a shot at the premiership. And that will be with Liverpool Football Club

[LFC2007]

Isn't the emergence of Torres as arguably the best out-and-out striker in the league, but also Mascherano who's arguably the best out-and-out defensive midfielder in the league, a key reason to keep Rafa as manager?

Torres, I'd imagine, would be very disappointed to see Rafa go. He's expressed his support for the manager throughout the season, and forms a crucial component of our team. Rafa brought him to the club, he took a gamble on him for a record fee, and he's getting the best out of him and he'll probably get better. He's someone who could go on to be one of our all-time greats. Seeing as we (i.e. BigMick ) often seem to be on the topic of 'fluency and rhythm', 'confidence and consistency', wouldn't removing Rafa as manager compromise the development of Torres in this respect? The players, especially the Spanish players, often mention the feeling surrounding the club - the Spanish influence et al - and how it makes it easier to settle, and easier to assimilate. It's a working environment conducive to Torres' development. Mascherano is equally very grateful that Rafa brought him to the club, he supports his vision for he future and is a born and bred winner.


Just when we seem to be getting the pieces in place for a bright future, wouldn't it be a bit naive to sack him? Would it not be an oversight to ignore the effect that the loss of the man who brought these players to the club might have?

I think it would.