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[kazza]

Do I answer every post he makes..... no. Do I constantly harrass him....no. Do I constantly make personal comments about his occupation....no, so what the feck are you on about Lando?

Fantastic, you've proven my case. The more I read it, the more brilliant a defence it becomes. You should be a lawyer.

Happy dayz

Lando, you're a genius 

[callumlfc93]

I personally think Rafa has turned this club around - it should be the owners who get the blame for not providing Rafa with the funds to purchase who he wants. However, I believe the main problem is the players attitude, they look disinterested and certain players are probably more interested in the World Cup. In Rafa We Trust.

[NANNY RED]

Funds-free January on the cards for Rafael Benitez

Tony Barrett


Rafael Benítez is unlikely to be given any of the proceeds from player sales during the January transfer window to reinvest in new signings this month once the arrival of Maxi Rodríguez is confirmed.

The Atlético Madrid and Argentina winger is expected to cost £1.5 million and join on an 18-month deal. Benítez is also looking for a loan recruit in defence after Glen Johnson, the right back, was ruled out for at least a month with a knee injury.

Four fringe members of the Liverpool squad could leave the club in the coming weeks: Andrea Dossena, Philipp Degen and Andriy Voronin have been earmarked for the exit door and Ryan Babel is the subject of serious interest from Birmingham City. The money recouped from their potential sales could total in excess of £15 million.

Napoli have agreed a £4.4 million fee for Dossena, the defender, who is set to complete the move back to his native Italy once personal terms have been agreed; Voronin, the forward, is on the brink of signing for Dynamo Moscow in a deal worth about £2 million; and Degen is the subject of interest from several clubs in Germany, with Stuttgart leading the race for the defender’s services.

Birmingham have offered £9 million for Babel but that bid is likely to be rebuffed because the Holland forward is keen to hold out for a move to the Continent. Galatasaray, who are coached by Frank Rijkaard, Babel’s countryman, are one of a number of clubs ready to enter the race for his services.

Although the Liverpool manager is working without a transfer war chest, club insiders insist that that policy has not been forced on him by Liverpool’s estimated £250 million debts and resultant interest payments, believed to be in the region of £30 million a year.

However, critics of George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the co-owners, may dispute that assessment. And should Liverpool not make any significant investment in their playing squad it will serve only to reinforce Benítez’s recent assertion that the club’s priority has shifted from trophy gathering to debt reduction.

In August, Benítez broke even on incomings and outgoings in August and in the previous transfer window, last January, the sale of Robbie Keane to Tottenham Hotspur for a fee in the region of £15 million was the only significant activity involving Liverpool.

Should Liverpool go a third transfer window without making any significant investment in their squad it will serve only to reinforce Benítez’s recent assertion that the club’s priority has shifted from trophy gathering to debt reduction.

Speaking last month, the Spaniard conceded that Liverpool’s hopes of challenging for the title this season were undermined by the need for the club to reduce their outstanding debts. Well off the pace set by Chelsea, the Premier League leaders, Liverpool’s main aim for the campaign is to qualify for next season’s Champions League, but even that aspiration is far from being a foregone conclusion because they languish in seventh place behind Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City and Aston Villa, their fellow contenders to finish in the top four.

Any hopes that the purse strings would be loosened in an attempt to fund a drive to guarantee their top-four status have been dashed and Benítez will be faced with the prospect of improving the fortunes of a squad that has struggled desperately at times this season without recourse to even a limited spending spree.



 

[bunglemark2]

Out of that four, I'd reluctantly hold onto Babel, if only for the sole reason that he is the only one even remotely likely to score a goal when you might need one. Then again, if he wants to go, what can the manager do ? I would assume if an offer comes in, Waldorf & Statler will simply say "Thanks very much..." and pay it off the ridiculous debts they've created...

[account deleted by request]

Do I answer every post he makes..... no. Do I constantly harrass him....no. Do I constantly make personal comments about his occupation....no, so what the feck are you on about Lando?

Fantastic, you've proven my case. The more I read it, the more brilliant a defence it becomes. You should be a lawyer.

Happy dayz

Lando, you're a genius 

I see myself more as the Judge rather than a lawyer mate, and I find you guilty on all charges.

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[account deleted by request]

If thats the case then why is it acceptable for you to stalk/comment on me Lando.

Just out of interest, you understand...

Mate - I'm not the one crying about it - you are.

No I am the one saying how pathetic it is and pretty much thinking the same about you too.

Well that's up to you, I guess. Perhaps a good, long look in the mirror is the order of the day, though.

I think that long looks into mirrors is more in your line anyway  mate...... gotta keep those highlites in tip top condition 

[bigmick]

It's unfortunate that the New Year obviously hasn't seen a new perspective on the forum. I've never been able to work out why people who are staunch in their support of the manager simply cannot accept the right of others to disagree with them. I do disagree with them, I think they are wrong on the manager, but I think I understand why they feel the way they do about it, I respect their right to hold the views they do, and lets not forget because it's a very important point, they may even be right in the end. I hope we don't ultimately get to find out because I'm fairly sure they're not, but you do never know for sure.

Even a prolonged spell on the sidelines obviously hasn't caused Lando to look again at his style, to consider afresh his approach to debate on here which is a shame. I think it's possible to be every bit as robust and as staunch as he is without resorting to the silliness, posters such as Nanny Red, RBG, Igor and the like manage it without too much problem.

Some people of course are completely beyond help so far be it for me to even try, I've got better things to do with my time, but for most I hope we can at least find some common ground in that we all want what's best for the club. It's only in our assessment of how we actually get what is best for the club in the way we differ, so there's no need for all the hostility really.

[fivecups]

Funds-free January on the cards for Rafael Benitez

Tony Barrett

What a depressing article Nan. If, by some miracle we find buyers for our misfits, getting £15million in the process, we still only get £1.5 million to spend. Exactly how are we going to improve our squad with such a lack of investment? Once again we are left hoping for a sugar-daddy to sort us out.

[Sir Roger]

Just watchin us versus spurs on LFCTV where Gonzales scored, then Kuyt, then Riise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/5351884.stm

We had Gonzales, Bellamy, Garcia and Kuyt all bombing forward with Gerrard and Sissoko supporting
Fast, effective, creative attacking football.

Anybody know what happened?
Seriously...

[bigmick]

We had Gonzales, Bellamy, Garcia and Kuyt all bombing forward with Gerrard and Sissoko supporting
Fast, effective, creative attacking football.

Anybody know what happened?
Seriously...

Well Gonzales was rubbish and if he played well in that game he ought to have himself a DVD made of it. Garcia was fitful, and if Kuyt was "bombing" anywhere it will have been a first and last. Bellamy like many before him (and since come to that) was trying to work out how comes he not only didn't play every week when he was playing well and running his nuts off, but when he did play the position he was playing in was a fairly random choice. He was a good player before we bought him and a good player after we sold him. In between, his seven iron play improved out of all recognition. Sissoko was in the middle of his halcyon days at that point, unfortunately for him and us it went Djimi Traore shaped.

What happened? We fecked it up.

[Sir Roger]

We had Gonzales, Bellamy, Garcia and Kuyt all bombing forward with Gerrard and Sissoko supporting
Fast, effective, creative attacking football.

Anybody know what happened?
Seriously...

Well Gonzales was rubbish and if he played well in that game he ought to have himself a DVD made of it. Garcia was fitful, and if Kuyt was "bombing" anywhere it will have been a first and last. Bellamy like many before him (and since come to that) was trying to work out how comes he not only didn't play every week when he was playing well and running his nuts off, but when he did play the position he was playing in was a fairly random choice. He was a good player before we bought him and a good player after we sold him. In between, his seven iron play improved out of all recognition. Sissoko was in the middle of his halcyon days at that point, unfortunately for him and us it went Djimi Traore shaped.

What happened? We fecked it up.

"We"?
As in me and you?
I like attacking football...

[maypaxvobiscum]

"we" as in Liverpool.....under Rafa.

[roberto green]

We had Gonzales, Bellamy, Garcia and Kuyt all bombing forward with Gerrard and Sissoko supporting
Fast, effective, creative attacking football.

Anybody know what happened?
Seriously...

Well Gonzales was rubbish and if he played well in that game he ought to have himself a DVD made of it. Garcia was fitful, and if Kuyt was "bombing" anywhere it will have been a first and last. Bellamy like many before him (and since come to that) was trying to work out how comes he not only didn't play every week when he was playing well and running his nuts off, but when he did play the position he was playing in was a fairly random choice. He was a good player before we bought him and a good player after we sold him. In between, his seven iron play improved out of all recognition. Sissoko was in the middle of his halcyon days at that point, unfortunately for him and us it went Djimi Traore shaped.

What happened? We fecked it up.

Saved me writing more or less the same thing.

[Sir Roger]

"we" as in Liverpool.....under Rafa.

"He" then?
What a pity. If only he'd have concentrated on the attacking football we played back then..

[maypaxvobiscum]

"we" as in Liverpool.....under Rafa.

"He" then?
What a pity. If only he'd have concentrated on the attacking football we played back then..

one of my beef with rafa is that the players that he sold, were of much better quality than those he brought in. Bellamy and Warnock should never have been sold IMO.

and btw, we really lack a fiery character like Cantona or Keane who would really fire everyone up, hence why i was happy to see Bellamy come, and disappointed to see him go.