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[boodiddy1]

demands to be played. If he showed as much effort when playing then he wouldn't have to issue ultimatums.

Andy Gray said has much on saturday. Some players will shake off knocks, others wont. Gerrard was disgusted with Babel on sat. He had no intention of giving it a run off. He's a fanny. Get rid, doesn't matter how much. 6m would be a steal given his poor attitude.

A poor player, i wouldn't say a poor signing on Benitez' side, because we can all see that he has great potential. He just doesn't want to show it. A typical wannabe, rather look good first and come second, rather than work like and come first.

See yer around you bum:angry:

[bunglemark2]

Hes given an interview in a dutch paper this morning.

Hes said play me more or im off in January, the other strikers are selfish and no one bothers with him out of the team in their free time.

Said he wants to go he has spoken to Rafa but the answers he gave him didnt make sense so hes none the wiser about his future.

See yer lar

Heard that on the radio alright. Can't think who in their right mind would be willing to take him though, or how much they'd be willing to pay....
He's the architect of his own situation though. Too many half-ersed performances....

[Sir Roger]

He is fast becoming a liability who will cause more harm the longer he stays

[The_Rock]

Looks like babel is smarter than i give him credit for....... 

He is manipulating the press for his own gains (hmmm.... who else does this)..

Its best we get rid of him... Lets not spoil his career anymore. Some players want to feel "wanted"...They think the world revolves around them. (Not a bad thing though...i would say..because christiano ronaldo also is of a similar mould). It is the managers responsibility to know how to deal with different players (who have different personalities). I am sure all you guys (and gals) who are in supervisory position in your jobs know this. You just can't "talk" the same to all your subordinates and expect them to come up with similar results.


Looks like we have to be prepared to make a big loss on him.

[heimdall]

the weird thing is that  think he will do well somewhere else, I think it is another case of poor man-management from Rafa. Having said that I think his attitude stinks but a motivational manager would get the best out of him.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Regardless of personal opinion towards Ryan Babel. It has become very apparent that Rafa is slowly losing the dressing room. Maybe he is cracking under the pressure?

[tubby]

Regardless of personal opinion towards Ryan Babel. It has become very apparent that Rafa is slowly losing the dressing room. Maybe he is cracking under the pressure?

If he is then the question is, can he regain it? If not then this is surley only heading to one thing.

[heimdall]

Regardless of personal opinion towards Ryan Babel. It has become very apparent that Rafa is slowly losing the dressing room. Maybe he is cracking under the pressure?

If he is then the question is, can he regain it? If not then this is surley only heading to one thing.

I think when you look at Carra and Stevie they look p1ssed off and a lot of that frustration is at Rafa, it's just a hunch and I could well be wrong but I really do think he is loosing the dressing room fast, just like SouthCoast says.

[Lando_Griffin]

the weird thing is that  think he will do well somewhere else, I think it is another case of poor man-management from Rafa. Having said that I think his attitude stinks but a motivational manager would get the best out of him.

Does it hurt when you think? It f*cking should.

[Lando_Griffin]

Regardless of personal opinion towards Ryan Babel. It has become very apparent that Rafa is slowly losing the dressing room. Maybe he is cracking under the pressure?

If he is then the question is, can he regain it? If not then this is surley only heading to one thing.

I think when you look at Carra and Stevie they look p1ssed off and a lot of that frustration is at Rafa, it's just a hunch and I could well be wrong but I really do think he is loosing the dressing room fast, just like SouthCoast says.

Yes, me too... 

Isn't it odd how Rafa loses the dressing room every season, then all of a sudden they're right back with him...?

You really do make me smile, Heimy...

[Ciggy]

From the Echo.



Outspoken Babel opens up Reds exit

Nov 24 2009 by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
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RYAN BABEL is edging closer to the Anfield exit after launching an astonishing attack on manager Rafa Benitez and his team-mates.

The Dutchman, who misses tonight’s Champions League clash with Debrecen due to injury, insists Benitez is partly to blame for his failure to make the grade in the Premier League.

And the 22-year-old claims his progress has been hampered by the “selfish” attitude of some Reds stars.

Babel’s comments look set to be the final nail in his Liverpool career with Benitez likely to offload the under-achieving winger during the January transfer window.

“I have tried to talk to the manager but it isn't of any use,” Babel said.

“I couldn't really do anything with the feedback Benitez gave me.

“His philosophy is simple – try your hardest in training and then your chance will come. But sometimes I wonder how long I can sustain it.

“Many players can play lots of bad matches and still keep their credits – I can't.

“Benitez is not a man who will give you his trust straightaway. Benitez is a manager who in certain situations can do exactly the opposite of what you expect several times.

“Every time me or my agent (Willie Haatrecht) have a chat with him he stresses I can't leave and he believes in me.

“We have to trust he is telling the truth. Saying it is different to showing it. We have agreed to look at my situation during the winter break. If there's no improvement then, I have to be honest, I want to play somewhere else.

“I still want to stay at Liverpool. I just have the feeling, for many people, I still have to prove myself.

“I think that is unjustified and a pity. I have shown I can do it plenty of times. I know I could be further in my career but if nobody helps you, if they don't make it easier for you then it is difficult.

“In 2½ years with Liverpool I have never started three matches in a row.”

Babel, who has come off the bench 58 times out of his 105 Liverpool appearances, was also critical of his Anfield team-mates.

“All the forwards, they always live for their own success. It is hard for someone who isn't selfish by nature to act selfish,” he said.

“I don't know if my team-mates were shocked by my new character but I do notice once in a while they get confused.

“Normally I would pass the ball – now I take the shot myself more often. I see how they look at me with a face that says; 'Hey I am free!'

“But I'm not going to explain it any further because they don't give me any explanation when I ask for the ball.

“We have a lot of different cultures and on the pitch we are a tight group. But outside the pitch everyone goes their own way.

“The Spanish-speaking guys are very close. The youths hang out together. And I get along with Benayoun and Lucas.

“Dirk Kuyt? I don't really hang out with him. Dirk got accepted in the group of the Spanish-speaking players. He is very friendly with them and it looks as if he understands their jokes.”

Babel signed for £11.5million from Ajax in the summer of 2007 but after a promising first season, when he was voted Liverpool's Young Player of the Year, he has regularly failed to impress.

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Shocking attitude both on and off the pitch...... get rid now

[Lando_Griffin]

From the Echo.



Outspoken Babel opens up Reds exit

Nov 24 2009 by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
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RYAN BABEL is edging closer to the Anfield exit after launching an astonishing attack on manager Rafa Benitez and his team-mates.

The Dutchman, who misses tonight’s Champions League clash with Debrecen due to injury, insists Benitez is partly to blame for his failure to make the grade in the Premier League.

And the 22-year-old claims his progress has been hampered by the “selfish” attitude of some Reds stars.

Babel’s comments look set to be the final nail in his Liverpool career with Benitez likely to offload the under-achieving winger during the January transfer window.

“I have tried to talk to the manager but it isn't of any use,” Babel said.

“I couldn't really do anything with the feedback Benitez gave me.

“His philosophy is simple – try your hardest in training and then your chance will come. But sometimes I wonder how long I can sustain it.

“Many players can play lots of bad matches and still keep their credits – I can't.

“Benitez is not a man who will give you his trust straightaway. Benitez is a manager who in certain situations can do exactly the opposite of what you expect several times.

“Every time me or my agent (Willie Haatrecht) have a chat with him he stresses I can't leave and he believes in me.

“We have to trust he is telling the truth. Saying it is different to showing it. We have agreed to look at my situation during the winter break. If there's no improvement then, I have to be honest, I want to play somewhere else.

“I still want to stay at Liverpool. I just have the feeling, for many people, I still have to prove myself.

“I think that is unjustified and a pity. I have shown I can do it plenty of times. I know I could be further in my career but if nobody helps you, if they don't make it easier for you then it is difficult.

“In 2½ years with Liverpool I have never started three matches in a row.”

Babel, who has come off the bench 58 times out of his 105 Liverpool appearances, was also critical of his Anfield team-mates.

“All the forwards, they always live for their own success. It is hard for someone who isn't selfish by nature to act selfish,” he said.

“I don't know if my team-mates were shocked by my new character but I do notice once in a while they get confused.

“Normally I would pass the ball – now I take the shot myself more often. I see how they look at me with a face that says; 'Hey I am free!'

“But I'm not going to explain it any further because they don't give me any explanation when I ask for the ball.

“We have a lot of different cultures and on the pitch we are a tight group. But outside the pitch everyone goes their own way.

“The Spanish-speaking guys are very close. The youths hang out together. And I get along with Benayoun and Lucas.

“Dirk Kuyt? I don't really hang out with him. Dirk got accepted in the group of the Spanish-speaking players. He is very friendly with them and it looks as if he understands their jokes.”

Babel signed for £11.5million from Ajax in the summer of 2007 but after a promising first season, when he was voted Liverpool's Young Player of the Year, he has regularly failed to impress.

       

What a self-centered, pompous little c*nt. Is he off his tits on coke?

"It is hard for someone who isn't selfish by nature to act selfish,” he said."

Is he having a f*cking laugh? He's one of the most selfish players I've ever seen!!!

"Normally I would pass the ball – now I take the shot myself more often. I see how they look at me with a face that says; 'Hey I am free!'"

That boy needs therapy. "Normally I would pass the ball..." - erm, when, exactly? In his 105 matches I seriously doubt he has passed the f*cker more than 7 times.

Sour grapes from someone with an ego far bigger than his talent and positively titanic when compared to his heart.

C*nt.

[Ciggy]

One thing he is right about though is worst players get a game ahead of him, but their attitude doesnt stink thats why they get picked ahead of him.

[JC_81]

Does this really surprise anyone?

He's just confirmed what we thought for a long time.  Out for himself.

He'll surely be sold in January now... if we can find a buyer.

If we can't then I'd refuse to loan him out and I'd stick him in the reserves til the summer.