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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:51 pm

Tricky Dicky wrote:
andy_g wrote:for what its worth, i don't buy this 'every one hates liverpool fc' line either. we are all used to the stick we get from everton and from the mancs but we're just as good as giving it back to them anyway. of course, we also have the number of uneducated morons that still blame us and see us as mindless hooligans because of the tragic events at hillsborough and heysel.

i don't think there is a general media based dislike of us though. right now we are soft targets because of our disastrous situation so there's plenty a good story there, especially as we were tipped to be doing better and a fixture in the 'big four'. but to be honest, i see just as many articles taking the píss out of the mancs, out of arsenal, out of portsmouth and just about every other team that opens up for it.

A well balanced view and I'd agree with that.  :nod



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I agree....  and at no point did he come across as even remotely condescending or abusive (Maybe certain posters should follow his lead  ??? )
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Postby Tricky Dicky » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:57 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
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andy_g wrote:for what its worth, i don't buy this 'every one hates liverpool fc' line either. we are all used to the stick we get from everton and from the mancs but we're just as good as giving it back to them anyway. of course, we also have the number of uneducated morons that still blame us and see us as mindless hooligans because of the tragic events at hillsborough and heysel.

i don't think there is a general media based dislike of us though. right now we are soft targets because of our disastrous situation so there's plenty a good story there, especially as we were tipped to be doing better and a fixture in the 'big four'. but to be honest, i see just as many articles taking the píss out of the mancs, out of arsenal, out of portsmouth and just about every other team that opens up for it.

A well balanced view and I'd agree with that.  :nod



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I agree....  and at no point did he come across as even remotely condescending or abusive (Maybe certain posters should follow his lead  ??? )

How can you agree, you said "simply put Liverpool are hated"


You are like a dog with a bone, just give it up and read back to see where the sarcasm and consendeing started. It think you'll find your very first post 'something about a colinder' initiated an immature (on your part discussion).I've gathered already you like seeking pity, but don't play the victim (again) acussing others of being rude first.

As I said, give it up it's bordering on tedious and I'll ensure to ignore your rhetoric.




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Postby andy_g » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:57 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:and at no point did he come across as even remotely condescending or abusive

believe me, lads, i had to dig deep  :D
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:01 pm

Tricky Dicky wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote:
andy_g wrote:for what its worth, i don't buy this 'every one hates liverpool fc' line either. we are all used to the stick we get from everton and from the mancs but we're just as good as giving it back to them anyway. of course, we also have the number of uneducated morons that still blame us and see us as mindless hooligans because of the tragic events at hillsborough and heysel.

i don't think there is a general media based dislike of us though. right now we are soft targets because of our disastrous situation so there's plenty a good story there, especially as we were tipped to be doing better and a fixture in the 'big four'. but to be honest, i see just as many articles taking the píss out of the mancs, out of arsenal, out of portsmouth and just about every other team that opens up for it.

A well balanced view and I'd agree with that.  :nod



:)

I agree....  and at no point did he come across as even remotely condescending or abusive (Maybe certain posters should follow his lead  ??? )

How can you agree, you said "simply put Liverpool are hated"


You are like a dog with a bone, just give it up and read back to see where the sarcasm and consendeing started. It think you'll find your very first post 'something about a colinder' initiated an immature (on your part discussion).I've gathered already you like seeking pity, but don't play the victim (again) acussing others of being rude first.

As I said, give it up it's bordering on tedious and I'll ensure to ignore your rhetoric.




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I think I concurred with the fact it was a well balanced view ,not my view but nevertheless well balanced   ???
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:09 pm

andy_g wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:and at no point did he come across as even remotely condescending or abusive

believe me, lads, i had to dig deep  :D

:laugh:  Keep digging
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Postby 83-1275364913 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:13 pm

I think rafa will go to inter its the perfect fall out job for him. Think about it way he sets up teams he'll win the league ever year.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:43 pm

Snake Plissken wrote:I think rafa will go to inter its the perfect fall out job for him. Think about it way he sets up teams he'll win the league ever year.

Snake Plissken  ??? Ive farkkkin sh*t him  :laugh:
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Postby Emerald Red » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:13 pm

lakes10 wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote:Are you implying I'd make a "valid opinion" at Anfield because the away supporter sing a few "stereotypical" songs? Is that were the "valid opinion" would come from or from the home support  ??? Hmm your point is; erm non-valid and pointless.

You really need to get out and see the world  :laugh:

It's people like you who fuel the fire and feed the youngens with this pathetic mentality. Do yourself a favour and drag your knuckles into the 21st century.



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I am suggesting you actually take the time to attend a match instead of gleaming what little knowledge you can gather from people in pubs  :laugh:  It might even be an idea seen as your this hardened traveller to choose pubs nearer in geographical proximity to Anfield (just a thought like )
I would like to also add I have seen most of Europe in my time supporting Liverpool ,plus given my profession I have been fortunate to travel worldwide ,and it must be said I have visited places the length and breadth of Britain ... but and this is what appears to be the crux of our little debate "I have formed my opinion on the hateful bile that spews forth from the uneducated mouths of opposing fans " ...... not from forming an uneducated

I may have tinged my post in sarcasm ,but I don't think I was abusive where as yours my short sighted friend was ,I will end with something for your enquiring young mind to consider
Maybe its time you got your obviously well manicured hands and grazed your knuckles a wee bit ........ you never know you might develop a sympathy for the people who  have to fight for what they believe in "Instead of just biting your stiff upper lip "
Do us a favour save it for your wine and cheese parties 
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what will say is that sometimes you can be too close to the club to see the truth, that happend to me during the Graeme Souness years, I would not have a bad word said about him.

Some are doing the same with Rafa.

Sorry, Lakes, but there are clear differences between the two era's. You're wrong.
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Postby andy_g » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:35 pm

what the feck is he wrong about?? he's saying that during the souness years he wouldn't or couldn't hear anything bad said because he felt too close to the club? how can he be wrong about expressing a personal feeling? and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:58 pm

It would help to smooth discussion a bit if instead of highlighting the self-evident that "yesterday is clearly different to today", people at least sum up what those differences are and how they bear out the point you're attempting to make. Not all the time and not necessarily a full explanation, but more often than not and with enough substance to support your point and to enable your interlocutor a stab at forming a meaningful reply.
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Postby kazza » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:08 pm

andy_g wrote:and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.

Your wrong, it is a completely different area
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Postby dawson99 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:09 pm

kazza wrote:
andy_g wrote:and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.

Your wrong, it is a completely different area

It's you're wrong you useless gimp
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Postby andy_g » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:13 pm

kazza wrote:
andy_g wrote:and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.

Your wrong, it is a completely different area

i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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Postby Emerald Red » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:18 pm

andy_g wrote:what the feck is he wrong about?? he's saying that during the souness years he wouldn't or couldn't hear anything bad said because he felt too close to the club? how can he be wrong about expressing a personal feeling? and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.

He's wrong because what he's saying is that people like myself are blinkered and won't cast a bad word on the manager for purely sentimental reasons. There's a massive difference between Souness' time in charge and what he did to that of Rafa's. It's got nothing to do with being "too close" to the club.
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Postby Penguins » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:45 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
andy_g wrote:what the feck is he wrong about?? he's saying that during the souness years he wouldn't or couldn't hear anything bad said because he felt too close to the club? how can he be wrong about expressing a personal feeling? and what's it got to do with different eras?

i swear to god that some people don't even read a post before replying to it.

He's wrong because what he's saying is that people like myself are blinkered and won't cast a bad word on the manager for purely sentimental reasons. There's a massive difference between Souness' time in charge and what he did to that of Rafa's. It's got nothing to do with being "too close" to the club.

Spot on. Souness was a disaster, Rafa is the best we've had for 20 years.
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