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[Bam]

apart from the set-pieces that was our only genuine move through out the match

Besides the Benayoun volley, that is, but it's true that we really didn't create much from open play.  The only way we looked like scoring was a thumping header from Sami or that dodgy LB of theirs giving away a penalty for handling in the box.  Heart of a lion, that fella.

That bloke would do a better job in goal than Tottehams Gomez !

How many times did he hand ball it. 

[Rush Job]

Nay bother Rushie. I'm broadly in agreement with you here though, it's a question of hanging on in there till Torres comes back. In fairness we all knew that if we were to win it, Torres and Gerrard would need to be fit and firing so the other night wasn't so surprising. If we can get down to the last six matches still right in there I'll take that.

I still maintain that at some point we will hit top form, we've been absolutely nowhere near it yet. If we do and we're still close, I'm absolutely convinced we have it in us to win it. We'll have to finish above the Mancs though (though obviously we have to finish above everyone ) you mark my words.

Yes mate we have just got to do our best to stay on top or as close to as possible, 2/3 points between the top 2/3 with 6 to play would be great possition to be in.
I think people forget that no team has ever gone from 4th to 1st in the prem, just to be in it at the death would be an achievement but if we are I`ll be backing us.

[devaney]

Tonyeh - what did you say - "I simply cannot imagine that Chelsea, Utd or even today's Arsenal would have had that much possession and not at least got a goal against the hammers last night"

Well just take a look at the stats for the Chelsea v Newcastle game that was played on 22nd Nov this year - Chelsea had 33 shots and 9 on target - Newcastle had 2 shots and neither were on target. Try convincing me that Newcastle are any better than West Ham - you won't!  Chelsea also let things slip against Arsenal after leading 1-0. Chelsea's home record this season is also not very clever and if it continues it will not win them the league.

If ever there was a time to get behind our team it is now. The BOOING doesn't help. Cheering the team on when they are struggling does! The KOP made more noise about freeing Michael Shields than getting behind the team last night and the BOOS at the end - well shame on them they don't deserve to see the team win anything - THEY ARE NOT TRUE SUPPORTERS !!
It is a very many seasons since Liverpool have been top of the League and I fully appreciate that some of it hasn't been pretty. Surely that would suggest that we can get better? Listening to Ian St.John moaning that the board must give Rafa the funds that he needs in January to secure the title! Rafa has spent virtually the same as Ferguson over the last 4/5 years - circa £26m a year and that takes into account the players he has sold. Rafa has had massive support from the board since he came to Anfield - St.John and a few others need to stop whinging and appreciate what we have got. Rafa through some awful team selection got himself into a right mess during the early stages of last seasons Champions League. If we had gone out during the group stages I think he would only have himself to blame if he had been sacked. He is still learning. Look were we are now in the CL and the title race.Let's do our job and support them and leave them to do theirs. The team are under more pressure than they have been for a very long time - WE CAN HELP!

The difference is Chelsea looked like they were going to win. They created clear cut chance after clear cut chance. We have a couple of half chances. Thats about it.

I know it's frustrating but let's keep it real. Your so negative it is frightening. A new breed of supporter is emerging and it is ugly. Anfield used to be worth a goal but now it is full of moaners who don't get behind the team.

For the record at Anfield: Stoke we had 30 shots of which 6 were on target and Stoke had 2 and none were on target. Fulham we had 22 shots and 6 were on target and Fulham had 6 and 5 were on target. W.Ham we had 25 shots and 6 were on target and W.Ham had 7 shots and 2 were on target. Teams will inevitably make it very difficult for Liverpool at Anfield but you are blind if you think the same thing isn't happening to Chelsea. Chelsea's home record is a lot worse than Liverpool's this season and yet they still have to put up with supporters   like you moaning and whineing about anything and everything. TAKE A LOOK AT THE TABLE!

[tonyeh]

You see that article i posted Tony have a read . I think it was aimed at fans like you

How is it "aimed" at fans like me Nan?

Is it so bad to be critical of the team, that I can't point it out?

I thought this was a discussion forum. Were all things concerning Liverpool were to be discussed?

Or is criticism not allowed?

[tonyeh]

Undoubtedly true, mate, but tell me, how are we meant to take posters who suggest that:

-Rafa's a "fecking idiot" who's trying to stick it to the poor fans and should be bombed out in favour of Harry Redknapp

OR

-Rafa's a clown that should be sacked at this stage so we can get Kenny Dalglish in to salvage the season

OR

-There's only a Big Three in the Premiership and we're not part of it because of the gulf in class between us and Arsenal/Chelsea/Man U


When I read stuff like that it's hard not to conclude that the poster in question is completely blinkered or on a wind-up. 

Again, I ask, do you REALLY believe there isn't a class difference between Liverpool and the other three?

Honestly?

Big fuckin deal. So we got some lucky breaks with the goals in the Utd and Chelsea games...so what?

That still doesn't change the fact, yes THE FACT, that they are stronger teams than Liverpool. By a large margin.

In the case of the Chelsea game, Alonso go a LUCKY deflection.

That's DEFLECTION.

Liverpool then spent the rest of the game with two rows of four defending that lucky in off.

So Liverpool knocked Arsenal out of the CL, so what?

Spurs tore Liverpool a new a couple of weeks ago, does that make them a better team than Liverpool? Of course it doesn't.

The other three teams play better flowing football, they can attack and finish with convincing moves and they have put up a challenge for the title in the last few years.

If you cannot, or will not see the obvious difference in quality between the teams in question, then you you just shouldn't be talking about football at all.

Having a love for Liverpool is one thing, but if it obscures the obvious, then your opinion isn't worth listening too.

Liverpool are EXTREMELY lucky to be where they are at the moment. 90% of the games have been touch and go and the recent draws against the so called "Lesser Teams" is just reality landing down on our heads with a thump. Bar Everton and West Brom, we haven't really beaten anyone with real conviction and the includes the much touted Utd and Chelsea games.

We're on top by a single point, that's all. It's December.

Frankly, I'm not expecting much out of the Blackburn game and will take a boring 1-0 snorefest, just to keep the mickey mouse gap we have.

Are you really a Liverpool supporter?

Honestly?

Same question to you.

Is this not a Liverpool discussion board, or are discussions not actually allowed?

Can I not be critical of the team or the current situation?

[tonyeh]

Big fuckin deal. So we got some lucky breaks with the goals in the Utd and Chelsea games...so what?

That still doesn't change the fact, yes THE FACT, that they are stronger teams than Liverpool. By a large margin.

In the case of the Chelsea game, Alonso go a LUCKY deflection.

That's DEFLECTION.

Liverpool then spent the rest of the game with two rows of four defending that lucky in off.

So Liverpool knocked Arsenal out of the CL, so what?

Spurs tore Liverpool a new a couple of weeks ago, does that make them a better team than Liverpool? Of course it doesn't.

The other three teams play better flowing football, they can attack and finish with convincing moves and they have put up a challenge for the title in the last few years.

If you cannot, or will not see the obvious difference in quality between the teams in question, then you you just shouldn't be talking about football at all.

Having a love for Liverpool is one thing, but if it obscures the obvious, then your opinion isn't worth listening too.

Liverpool are EXTREMELY lucky to be where they are at the moment. 90% of the games have been touch and go and the recent draws against the so called "Lesser Teams" is just reality landing down on our heads with a thump. Bar Everton and West Brom, we haven't really beaten anyone with real conviction and the includes the much touted Utd and Chelsea games.

We're on top by a single point, that's all. It's December.

Frankly, I'm not expecting much out of the Blackburn game and will take a boring 1-0 snorefest, just to keep the mickey mouse gap we have.

what a supporter... (I wish there was a smilie clapping sarcastically like players do to refs)....

why don't you just join the boo boys in the stands...

I know mate, where are all these smelly kunts coming from?
We are top of the league, we have beat the mancs, chelsea and the bitters away and we havent had a fit/in-form Torres or IMO Gerrard for most of the season, are things really that bad?
Why is it our side and manager is getting more stick from there own "supporters" than the mancs and chelsea are from theres? And we`re fkin top.
Roll on fkin blackburn, these boards make me despair at times, how about just a little positivity, a little fkin support, come together and help the side though a blip instead of completely writing off our season because of a couple of dodgy results irrespective of the fact this is the best start we`ve had in years AND WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE.
If we are still top when Torres gets back then fkin game on I say.
This is a supporters forum, if all youve got to bring to the table is negativity and down right BS then why not do us a favour and fk off.

God, there are so many childish people on here.

I'm a "smelly Kunt" because I've said some critical things about the team and the situation? In fact, all I've said is the obvious.

Some people may not want to hear that, but there it is none the less.

Being a Liverpool fan doesn't mean I should exclude the obvious or any criticism.

Jesus, there really are some cowards on here, incapable of taking the rough with the smooth or even answering a post they don't agree with, with anything but insults.

Some of you are a disgrace.   

[supersub]

Can I not be critical of the team or the current situation?

Top of the League

It doesn't get any worse than that....

If we win the League Rafa should be sacked and the whole squad sold...

If we add the European Cup then Anfield needs to be levelled and the ground used for housing, the club resign from the Premier league and told to join the Zingari league   

[supersub]

On a lighter note....I wasn't best pleased with the result but hey things happen

[tonyeh]

Can I not be critical of the team or the current situation?

Top of the League

It doesn't get any worse than that....

If we win the League Rafa should be sacked and the whole squad sold...

If we add the European Cup then Anfield needs to be levelled and the ground used for housing, the club resign from the Premier league and told to join the Zingari league   

It's great being "top of the league", but it can and should be better.

We are a single point above Chelsea, we have fluffed the chances to pull away to a more comfortable position with three "easy" games.

We have a strong Utd catching up on us, with a game in hand.

Chelsea have a ridiculous goal difference that'll show us up if they draw level again.

Neither of those sides have the troubles up front we have, even if they have had their own blips of late.

We've shown that we still have a lot of problems breaking teams down, even with the lions share of possession.

With Torres out, our attacking options are very limited, in fact one could say they are nearly nil at the moment. One of them keeps getting taken out of the game on the hour, the other is dumped out onto the left side of midfield.

And even with Torres playing, we have had trouble getting goals. The service from midfield has been terrible, to say the least.

We have a weak fullback situation, with Dossena being particularly chronic.

At times, we have looked depressingly average and few of our games have been won in a convincing manner.

I'd like to see all of the above change and so do the rest of you.

[lakes10]

I just dont get some of you on this forum, we all love our club but we must not be so blind not to think that something is wrong, i am not talking about our owners.

If and members have seen any of our last 3 games they will know that our team has a problem.
it might be down to some bad buys or even about selling some players that should not have been sold.

I would like to ask some members this.

Do you think Rafa is doing his homework on teams like West Ham?

I know a lot of West Ham fans could not understand why we did not go wide the other night as they know they are weak there.

and this.

looking at whats happend in the prem this year with the top clubs (finding it hard to win some games) are big name players they way to go? are they more about the fame and money than winning?

[supersub]

I say stick around the end of the season is just over 5 months away

[Ciggy]

Rafa should not be blamed for the game against Fulham nor West ham, the players on the pitch let everyone down not the manager.

[metalhead]

I thought Gerrard got very frustrated, and as we have seen all too often before his body language lets everyone know it.

I have to say though, that instance where Kuyt opted to shoot from twenty yards out rather than play Gerrard through was a f.cuking dire decison considering the shot ws s.hit. If I was Gerrard I would of ran over to Kuyt and knocked him out.

lol, I remember that part, I broke the remote control of my t.v

now I have to buy a new one 

[Effes]

Cant say I totally agree Ciggy.

Rafa cant take all the blame, but as manager he has to take responsibility.

If we're gonna win the league we need to win those games. Remember last season?
We drew far too many at home, it fecked us.

After Stoke, Rafa should have got his thinking cap on big time.
After Fulham, he had to make sure it wasn't repeated.
The fans are getting too fukkin tense too and its affecting the players,
our players are Premiership virgins, they need to be treated gently

[metalhead]

By the way, this Lingua whats his face name that plays with them, what does he think he is playing? handball?! I counted over 5 handballs from him on monday night, and the ref just waved on!