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[D___C]

Our fixtures in the league are as follows, Everton, Stoke, QPR, Wigan, Newcastle, Blackburn, Fulham, West Brom, Norwich, Chelsea and then Swansea.

All matches are winnable as far as I am concerned and I cannot see why we can't have a strong finish to the season.

I think it is imperative that Kenny brings in a creative player in the center of midfield and a striker or two that can finish consistently.

Players like Michael Owen and Fernando Torres would have thrived this season because we create so many chances per match, we just lack the killer touch.

Most of those teams will look at us and think the same, winnable.

We have drawn at home to Norwich, Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn and Sunderland. Drawn away to Wigan and lost at Fulham, Sunderland, Bolton and Stoke.

To then list teams, most of whom have already got a result against us, i dont quite get.

Agree that the two players we lack are in central midfield and upfront, both must be addressed in the summer. Those two positions Kenny spent 55 million on with henderson and carroll.

[alwayslfc]

Our fixtures in the league are as follows, Everton, Stoke, QPR, Wigan, Newcastle, Blackburn, Fulham, West Brom, Norwich, Chelsea and then Swansea.

All matches are winnable as far as I am concerned and I cannot see why we can't have a strong finish to the season.

I think it is imperative that Kenny brings in a creative player in the center of midfield and a striker or two that can finish consistently.

Players like Michael Owen and Fernando Torres would have thrived this season because we create so many chances per match, we just lack the killer touch.

Most of those teams will look at us and think the same, winnable.

We have drawn at home to Norwich, Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn and Sunderland. Drawn away to Wigan and lost at Fulham, Sunderland, Bolton and Stoke.

To then list teams, most of whom have already got a result against us, i dont quite get.

Agree that the two players we lack are in central midfield and upfront, both must be addressed in the summer. Those two positions Kenny spent 55 million on with henderson and carroll.

Kenny's problem was that he signed too many expensive overpriced clowns in Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson. The biggest clowns being Adam and Carroll. A 35 million striker should be in the calibre of RVP or Rooney but how many league goals has he scored so far? Kenny should have waited till the summer to sign him at a cheaper price because he was not fit since Dec 2010. Also, was he outdated and obsolete since he hadn't managed in 10 years? Because why only buy British players? What about foreign potentials in Europe, Africa and S.America? Maybe his knowledge of football players was only confined within the British Isles due to lack of exposure to practical management. But anyway, no use crying over spilt milk.

If he is allowed to continue for another season, he must do another total revamp of the side. Our frontline is terrible, we are among the lowest scoring PL teams, our midfield is a joke (get rid of Adam, Downing, Spearing) but our defence is decent enough.

It really saddens me that his 2nd Coming is not going to be a success but more like an embarrassment. I just don't know why he cannot repeat his first term success here. Now with hindsight, he was needed to return in January '11 to get us out of the relegation zone but let someone else like Ancelotti to take over after that.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Our fixtures in the league are as follows, Everton, Stoke, QPR, Wigan, Newcastle, Blackburn, Fulham, West Brom, Norwich, Chelsea and then Swansea.

All matches are winnable as far as I am concerned and I cannot see why we can't have a strong finish to the season.

I think it is imperative that Kenny brings in a creative player in the center of midfield and a striker or two that can finish consistently.

Players like Michael Owen and Fernando Torres would have thrived this season because we create so many chances per match, we just lack the killer touch.

Most of those teams will look at us and think the same, winnable.

We have drawn at home to Norwich, Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn and Sunderland. Drawn away to Wigan and lost at Fulham, Sunderland, Bolton and Stoke.

To then list teams, most of whom have already got a result against us, i dont quite get.

Agree that the two players we lack are in central midfield and upfront, both must be addressed in the summer. Those two positions Kenny spent 55 million on with henderson and carroll.

Kenny's problem was that he signed too many expensive overpriced clowns in Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson. The biggest clowns being Adam and Carroll. A 35 million striker should be in the calibre of RVP or Rooney but how many league goals has he scored so far? Kenny should have waited till the summer to sign him at a cheaper price because he was not fit since Dec 2010. Also, was he outdated and obsolete since he hadn't managed in 10 years? Because why only buy British players? What about foreign potentials in Europe, Africa and S.America? Maybe his knowledge of football players was only confined within the British Isles due to lack of exposure to practical management. But anyway, no use crying over spilt milk.

If he is allowed to continue for another season, he must do another total revamp of the side. Our frontline is terrible, we are among the lowest scoring PL teams, our midfield is a joke (get rid of Adam, Downing, Spearing) but our defence is decent enough.

It really saddens me that his 2nd Coming is not going to be a success but more like an embarrassment. I just don't know why he cannot repeat his first term success here. Now with hindsight, he was needed to return in January '11 to get us out of the relegation zone but let someone else like Ancelotti to take over after that.

when we signed carroll kenny dalglish had only been back a matter of days, he arrived on the 8th of january and took up his job as caretaker manager, on the 31st of january we signed andy carroll.
do you honestly think that the owners gave a caretaker manager £50m quid to spend on whoever he wanted?
when they bought the club the owners went out of their way to speak to billy `moneyball` beane and ask him his advice on buying players based on stats, beane recommended comoli and the owners gave him the job of director of football, do fsg sound like owners who would just give a caretaker manager who had been in the job days £50m to spend on whoever he wanted?
by seeking beane`s advice they obviously had their own idea`s on player recruitment.
it might suit your anti dalglish agenda to blame kenny solely for the transfers but you know yourself that it`s not as cut and dry as that.

[fivecups]

Abso-freakin-loutely! And stop calling our places clowns, you eejit.

[Dalglish]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

This  leaves money spent on Downing, Henderson, Adam, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates. Enrique is a good shout for FC Player of the Season and Bellamy is loved by the vast majority of fans and cost us diddly squat. Downing has such a poor season he is a shoe in for England's EURO 2012 tournament, Henderson has undoubteadly struggled in an unfamiliar right wing position and Coates hasn't had enough of a run to judge. This leaves Adam who has come nowhere near his Blackpool form of last year and due to Lucas's lengthy injury has probably played a lot more games than his form deserves.

Our best player by a street ended up unavailable for months after being stitched up like a kipper by the FA, Gerrard returned from a serious injury only to suffer another and Lucas was ruled out for the season at a time when he was playing the best football of his career.

Despite having 30 plus MORE shots on goal than United over the duration of the season we have an appallling strike rate manging to hit the woodwork 23 times, miss 4 out of 5 penalties and witness some heroic Goalkeeping performances from the opposition.

Despite the apparrent "underachievement" of the manager we have won the Carling Cup, are in the last 8 of the FA Cup and have beaten Arsenal and Chelsea on their own turf. We have lost ONE game at home all season and this after battering the best footballing team in the League and should have beaten the 2 Manchester teams at Anfield this season and have the second best defence in the Prem.

Should Kenny Leave ?    Yeah, sack the incompetent fool !

[D___C]

when we signed carroll kenny dalglish had only been back a matter of days, he arrived on the 8th of january and took up his job as caretaker manager, on the 31st of january we signed andy carroll.
do you honestly think that the owners gave a caretaker manager £50m quid to spend on whoever he wanted?
when they bought the club the owners went out of their way to speak to billy `moneyball` beane and ask him his advice on buying players based on stats, beane recommended comoli and the owners gave him the job of director of football, do fsg sound like owners who would just give a caretaker manager who had been in the job days £50m to spend on whoever he wanted?
by seeking beane`s advice they obviously had their own idea`s on player recruitment.
it might suit your anti dalglish agenda to blame kenny solely for the transfers but you know yourself that it`s not as cut and dry as that.

I agree with you completely here..i just answered you in another thread which echoes your comment (i hadn't seen yours before i did).

The one thing i would say, as i stated in the other thread, Kenny too has to take some of the blame for signing Andy Carroll as he wouldnt manage a team with a player forced upon him, caretaker manager or not. For me Comolli is primarily culpable, with Kenny also sharing some responsibility.

Usually when you spend big money for a player, it shows a signal of intent, instills optimism in the fans, fear in the opposing fans, and stirs up excitement in the media. With Andy Carroll, the complete opposite occured, the signing bordered on embarrassing, showed a bizarre intent, instilled disbelief and bemusement in the fans, amusement amongst opposing fans, and total incredulity in the media. Whoevers idea the signing was, whether triggered by Mr Henry thinking spending big would show he meant business, Comolli flexing his muscle as director, or Kenny just accepting it without instigating it, it was a signing that has massively effected the club over a year on, and this cant spill into next season as well.

[maguskwt]

Don't think the owners are people who would tell Kenny ... "Here take this 35 million worth striker... He is young, strong, 6'2" and fast... Take it or leave it". At one point or another Kenny would've been consulted... And Kenny who likes target men like Shearer and Sutton probably agreed to the suggestion from someone...

[Boxscarf]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

I didn't know Roman Abramovich was our owner. Seriously, how do you know that Carroll wasn't Dalglish's signing? This is the first I've heard of it.

[Octsky]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

I didn't know Roman Abramovich was our owner. Seriously, how do you know that Carroll wasn't Dalglish's signing? This is the first I've heard of it.

just like i know Ancelotti didnt sign Torres.
as I and many mentioned before, there is little chance that Kenny who was an interim manager less a month in his
job signed a 35m Carroll. Baring in mind Comolli was here for a yr.
dont tell me Comolli do not had a list of players who he wanted to sign. then what was he doing for a yr? playing PS3 in his office?
get real, people.

[Boxscarf]

I wasn't dismissing what the other poster said, but then surely Comolli signed Suarez as well? How do we know if Kenny signed any of the players that have arrived since he has been a manager? How do we know if they were or weren't Comolli's signings? Does Kenny have any say in who well buy and sell? Who knows, I certainly don't.

[lakes10]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

This  leaves money spent on Downing, Henderson, Adam, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates. Enrique is a good shout for FC Player of the Season and Bellamy is loved by the vast majority of fans and cost us diddly squat. Downing has such a poor season he is a shoe in for England's EURO 2012 tournament, Henderson has undoubteadly struggled in an unfamiliar right wing position and Coates hasn't had enough of a run to judge. This leaves Adam who has come nowhere near his Blackpool form of last year and due to Lucas's lengthy injury has probably played a lot more games than his form deserves.

Our best player by a street ended up unavailable for months after being stitched up like a kipper by the FA, Gerrard returned from a serious injury only to suffer another and Lucas was ruled out for the season at a time when he was playing the best football of his career.

Despite having 30 plus MORE shots on goal than United over the duration of the season we have an appallling strike rate manging to hit the woodwork 23 times, miss 4 out of 5 penalties and witness some heroic Goalkeeping performances from the opposition.

Despite the apparrent "underachievement" of the manager we have won the Carling Cup, are in the last 8 of the FA Cup and have beaten Arsenal and Chelsea on their own turf. We have lost ONE game at home all season and this after battering the best footballing team in the League and should have beaten the 2 Manchester teams at Anfield this season and have the second best defence in the Prem.

Should Kenny Leave ?    Yeah, sack the incompetent fool !

Great post mate

 

[lakes10]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

I didn't know Roman Abramovich was our owner. Seriously, how do you know that Carroll wasn't Dalglish's signing? This is the first I've heard of it.

Kenny had only just got here, we had hours to go and needed a striker, we was always going to have to pay over the rate for any striker that late in the day.
Carroll on paper was a great buy and there lots of posts on this forum at that time saying he was a good player...post by members that now slag him off.
you dont just start being a bad player over night, we dont play in a way that brings the best out of him thats all...if he stays he will turn it around.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Every time I log onto this site and see this thread I shudder.

No doubt the club has fallen in stature over the years but elements of our support are out of touch.

[parchpea]

Footballers constantly fall from grace so its not uncommon to become a bad player over night.

The footy community constantly push the myth that good players never lose it but infact they do and regularly.

We took a hell of a punt on Carroll but its backfired on Dalglish unfortunately.

[Penguins]

I'm not buying this £100 million spent ***** !

Carroll wasn't the current managers purchase and anyone who believes he was are living on a different planet. Carroll was an ill judged reaction by FSG who wrongly believed LFC fans would be walking the streets around Anfield in protest over the selling of Torres.............

I didn't know Roman Abramovich was our owner. Seriously, how do you know that Carroll wasn't Dalglish's signing? This is the first I've heard of it.

Kenny had only just got here, we had hours to go and needed a striker, we was always going to have to pay over the rate for any striker that late in the day.
Carroll on paper was a great buy and there lots of posts on this forum at that time saying he was a good player...post by members that now slag him off.
you dont just start being a bad player over night, we dont play in a way that brings the best out of him thats all...if he stays he will turn it around.

Oh,ok. So then Suarez was definitely not Kenny's signing either then?
So then it is only Henderson, Downing, Adam as "his" biggest signins and no signing to even save his grace?